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Does Mount & Blade: Warband get any better?

anvi

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Does this game get better? I got betrayed by the Jarl asshole, built up an army, but then had to go to Norway so had to fire half my people. I meet a guy at the port who tells me I need to recover a book for him to tell me what to do. That requires sailing across an ocean. I also got a quest to escort some people that was ridiculously stupid.... they wouldn't keep up with me so I had to click the direction I was going, then backtrack for them to catch up, and repeat 100000 times to reach where I am going. WTF is this shit? Am I doing this wrong or does it get much better later on or something?
 

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As far as I can tell, best way to play this is to treat it like a "warlord simulator", just amass a decently sized army and just start fighting stuff and/or pillaging.
 

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I uninstalled already. I just don't get it. I think just building an army and killing everything would have been much more fun, but even that would get boring fast. Especially because I built up as an archer which is like... shooting an arrow and that's it.
 

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I uninstalled already. I just don't get it. I think just building an army and killing everything would have been much more fun, but even that would get boring fast. Especially because I built up as an archer which is like... shooting an arrow and that's it.

I agree it does get repetitive, but i think it's more about the fun of leading your army to battle, it's true that the game isn't very deep when it comes to tactics but it's always fun to play as a khergit and send your mounted archers to harrase the opposing army while you take them by suprise and flank them with your cavalry. It's little moments like these that make the game really fun.
 

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It also has really fun melee combat, you should give the game a second chance.
 

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You went into this game with wildly wrong expectations
Yeah I expected a decent game but I got a massively overhyped bag of crappy euro jank.

the fun part is waiting for the sequel

Isn't Warband already a sequel? It seems worse than ever. I played the original M&B when it was in some free beta or something about 20 years ago, and it was more fun than Warband. It didn't try to send you on a big quest in a gimpy low budget world. It just had you going into arenas and killing people. I quit because the part that had you travelling the world map and doing stuff seemed bad and under developed. I figured by now they would have turned that into something good but apparently that never happened. Some goofy quests, many are terribly made. Go find a bandit village, with zero directions, so you have to criss cross a big blank green area. Endless roaming groups of bandits that die seconds after showing up at your army. And trading from city to city. Really basic game... I expected a lot more from Warband which I think is already a sequel? I expect any more sequels will be crap.

Space Rangers is just like M&B, buy some shit at one city, click to travel to another city, sell shit for profit. Repeat until rich. And/or get missions to gank bandits. The difference is that Space Rangers does a FAR better job of the missions, and the combat is much more interesting too. I suspect the X series is the same but even bigger and better again.
 

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So you're playing a total conversion mod and unhappy because it's a bad mod? Did you try playing native?
 

barghwata

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Some goofy quests, many are terribly made.
Those quests only serve to get you some money at the start of the game and some reputation with lords, this isn't a game that focuses on quests or story, you're bashing the game for lacking something that the developpers never intended to put there in the first place, you're not judging the game for what it is you're judging it for what you want it to be.

Go find a bandit village, with zero directions.

You can just go to the Notes section of the game menu where all the villages and locations of the game are listed by name and you can click on the one you want to go to and the camera will move to where that location is.

so you have to criss cross a big blank green area. Endless roaming groups of bandits that die seconds after showing up at your army. And trading from city to city. Really basic game... I expected a lot more from Warband which I think is already a sequel? I expect any more sequels will be crap.

Space Rangers is just like M&B, buy some shit at one city, click to travel to another city, sell shit for profit. Repeat until rich

What?? there are several better ways to get money then just going around from city to city trading, you can join tournaments and bet on yourself, open buisnesses and more importantly take control of cities and collect the taxes, you speak like you only played the game for about an hour, did you participate in any war in your playthrough, did you gain control of any city whatsoever, did you become a lord, did you get married to any royal family to gain influece, did you gain indepedance and start waging war on other nations, in fact.......... did you even play the game really?
 

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So you're playing a total conversion mod and unhappy because it's a bad mod? Did you try playing native?
Is Warband not an official sequel? It is being sold like it is.

this isn't a game that focuses on quests or story,

?? there are several better ways to get money then just going around from city to city trading, you can join tournaments and bet on yourself, open buisnesses and more importantly take control of cities and collect the taxes, you speak like you only played the game for about an hour, did you participate in any war in your playthrough, did you gain control of any city whatsoever, did you become a lord, did you get married to any royal family to gain influece, did you gain indepedance and start waging war on other nations, in fact.......... did you even play the game really?

So what you are saying is that even though the game starts you on a long storyline, has a bunch of quests, and a bunch of things to trade.. ALL of that is shitty and pointless, and was never even intended to be in the game? And what I am supposed to do is somehow abandon the whole thing, start my own army on that first island, destroy relations and factions I know nothing about, and start capturing cities?

All for what? To just travel around the world to 50,000 towns and click attack, and watch the retarded benny hill combat play out? I can pew pew my bow or I don't even need to be involved. You just hire and army that is bigger than their army and you win. And then what? I marry some NPC and make money from the towns and my army grows from 50 to 500 to 5000 and I repeat the same shit capturing more cities? And if I want a break from the dumbshit combat in cities, I can join a tournament for some dumbshit combat in an arena?

Left click to stab your spear and right click to autoblock is not acceptable combat. And even if it was good, it is pushing it to expect me to do the same thing 100000 times to earn enough money for some ships so I can travel further and do more of the same thing.
 

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Does this game get better? I got betrayed by the Jarl asshole, built up an army, but then had to go to Norway so had to fire half my people. I meet a guy at the port who tells me I need to recover a book for him to tell me what to do. That requires sailing across an ocean. I also got a quest to escort some people that was ridiculously stupid.... they wouldn't keep up with me so I had to click the direction I was going, then backtrack for them to catch up, and repeat 100000 times to reach where I am going. WTF is this shit? Am I doing this wrong or does it get much better later on or something?
So you're playing a total conversion mod and unhappy because it's a bad mod? Did you try playing native?
Is Warband not an official sequel? It is being sold like it is.
You described details that aren't a part of unmodded Warband, like sailing across the ocean. I don't reckon you should base your opinion of the game on somebody's mod for the game.
 
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Are you playing that Viking Conquest expansion? Don't bother with the story campaign, just fuck around in sandbox (or better yet, native) and become king of everything.
 

anvi

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Are you playing that Viking Conquest expansion? Don't bother with the story campaign, just fuck around in sandbox (or better yet, native) and become king of everything.
I should have done that. But does that just involve fighting endlessly? It doesn't even seem like you can unlock any other types of fighting. It is just stabbing and blocking forever. And then you are king and rich, for what?
 

barghwata

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So what you are saying is that even though the game starts you on a long storyline

Ok, first of all there is no long storyline that the game starts you on what the hell are you talking about? quests are not the focus of the game at all, it's a sandbox, the quests are just there to help you get some money to get started.

I can pew pew my bow or I don't even need to be involved. You just hire and army that is bigger than their army and you win.

What the hell do you mean pew pew your bows and never get involved, did you know that you can actually give your soldiers orders and split them to different units and give each unit orders seperatly, did you know that each nation has its own army composition and play style that you have to account for on a tactical level, did you know that if you play strategically you can actually defeat bigger armies easily, it's not the game's fault if you don't know how it is even played.

And then what? I marry some NPC and make money from the towns and my army grows from 50 to 500 to 5000 and I repeat the same shit capturing more cities? And if I want a break from the dumbshit combat in cities, I can join a tournament for some dumbshit combat in an arena?

Yes, why are you complaining about a tactical war game having constant combat and expansion, that's literally the whole point of the game, if you want a reason for fighting go play a story driven game, which is weird because if i remember right, you're that guy who really hates stories in games and calls everyone who likes them story fags or something.
 

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It's a sandbox, dude, if you don't enjoy it that's fine. It's fun for a bit, but it does get boring after a while especially since the vanilla game technically doesn't have a win state and you can't actually kill off rival generals. Mods are where it's at, Prophesy of Pendor is pretty good and there's a metric shitton of other ones out there. Army composition matters more than you think, too, if you send 500 peasants/lowtier soldiers against a general with 50 hardened troops, ten to one the general will wipe them out.

Also that Jarl betraying you isn't an actual questline. If I recall correctly, that's just a bit of fluff because you likely picked the deposed noble background. The game doesn't really have any sort of big questline, it's just...you're a person in the world, what do you want to do, go and do it.
 

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