Incline Disco Elysium - The Final Cut - a hardboiled cop show isometric RPG

[the mole]

why would I need to make an alt to win arguments, my points stand for themselves, you were sold a 30 hour game as a 90 hour completionist game, that should be a red flag for you regardless of your enthusiasm for the game

also in a setting where you can collect bottles to sell as a hobocop, is it really that farfetched to allow the player to sleep outside and disregard the bill

so much for all the choices the game claimed to offer, and that's fine, just dont offer the gaming community the world then turn up short and look like a swindler

as a counterpoint to this the outer worlds will probably be 100 hours completionist run and you dont see obsidian claiming that it's groundbreaking and will change how rpgs function, they are actively downplaying it saying it's double aa, and I strongly believe they will show up with something at least the size of new vegas

 

[Butter]

why would I need to make an alt to win arguments, my points stand for themselves, you were sold a 30 hour game as a 90 hour completionist game, that should be a red flag for you regardless of your enthusiasm for the game

I agree with your second point, but this one is pure retardation. Every game dev in the history of games has failed miserably at estimating the completion time for his game. Remember when Cleve said Grimoire was a 600 hour experience?

 

[Mortmal]

How the fuck am I supposed to pass the Shiver check

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To find Ruby in the abandoned house? I checked the murial, and i need a crazy shiver check., I got 4 shiver.. and its 3 %??? fuck me.. help

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Explore the island. Be in tune with it. Do things on it

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I did all that shit, doesnt work, how much more do I seriousl need to do? I've done most stuff

Only way is booze as it adds to physical check, and stack clothes with + shiver....

 

[Verylittlefishes]

The mood is to dance all night to the tune in the hotel.

 

[the mole]

why would I need to make an alt to win arguments, my points stand for themselves, you were sold a 30 hour game as a 90 hour completionist game, that should be a red flag for you regardless of your enthusiasm for the game

I agree with your second point, but this one is pure retardation. Every game dev in the history of games has failed miserably at estimating the completion time for his game. Remember when Cleve said Grimoire was a 600 hour experience?

I didnt see obsidian lying about the length of new vegas, we played it ourselves and can contest that it was 100 hours, everyone says the game is 30 hours, and it is, the devs knew this and blew it up as the second coming of Christ when it's just a bunch of words

 

[tripedal]

I finally got to THAT shivers check,

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then it turned out to be useless because I immediately found a different entrance? Or do you only get to see that one by passing the check?

 

[vota DC]

Well, it is a great game, but a bit short at 20-30 hours - unless you want to replay with a different build and act like a crazy mofo.

20-30 hours are not so bad. And I thought that playing with different builds was supposed to provide completely different outcomes so replays are welcome etc

It's pretty bad for an RPG, but about average for a modern adventure game (sadly).

30 hours for an rpg are ok. Also in what world did adventure games average 30 hours, ever?

I can assure you that in the original case of the secret of Monkey Island it is written exactly 30 hours. I had trouble pulling totem nose.

 

[Tigranes]

I said before release that I don't believe ZA/UM's talk about play length. I haven't finished the game yet, but I still don't.

That said, the fixation with game length in general is moronic. Are you gonna buy it if it's 30 hours but not if it's 20 hours? Do you care about pacing and quality or just the biggest pile of whatever? Almost as pointless as "x million words".

 

[Harry Easter]

So, how is the story? Gripping? Makes sense or just weird to be weird?

 

[Tolias]

So I'm close to wrapping up the first day, however after we go to the balcony with Kim and start talking, if I use (2. How do you think today went?) the dialogue box disappears and I can only restart it by going in and clicking on my door again... is there some way to unfuck this?

 

[Parabalus]

There's at least two checks that you cannot pass, no matter what. Not even if you go bulgarian

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The bunker door and the shootout check I assume?

Couldn't pass

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Asking cindy for the brush. Check is 18, failed on a 19.

Rather unimportant though.

 

[fantadomat]

There's at least two checks that you cannot pass, no matter what. Not even if you go bulgarian

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The bunker door and the shootout check I assume?

Couldn't pass

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Asking cindy for the brush. Check is 18, failed on a 19.

Rather unimportant though.

Ahhh you get it if you fail lol.

 

[Parabalus]

How missable is the helmet?

I got the others on early d3, but no lead on this one.

 

[Jinx1337]

So, no one with the 'lack of skill point on level up' bug?

Welp, pasted my initial post on the TIG forums where the devs lurk just in case.
See you in another 11 years, folks.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

How missable is the helmet?

I got the others on early d3, but no lead on this one.

Is there any point to using that armor if you have high PHY? I'm guessing they all give bonuses to it and its related skills.

 

[fantadomat]

Fuck that tribunal is the worst part of the fucking game,really want beat the shit out of those faggots in zaum!!! It is bugged in more than one way,it is railroaded,it has not diplomacy way to pass through and on top of that the games goes full retard once you try to reload because it doesn't know if the scene is going on or is it the regular load of sprites. The whole shit is infuriating!!!

 

[HeatEXTEND]

The game really does remind me of Pathologic in some ways

Same here, but Pathologic charms me way more.

 

[Parabalus]

How missable is the helmet?

I got the others on early d3, but no lead on this one.

Is there any point to using that armor if you have high PHY? I'm guessing they all give bonuses to it and its related skills.

Psure none of these 3 give red bonuses.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

How missable is the helmet?

I got the others on early d3, but no lead on this one.

Is there any point to using that armor if you have high PHY? I'm guessing they all give bonuses to it and its related skills.

Psure none of these 3 give red bonuses.

What do they give though?

 

[Parabalus]

How missable is the helmet?

I got the others on early d3, but no lead on this one.

Is there any point to using that armor if you have high PHY? I'm guessing they all give bonuses to it and its related skills.

Psure none of these 3 give red bonuses.

What do they give though?

Gloves interface, boots composure and armor not 100% sure, I think authority.

 

[Strange Fellow]

How missable is the helmet?

I got the others on early d3, but no lead on this one.

Is there any point to using that armor if you have high PHY? I'm guessing they all give bonuses to it and its related skills.

Psure none of these 3 give red bonuses.

What do they give though?

Gloves interface, boots composure and armor not 100% sure, I think authority.

The cuirass gives +1 to Physical Instrument (and +1 to Volition, but -1 to Empathy), the boots actually lower Composure by 1, but give +2 to Authority.

 

[toro]

Fuck that tribunal is the worst part of the fucking game,really want beat the shit out of those faggots in zaum!!! It is bugged in more than one way,it is railroaded,it has not diplomacy way to pass through and on top of that the games goes full retard once you try to reload because it doesn't know if the scene is going on or is it the regular load of sprites. The whole shit is infuriating!!!

I just passed it.

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Kim is alive but 4 Hardies are dead.

 

[vota DC]

How the fuck am I supposed to pass the Shiver check

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To find Ruby in the abandoned house? I checked the murial, and i need a crazy shiver check., I got 4 shiver.. and its 3 %??? fuck me.. help

You can equip different clothes that raise shivers, at least +2 in the starting location.

 

[Silva]

How does this stack against Stygian in C&C factor alone? Are it's quests doable through myriad ways based on the different stats/skills you bring and choices you pick?

More subtly in comparison. Stygian follows the FO1 blueprint, whereas Disco Elysium's skills/character building more determine your internal monologue. This opens up different checks and different perspectives, some of which can majorly change the way you view characters and the story, but at the same time there is a degree of railroading and checks you need to pass to continue.

It's not pyrotechnic c and c, but I would say it is impactful in a different way from virtually any other roleplaying game. It reminds me a little of how that Call of Cthulhu game tried to adapt the pen and paper skills, where you can see different things in the environment and interact with the world in different ways, but much more fleshed out.

Cool. It's more Planescape then Fallouts/Arcanum then. I'll check it out, thanks.

 

[tripedal]

Fuck that tribunal is the worst part of the fucking game,really want beat the shit out of those faggots in zaum!!! It is bugged in more than one way,it is railroaded,it has not diplomacy way to pass through and on top of that the games goes full retard once you try to reload because it doesn't know if the scene is going on or is it the regular load of sprites. The whole shit is infuriating!!!

I was wondering about that, how railroaded is it exactly? Is there really no way to get out of it without any deaths?