Speaking of ambitious, the amount of effort and money that SirTech put into the voiceover and portrait animations for Jagged Alliance 2 and Wizardry 8 always impressed me.
This post caused me to create this topic. In that topic, people were saying that third-rate RPGs were "perfect", which is ridiculous. I don't even think Jagged Alliance 2 is perfect.
Masterpiece: A work of outstanding skill, mastery or workmanship.
Note how it says "a work". In other words, it isn't enough for an RPG to have great this or great that, but fail elsewhere. When taken as a whole, the RPG must equate to a masterpiece. Thus, Troika games are out despite my undying love for them.
There are not many masterpieces. Off-hand, and in no particular order:
- Fallout (PC)
- Deus Ex (PC)
- Jagged Alliance 2 (PC)
- Warband (PC)
- Diablo (PC)
- Darklands (PC)
- Wasteland (C=64)
- Captive (Amiga)
- Hired Guns (Amiga)
- Dungeon Master (Atari ST)
I can call any of these masterpieces with a straight face. There are others, of course, but that's what I can think of, off-hand.
So what, to your mind, are examples of genre masterpieces?
Roguey can watch.Day 8: After mating Lilura eats Darth Roxor.
...but I'm still gonna post.Absolutely ridiculous, definitely not going to read the rest of the thread.
Thats my favorite game. Dont know why i forgot about it.Forgot to add, Space Rangers 2 is a masterpiece too. Started replaying it again, still holds up really well.
The lesson developers seemingly learned from the success of Diablo 2 was that players just wanted to blitz through 200 trash mobs a minute.I'm thinking of playing Diablo 1+2 again. I have the CDs in the attic. Only played Diablo 1 once and Diablo 2 was too autistic for me (all the clicking). I suppose a persons standards lower somewhat over the years, and what was crap years ago is good by today's standards.
I looked at Diablo 3 on Youtube...but I don't get it.
Mostly MAME and a couple of Neo Geo emulators.
I'm thinking of playing Diablo 1+2 again. I have the CDs in the attic. Only played Diablo 1 once and Diablo 2 was too autistic for me (all the clicking). I suppose a persons standards lower somewhat over the years, and what was crap years ago is good by today's standards.
I looked at Diablo 3 on Youtube...but I don't get it.
Who are your favorite King of Fighters characters?
Wasn't really fond of the Neo Geo selection for the most part.
I cleared Drassen but couldn't get past the strategic management that was demanded of me at at that point https://rpgcodex.net/forums/index.p...-1-missions-content.93751/page-2#post-3450450 https://rpgcodex.net/forums/index.p...-the-test-of-time.120498/page-12#post-5611847 That's not a fault of the game's, it's on me. I don't like that kind of gameplay.Who cares, Roguey. All that matters to me at this point is, do you rate JA2 a masterpiece?
Well, do you?
Or, if you don't consider any RPG a masterpiece (which is fine), how do you rate it?
I note that it isn't in your top 5. Which makes me suspicious. I'd hate to have to put you in my iggy bin.
What about Robot Army, Nam 75, Metal Slug, Viewpoint, Alpha Mission II, ...
Indeed, masterpiece is differentiated from classics, flawed diamonds and "my favorites". We are trying to look at RPGs that approach flawless victories here. That I don't have Baldur's Gate or Troika's trio in there should have been a dead giveaway, since I hold them in high esteem and have vested interests in overrating them.
I cleared Drassen but couldn't get past the strategic management that was demanded of me at at that point https://rpgcodex.net/forums/index.p...-1-missions-content.93751/page-2#post-3450450 https://rpgcodex.net/forums/index.p...-the-test-of-time.120498/page-12#post-5611847 That's not a fault of the game's, it's on me. I don't like that kind of gameplay.
Indeed, masterpiece is differentiated from classics, flawed diamonds and "my favorites". We are trying to look at RPGs that approach flawless victories here. That I don't have Baldur's Gate or Troika's trio in there should have been a dead giveaway, since I hold them in high esteem and have vested interests in overrating them.
Okay, high bar.
As the self-elected representative of modern RPGs, the picks are:
>Dark Souls
>Dark Souls 3
And since you didn't specify CRPGs...
>Bloodborne
From Software is the only company in the last 20 years to fire on all cylinders. This reflects Western civilization teetering on a knife's edge.
You're a psychopath.Indeed, masterpiece is differentiated from classics, flawed diamonds and "my favorites". We are trying to look at RPGs that approach flawless victories here. That I don't have Baldur's Gate or Troika's trio in there should have been a dead giveaway, since I hold them in high esteem and have vested interests in overrating them.
Okay, high bar.
As the self-elected representative of modern RPGs, the picks are:
>Dark Souls
>Dark Souls 3
And since you didn't specify CRPGs...
>Bloodborne
From Software is the only company in the last 20 years to fire on all cylinders. This reflects Western civilization teetering on a knife's edge.
call me crazy but i don't think a tide of overwhelmingly mediocre computer games is objective proof of the collapse of western civilization or whatever