The PS5 and Xbox 2 thread - it's happening

[sullynathan]

Arkham knight looks mostly as good as that demo. Horizon and Breath of the Wild look better than that too, and they're all full open world games, not a vertical slice.

 

[Pegultagol]

I wonder if the first party will aim for current level of fidelity possible on PS4 Pro but 4K and 60fps plus HDR. At least for the first few years. I'd be somewhat more interested if backward compatible games getting the 4K treatment.

 

[sullynathan]

I wonder if the first party will aim for current level of fidelity possible on PS4 Pro but 4K and 60fps plus HDR. At least for the first few years. I'd be somewhat more interested if backward compatible games getting the 4K treatment.

Microsoft is very clearly going to do the latter quickly since they've already done so for a large amount of Xbox 360 and a few original Xbox games. Since this tech demo was 1440p 30 fps, I wager Sony especially will not mandate or push for 60 fps. Microsoft wil llikely not have all titles at 60fps either but they will probably push it more with 4K for marketing purposes like they've done at the tail end of this gen.

 

[DalekFlay]

Even most of the "4k" games on Xbox One X are either 30fps or reconstructed from a lower resolution in some fashion. True native 4k at 60fps is extremely hard to achieve, even on a good PC. I doubt that changes for a long time, especially with them pushing ray tracing and shit. This UE5 demo being 1440p and 30fps says a lot about where it's all headed.

 

[Wirdschowerdn]

 

[Wirdschowerdn]

Understandable. These are not fun times.... but there's still Command & Conquer coming out this week!!

 

[DJOGamer PT]

Sony is pretty much giving permission to be robbed.

I guess I'll get a PS5 and Bloodborne this year...

Kek.
Nintendo is the only one with enough sense not to get involded in this clusterfuck.
Based Japs.

 

[DalekFlay]

The "go ahead and loot, we're sorry" thing is probably the current apex of white guilt, but I'm sure there's a long way to go.

 

[Wunderbar]

Understandable. These are not fun times....

they just don't want to get overshadowed in the media.

 

[Wirdschowerdn]

The "go ahead and loot, we're sorry" thing is probably the current apex of white guilt, but I'm sure there's a long way to go.

You know you dummy that this isn't about looting, but about the systematic tyrannizing of poor people by American tax-payer funded thugs?

Going ahead and celebrating games and fun and shit in the face of all of this would be a bit tasteless and callous, to say at least. But Sony doesn't have anything to lose here anyways, as their symbolic act of solidarity (genuine or as a heinous marketing charade) will only end up selling them more PS5's.

 

[Irata]

Since they care about human rights have they moved their factories to Taiwan yet or are they still debating it? Did they post in support of those kids in Hong Kong? I'm going to laugh if Trump puts new tariffs in place right before these things launch.

 

[DalekFlay]

You know you dummy that this isn't about looting, but about the systematic tyrannizing of poor people by American tax-payer funded thugs?

You can protest that without looting small businesses owned by minorities, destroying your own neighborhoods and beating the shit out of old ladies trying to protect their stores. I'm fine with the real protests and companies supporting those, but the Sony statement directly supports property destruction and looting. That's retarded.

 

[Markman]

Just a marketing move. They want to maximize outreach but they cant now cause of 'muricans going bat shit crazy and taking all the headlines.

Both consoles should be out by november anyway.

Btw, question for you Sony fags not related to riots.

How important is back compatibility to you?

They still keep their lips shut about it but its a big issue I got when compared to Xbox versions where even now I get enhanced versions of games.

For someone that didnt buy a game on a disc for atleast 15 years I wonder what will happen with 80+ games I got on my Sony account and how will they work and transfer to a new console. I'd like to keep my library and ditch the old PS4. But if I get a PS5 and install lets say God of War and it still runs at 1080/30 it just makes it worthless getting cause at release there gonna be like 2 games worth playing.

 

[ricolikesrice]

they should bundle the PS5 with a free 6 months subscription to blacked.com - finally all those pathetic white guilt cucks can see their imaginary girlfriend "take a knee" for a good cause in premium quality.

#icantbreathe taken on a whole new level

 

[Citizen]

#icantbreathe taken on a whole new level

#icantbreate? more like #icantget60fps

 

[Tehdagah]

Rioting and looting will magically save the life of drug addicts and criminals in the future.

 

[Black Plague]

Soy will probably announce soon how they'll color the Playstation 5 black.

 

[DalekFlay]

I'd like to keep my library and ditch the old PS4. But if I get a PS5 and install lets say God of War and it still runs at 1080/30 it just makes it worthless getting cause at release there gonna be like 2 games worth playing.

Did the Xbox backwards compatibility change framerate? I was under the impression they jury-rigged resolution increases, but didn't change other things like shadow settings and framerate. I'm a PC only guy, so I dunno.

 

[Markman]

One X got alot of games with selection of 1080/60 or 4k/30. Thats mostly for One titles, cant think of 360 titles that got that besides higher res, like AC, RDR run in 4k. But plus add in more stable framerates and faster loading times but those are given cause its much better hardware.
That shit will get even better with new X.

Feel like Sony could update atleast its first party titles like MS does for their system, but got a feeling they might want to double dip and charge extra 30-40 bucks for "remastered" editions while the previous owners will be stuck on "legacy" mode.

 

[DalekFlay]

One X got alot of games with selection of 1080/60 or 4k/30. Thats mostly for One titles, cant think of 360 titles that got that besides higher res, like AC, RDR run in 4k. But plus add in more stable framerates and faster loading times but those are given cause its much better hardware.
That shit will get even better with new X.

More stable makes sense, but my point was I think altering the framerate takes a lot more work. Not sure I'd expect that from the Series X backwards compat.

 

[AwesomeButton]

Sadly only graphics on consoles are compared, but I guess there is no way around that at the moment

 

[AwesomeButton]

This is about 2 months old, but illustrative of what you get from raytracing:

 

[Jrpgfan]

Could it be we're witnessing for the first time a console surpassing PCs in terms of hardware?

 

[Grauken]

Could it be we're witnessing for the first time a console surpassing PCs in terms of hardware?

For how long though

 

[Jrpgfan]

That guy said 5-6 years. That's a lot of time.

I'm not a dev/programmer myself so I can't make in-depth commentaries, but I'm seeing a lot of devs talking about how PS5's architeture and SSD are a big step forward in the industry as a whole, technologically speaking.

One good thing out of this that is certain though, is that nvme PCI-e SSDs prices are gonna drop. I'm myself holding until some time after PS5 launches to get a top one with higher storage space. The prices for even the lower-end ones are insane right now where I live.