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Decline The logical positive progression of combat mechanics and why BG3 will be a step back for the boulder

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At first they couldn't make real time game so they've made turn based games.

Then full real time wasn't possible yet so they've made half-real time, that is real time with pause. Ever since they've stopped making these games as well, since Dragon Age 2 and Diablo showed them that you can make real time games all along.

Now BG3 is TB, which means it's stepping out of the natural, logically positive evolution of combat mechanics therefore it is only nostalgia fodder with no redeeming qualities. The Boulders Gayte series is obviously gonna be destroyed by this.
 

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At first they couldn't make real time game so they've made turn based games.
What do you mean? Why couldn't they?
Then full real time wasn't possible yet so they've made half-real time, that is real time with pause. Ever since they've stopped making these games as well, since Dragon Age 2 and Diablo showed them that you can make real time games all along.
What do you mean by "full real time wasn't possible"? When was it not possible? Why?

I clicked on this thread full of certainties and answers and now all I have are questions.
 
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Yeah and they were shit so they've stepped back, looked at them and started making turn based games as they've realised that it's the logically positivist idea that real time is the final form of games, however the progression through turn based and real time with pause is necessary.
 

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At first they couldn't make real time game so they've made turn based games.

Then full real time wasn't possible yet so they've made half-real time, that is real time with pause. Ever since they've stopped making these games as well, since Dragon Age 2 and Diablo showed them that you can make real time games all along.

Now BG3 is TB, which means it's stepping out of the natural, logically positive evolution of combat mechanics therefore it is only nostalgia fodder with no redeeming qualities. The Boulders Gayte series is obviously gonna be destroyed by this.
I see your title is well deserved.
 
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At first they couldn't make real time game so they've made turn based games.

Then full real time wasn't possible yet so they've made half-real time, that is real time with pause. Ever since they've stopped making these games as well, since Dragon Age 2 and Diablo showed them that you can make real time games all along.

Now BG3 is TB, which means it's stepping out of the natural, logically positive evolution of combat mechanics therefore it is only nostalgia fodder with no redeeming qualities. The Boulders Gayte series is obviously gonna be destroyed by this.

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where did this "turn-based games was made because they couldn't make real time games" meme started?
 

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This idea that somehow real time mechanics are the 'logical positive progression' that games should go through as opposed to the supposdley "archaic" TB mechanics is so fucking dumb...... i mean..... would chess be a better game if it was real time???

JA2 for example probably has the best combat system in an RPG, much better then most real time RPGs despite being turn based, a combat system being real time doesn't make it inherently better, that's only something that exists in your imagination.
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What's the next logical positive step after full real time?
 

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What is "logical" is that people have different tastes and games will continue to be made to serve different niches of the market. The idea that games all have to move towards one set of specific design principles is as idiotic as claiming that all music is naturally evolving towards one genre.
 

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Video games have been real time since the beginning. When brainlets buy into a meme so hard they can no longer discern reality.
 
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I have my own reservations towards BG 3 but, mechanically speaking, its 1) turn based, 2) isometric, and 3) party based, so you cannot say its a step back. Additionally the verticality stuff is good and feels like wargaming on a terrain.
 

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At first they couldn't make real time game so they've made turn based games.

Then full real time wasn't possible yet so they've made half-real time, that is real time with pause. Ever since they've stopped making these games as well, since Dragon Age 2 and Diablo showed them that you can make real time games all along.

Now BG3 is TB, which means it's stepping out of the natural, logically positive evolution of combat mechanics therefore it is only nostalgia fodder with no redeeming qualities. The Boulders Gayte series is obviously gonna be destroyed by this.





Do you want to play an RPG, or try so hard to pretend you're not playing a game? Why don't you just go outside?
 

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the logically positivist idea that real time is the final form

This is true, but then can the concept of time be considered from a positivist perpsective. Can it be real or has it to be a purely transcendantal entity, constructed entirely as an abstract.

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At first they couldn't make real time game so they've made turn based games.

Then full real time wasn't possible yet so they've made half-real time, that is real time with pause. Ever since they've stopped making these games as well, since Dragon Age 2 and Diablo showed them that you can make real time games all along.

Now BG3 is TB, which means it's stepping out of the natural, logically positive evolution of combat mechanics therefore it is only nostalgia fodder with no redeeming qualities. The Boulders Gayte series is obviously gonna be destroyed by this.

It's a step forward, a chance to fix a huge, mistake.
 

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At first they couldn't make real time game so they've made turn based games.

Then full real time wasn't possible yet so they've made half-real time, that is real time with pause. Ever since they've stopped making these games as well, since Dragon Age 2 and Diablo showed them that you can make real time games all along.

Now BG3 is TB, which means it's stepping out of the natural, logically positive evolution of combat mechanics therefore it is only nostalgia fodder with no redeeming qualities. The Boulders Gayte series is obviously gonna be destroyed by this.

It's going to make a fortune, uplift the BG series to unseen heights and correct the original mistake of the BG series. It already eclipses the originals in every way.

They got Google to pay for the most of the game (or at least a lot of it), in exchange for porting it to Stadia right away and adding Stadia features, because Google is, desperate for a game that actually works properly on it's platform at lower speeds internet speeds and will be popular enough to revive Stadia. Google when the time comes is going to spend a lot of money on BG3, like they did when it was first announced, all free advertising for Larian Studios.

So I predict they will do a BG4 sequel.
 

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