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SWITCH emulation thread - YUZU gets huge performance update

HoboForEternity

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Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag.
Same.

Smt v is a vaporware, but


Buuuut


Hoping for etrian odyssey 6 or oe untold 3 for switchy.

Pls
 
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With Yuzu multicore support I was finally able to run SMO 60 fps on Vulkan.

Then, I tried to compare how the same game will run on Ryujinx and it's incomparably slower and glitchy.

Why wasting efforts on inferior emulator instead of joining forces? Or maybe there are some advantages of Ryujing over Yuzu?
 
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Actually answer for that is very easy.

Switch uses Tegra soc from nvidia. Which has complete documentation from A to Z on how it runs.
The only unknown part was actual OS of switch and how it works.

Hackers broke switch security literally by reading pdf of tegra where engineers wrote something akin of "if you want to hack into this thing you should do this" lol.

So one the got OS from switch they just need to make emulator and implement everything.

Most of the time, hardest part of making emulator is figuring out how something works because usually there is no documentation especially on parts that contain security and so on. This is why Xbox emulation for such long time was no starter. Because there was no any kind of documentation and people had to reverse engineer every method, every class and so on.

Tegra being just cut standard pc gpu + arm cpu is also helping. Graphics side of implementation should be easy with Tegra doc and architecture which is present in today computers as standard.
nobody made xbox emulators because there were no games worth emulating
nearly two years later, nobody has provided an example of a single xbox game worth emulating.
 

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Actually answer for that is very easy.

Switch uses Tegra soc from nvidia. Which has complete documentation from A to Z on how it runs.
The only unknown part was actual OS of switch and how it works.

Hackers broke switch security literally by reading pdf of tegra where engineers wrote something akin of "if you want to hack into this thing you should do this" lol.

So one the got OS from switch they just need to make emulator and implement everything.

Most of the time, hardest part of making emulator is figuring out how something works because usually there is no documentation especially on parts that contain security and so on. This is why Xbox emulation for such long time was no starter. Because there was no any kind of documentation and people had to reverse engineer every method, every class and so on.

Tegra being just cut standard pc gpu + arm cpu is also helping. Graphics side of implementation should be easy with Tegra doc and architecture which is present in today computers as standard.
nobody made xbox emulators because there were no games worth emulating
nearly two years later, nobody has provided an example of a single xbox game worth emulating.

Lost Odyssey?
 
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Codex Year of the Donut
Actually answer for that is very easy.

Switch uses Tegra soc from nvidia. Which has complete documentation from A to Z on how it runs.
The only unknown part was actual OS of switch and how it works.

Hackers broke switch security literally by reading pdf of tegra where engineers wrote something akin of "if you want to hack into this thing you should do this" lol.

So one the got OS from switch they just need to make emulator and implement everything.

Most of the time, hardest part of making emulator is figuring out how something works because usually there is no documentation especially on parts that contain security and so on. This is why Xbox emulation for such long time was no starter. Because there was no any kind of documentation and people had to reverse engineer every method, every class and so on.

Tegra being just cut standard pc gpu + arm cpu is also helping. Graphics side of implementation should be easy with Tegra doc and architecture which is present in today computers as standard.
nobody made xbox emulators because there were no games worth emulating
nearly two years later, nobody has provided an example of a single xbox game worth emulating.

Lost Odyssey?
That's an xbox 360 game

nearly two years later, nobody has provided an example of a single xbox game worth emulating.
id emulate splinter cell double agent if i could, ive always wanted to try the ubi montreal version (the pc one was dogshit)
That version got released on the PS2 and gamecube, re-released on the Wii.
 

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Not exactly.
While Sigma has alot of new shit and some quality of life improvements, it also takes away some things most notably it replaces the puzzles for combat arenas and it's not quite as unforgiving as Black.
I do prefer Sigma at the end of the day but Black is also a valid version to play.
Sigma 2 is shit though.

EDIT: but yeah other than NG the xbox has nothing (unless you didn't have a PC back then)
 

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I prefer Ninja Gaiden Black, but Sigma is a great game also. Rachel chapters are bad and harm the pace, and I like the puzzle sections in NGB giving you a break between the action. It's the best action adventure game ever made.

Sigma 2 is no shit. It is a fantastic action game. Of course NG2 is better with the cathartic amount of blood, enemies and them having less HP.

Just port Everything to PC please. Even NG3 Razor's edge is decent.

Very sad that Team Ninja abandoned the franchise for Nioh. Maybe with Nioh success they recovered the confidence to make a NG game.
 

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Xbox has fucking Jet Set Radio Future you imbeciles.
 

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Xbox has fucking Jet Set Radio Future you imbeciles.

Meh

Very sad that Team Ninja abandoned the franchise for Nioh.

Not sad at all.
Nioh has one of the best high-commitmentcombat systems ever made and the team needed a break from Ryu.
They have been doing mostly NG for the last decade and honestly ever since NGS that the series was getting worse. NG2 might improved the gameplay but it's levels were a meme.


Anyway both the OG X-Box and the 360 have nice emulators being developed for them.
It's imo a curious case really. Since the XBox hardware is closer to that of a PC shouldn't emulation for it be easier than other consoles?
 
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It's 2020 and some people still believe in superstitions like Xbox lacked good exlusives...

Magatama?
Otogi?
Otogi 2?
Panzer Dragoon Orta?
Shin Megami Tensei: Nine?
Metal Dungeon?
Metal Wolf Chaos?
Gunvalkyrie?
Conker: Live and Reloaded?
Forza Motorsport?
Dead or Alive 3?
Jet Set Radio Future?
Quantum Redshift?
Unreal Championship?
Unreal Championship 2?
Phantom Dust?
Kingdom Under Fire: Heroes?
Kingdom Under Fire: Crusaders?
 
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After intense testing of Yuzu there are few conclusions for AMD graphic card users:

Vulkan + Win10 - best performance, low stability
OpenGL + Win10 - terrible performance, ok stability
Vulkan + Linux - everything that isn't some extremely low-demanding stuff (e.g. Golf Story, Puyo Puyo Tetris) won't even start
OpelGL + Linux - medium performacne, ok stability

If only they eliminate crash rate on WinVulkan... or support Vulkon on Linux little more... but it's only a matter of time I guess.

Anyway,with high-end PC and NVidia card, there's propably no point in buying Switch anymore unless someone cares about portability.
 

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