Best way to play Baldur's Gate

[Zboj Lamignat]

Unneeded, casual feature.

Yeah, quick loot is casual af. In case of IWD it probably makes playthrough like 10h shorter.

Makes game too easy. 6 Sorcerers.

If you're suffering from from everyone's favorite complete developmental disorder then everything will make the game too easy. If you're not, then it can make game harder or even, god forbid and save us all, more fun. Plus, it's a moot point, creating a full party was always an option.

 

[Lilura]

Yeah, quick loot is casual af. In case of IWD it probably makes playthrough like 10h shorter.

Only if you're the kind of idiot that compulsively needs to pick up everything.

If you're suffering from from everyone's favorite complete developmental disorder then everything will make the game too easy. If you're not, then it can make game harder or even, god forbid and save us all, more fun.

For the vast majority of players, full party creation makes the game easier. BG has long tradition of power-gaming, not the opposite. I don't like built in degenerate features that make the game easier, even if they're optional. These include party arbitration, Max HPs on level up and 100% spell scribing.

 

[Joseph Stalin]

Yeah, quick loot is casual af. In case of IWD it probably makes playthrough like 10h shorter.

Only if you're the kind of idiot that compulsively needs to pick up everything.

If you're suffering from from everyone's favorite complete developmental disorder then everything will make the game too easy. If you're not, then it can make game harder or even, god forbid and save us all, more fun.

For the vast majority of players, full party creation makes the game easier. BG has long tradition of power-gaming, not the opposite. I don't like built in degenerate features that make the game easier, even if they're optional. These include party arbitration, Max HPs on level up, 100% spell scribing and Max HPs on level up.

At least I know you're an EE shill and a degenerate now.

So you're in favour of removing the Fighter class as a playable option in BG? Since it's basically Easy Mode as compared to most others? So it's an in-built degenerate feature?

Pretending that the IE games, or any other RPG games at the time, were in any way, shape or form balanced. Give me a break. The intellectual dishonesty on display here is almost pitiable.

 

[Generic-Giant-Spider]

You know how you're encouraged to buy games to show support to the developers and want them to make more in the future?

Well Beamdog is very unique because you're paying money to a game development studio that does not actually make games. LOL

 

[Zboj Lamignat]

Yeah, what kind of idiot would like to pick up loot in crpgs, especially the casual way

For the vast majority of players, full party creation makes the game easier. BG has long tradition of power-gaming, not the opposite. I don't like built in degenerate features that make the game easier, even if they're optional. These include party arbitration, Max HPs on level up and 100% spell scribing.

Seems you are an EE shill, too.

BG is a simplistic, accessible crpg with extremely basic char building. Long tradition of powergaming, lol. And what are you even talking about, that stuff was all optional/toggle in the original as well.

 

[Lilura]

[Max HPs on lvl up, 100% spell scribing] ... And what are you even talking about, that stuff was all optional/toggle in original as well.

Quoting this before you delete it. Proves you never played original BG.

 

[Zboj Lamignat]

Well, yeah, I'm talking BG2 all the time. Don't give much shit about BG1.

 

[Joseph Stalin]

You know how you're encouraged to buy games to show support to the developers and want them to make more in the future?

Well Beamdog is very unique because you're paying money to a game development studio that does not actually make games. LOL

Torrminatorr.com

 

[ScrotumBroth]

Well, yeah, I'm talking BG2 all the time. Don't give much shit about BG1.

Fuck's wrong witchu, boah?

 

[Joseph Stalin]

Honest, un-ironic question to Codexers here - is Lilura mentally ill? The way he keeps repeating the same points, year after year, over and over, whilst ignoring any arguments to the contrary, seems really odd. It's similar to people suffering from autism - the real one, not the meme.

EDIT: I'm asking not out of malice. If it's true and he is mentally handicapped, I will make an effort to be kinder to him. Being an asshole towards other assholes vs getting into arguments with people who can't control their faculties are two different things.

 

[Zboj Lamignat]

Fuck's wrong witchu, boah?

Nothing, I hope. I like BG2 and IWD. Think PST is great experience for one "play"through. Found BG1 and IWD2 mostly not all that and skippable in hindsight.

 

[Joseph Stalin]

Fuck's wrong witchu, boah?

Nothing, I hope. I like BG2 and IWD. Think PST is great experience for one "play"through. Found BG1 and IWD2 mostly not all that and skippable in hindsight.

Icewind Dale II suffers from a big case of cut content. It's the only IE game I was actively hoping would get the EE treatment, since maybe then Beamdog would be able to restore it. As far as I remember when talking to Josh, halfway through the game you could completely change sides. Several areas were completely cut, as did a lot of quests and reactivity.

 

[Lilura]

I like BG2 and IWD. Think PST is great experience for one "play"through. Found BG1 and IWD2 mostly not all that and skippable in hindsight.

BG is the greatest D&D-based RPG ever made, and the 4th greatest RPG of all-time. IWD2 is about equal to IWD, though it depends on the rating criteria.

 

[janjetina]

The only winning move is not to play.

 

[Thac0]

Honest, un-ironic question to Codexers here - is Lilura mentally ill? The way he keeps repeating the same points, year after year, over and over, whilst ignoring any arguments to the contrary, seems really odd. It's similar to people suffering from autism - the real one, not the meme.

EDIT: I'm asking not out of malice. If it's true and he is mentally handicapped, I will make an effort to be kinder to him. Being an asshole towards other assholes vs getting into arguments with people who can't control their faculties are two different things.

Very likely somewhat higher on the Asperger spectrum than the average codexer, and nothing else, wether you consider that mentally handicapped is a political question.

 

[Joseph Stalin]

Honest, un-ironic question to Codexers here - is Lilura mentally ill? The way he keeps repeating the same points, year after year, over and over, whilst ignoring any arguments to the contrary, seems really odd. It's similar to people suffering from autism - the real one, not the meme.

EDIT: I'm asking not out of malice. If it's true and he is mentally handicapped, I will make an effort to be kinder to him. Being an asshole towards other assholes vs getting into arguments with people who can't control their faculties are two different things.

Very likely somewhat higher on the Asperger spectrum than the average codexer, and nothing else, wether you consider that mentally handicapped is a political question.

I'm leaning towards autism more, since over the years I've noticed that all his arguments are rote - he repeats the same things, over and over, and those things are barely arguments - just "X is <insert adjective>, if you believe that X is Y, you are <insert adjective>". It's like a broken mind that has memorised some phrases, and holds onto them for dear life as responses to anything and everything.

And if he encounters something that doesn't fit his schematics, he pretends it doesn't exist.

 

[Generic-Giant-Spider]

Honest, un-ironic question to Codexers here - is Lilura mentally ill? The way he keeps repeating the same points, year after year, over and over, whilst ignoring any arguments to the contrary, seems really odd. It's similar to people suffering from autism - the real one, not the meme.

Lilura is a really good poster and has great knowledge on CRPGs from the '90s-mid 2000s as THE BLOG can attest to. Even if I fucking hated Lilura I couldn't deny that the blog is an insanely great read through if you've ever loved the "Renaissance era" of RPGs.

https://lilura1.blogspot.com/2020/07/Is-Neverwinter-Nights-1-or-2-better.html

Lilura also holds the same thought I do about NWN1 vs. NWN2 and that is NWN1 > NWN2 due to the sheer strength of the fan created modules over the years. I said it in another topic, NWN2 would've been great under a different name since it focused much more on delivering a good OC while the creation aspect NWN was heavily promoted on fell by the wayside and NWN2 ultimately suffered due to it.

 

[Thal]

BG:EE fucks up the experience by using BG2s classes, spells and weapon proficiency system, despite the fact that BG1 was designed and balanced for its own system. This reason alone is enough to favour the original. For the ultimate experience, don't save scum. The game is designed this approach in mind as well, which makes trash mobs, waylays, rest spawns and traps meaningful.

 

[Joseph Stalin]

Honest, un-ironic question to Codexers here - is Lilura mentally ill? The way he keeps repeating the same points, year after year, over and over, whilst ignoring any arguments to the contrary, seems really odd. It's similar to people suffering from autism - the real one, not the meme.

Lilura is a really good poster and has great knowledge on CRPGs from the '90s-mid 2000s as THE BLOG can attest to. Even if I fucking hated Lilura I couldn't deny that the blog is an insanely great read through if you've ever loved the "Renaissance era" of RPGs.

https://lilura1.blogspot.com/2020/07/Is-Neverwinter-Nights-1-or-2-better.html

Lilura also holds the same thought I do about NWN1 vs. NWN2 and that is NWN1 > NWN2 due to the sheer strength of the fan created modules over the years. I said it in another topic, NWN2 would've been great under a different name since it focused much more on delivering a good OC while the creation aspect NWN was heavily promoted on fell by the wayside and NWN2 ultimately suffered due to it.

I'm not denying knowledge or lack thereof, but the behaviour I've observed over the years leads me to believe he is mentally unsound. See my observations above. I'm not the nicest person on the planet, but I'd hate to go against someone who clearly can't control themselves.

 

[Joseph Stalin]

BG:EE fucks up the experience by using BG2s classes, spells and weapon proficiency system, despite the fact that BG1 was designed and balanced for its own system. This reason alone is enough to favour the original. For the ultimate experience, don't save scum. The game is designed this approach in mind as well, which makes trash mobs, waylays, rest spawns and traps meaningful.

Sorry, but BG, neither vanilla nor EE, are not balanced in any way, shape or form. As mentioned above, just by picking Fighter you're already playing Easy Mode, whilst playing something like Bard is the exact opposite.

 

[Thac0]

I'm leaning towards autism more, since over the years I've noticed that all his arguments are rote - he repeats the same things, over and over, and those things are barely arguments - just "X is <insert adjective>, if you believe that X is Y, you are <insert adjective>". It's like a broken mind that has memorised some phrases, and holds onto them for dear life as responses to anything and everything.

And if he encounters something that doesn't fit his schematics, he pretends it doesn't exist.

Dude the asperger spectrum IS autism. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asperger_syndrome
It is the "normal" autism where you can still form normal sentences.
From your first posts I considered you to be smarter...

 

[Joseph Stalin]

I'm leaning towards autism more, since over the years I've noticed that all his arguments are rote - he repeats the same things, over and over, and those things are barely arguments - just "X is <insert adjective>, if you believe that X is Y, you are <insert adjective>". It's like a broken mind that has memorised some phrases, and holds onto them for dear life as responses to anything and everything.

And if he encounters something that doesn't fit his schematics, he pretends it doesn't exist.

Dude the asperger spectrum IS autism. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asperger_syndrome
It is the "normal" autism where you can still form normal sentences.
From your first posts I considered you to be smarter...

I'm just dubious about whether Asperger Syndrome is an actual medical condition, or just "medically naming character traits."

 

[Generic-Giant-Spider]

but the behaviour I've observed over the years leads me to believe he is mentally unsound.

We play RPGs from Gold/Silver Box era to current day. We're all deeply disturbed in some way.

LOOK AT ME.

I USED TO BE A MAN, HEDGE.

A MAN.

NOW WHAT THE FUCK AM I.

 

[Jvegi]

I said it's too late because the original BG has aged terribly. It was cool awsame back in a day, but nowadays it could be as far from that as possible. Or maybe I'm wrong and I'm tainted by the mods, EE and the seconds game engine. If you don't have any experience with IE games than play vanilla and forget about NPC Project.

If you have played BG2 or IWD 2, or any of the EEs, than just play BGEE with the newest patch. EE changes some things significantly, but for the veterans if offers so many conviniences, many of which are not avaible through the mods, that going back is difficult.

BTW, are there any mods for BG1 that add more weapon types, so the specialization system from the 2nd game doesn't mess with itemization so much? Nothing crazy, just to give some options. I'd recommend installing something like that.

 

[Joseph Stalin]

but the behaviour I've observed over the years leads me to believe he is mentally unsound.

We play RPGs from Gold/Silver Box era to current day. We're all deeply disturbed in some way.

LOOK AT ME.

I USED TO BE A MAN, HEDGE.

A MAN.

NOW WHAT THE FUCK AM I.

You have eight limbs, so you have an advantage in gaming. I'm jealous.