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Horizon Zero Dawn - open world action-RPG from Guerilla Games - now on PC

sullynathan

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Why don't you have a pro?
I have. This piece of shit heats af. One of the reasons - no vsync. Plus i was lucky to get model with the worst fan. It's jetting almost all the time. Especially in some menus where this garbage tries to give you 500+ fps.
And i thought that 3do was not very good purchase.

As for HZD - it's very boring. If you looked at it and thought "hmm is it kinda like assassin's creed", yes it is. Maaaybe a little better. In comparison. The best thing is sound. That's it.
Pro is extremely loud. Best thing about horizon is combat.
 

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Combat?
Stealth in human camps is clunky and includes battling with camera angle.
Stealth flow on the fields: you shoot robodeer in the ass and all their pack like "who done that!!!". And then they search under every rock in like three miles around while you crouching away in a neighbour area.
Shooting includes desperate tries to hit very tiny spot on thrashing and spinning robot.
That combat?

Now I only made it to the desert.
 
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DalekFlay

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As for HZD - it's very boring. If you looked at it and thought "hmm is it kinda like assassin's creed", yes it is. Maaaybe a little better. In comparison. The best thing is sound. That's it.

If you mean the last couple Assassin's Creeds then it's basically Witcher 3 and Codexers should love it. :smug:
 

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As for HZD - it's very boring. If you looked at it and thought "hmm is it kinda like assassin's creed", yes it is. Maaaybe a little better. In comparison. The best thing is sound. That's it.

If you mean the last couple Assassin's Creeds then it's basically Witcher 3 and Codexers should love it. :smug:

So...I gather you haven't actually played them.
 

Quillon

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It looked like Far Cry to me when there were gameplay with UI for the first time :P
 

Doktor Best

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Witcher 3 is a storyfag game, so copying the game design with shit tier writing and quest design does not accomplish much.

In both regards, Witcher 3 is 2 to 3 school grades above every single Assassins Creed game.
 

DalekFlay

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Except the writing, characters, and quest design are not even remotely similar. So no...

First two don't matter when I'm comparing gameplay. I agree with you, but it doesn't make them significantly different games. As for quest design, they're both follow the marker with a mix of pressing F on stuff and combat. I think your memory plays tricks on you, since you prefer the story/writing.

Lots of FPS games have better stories and writing than other FPS games, but they're all still FPS games.
 

Zlaja

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Would make eating her ass a bit more difficult

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Except the writing, characters, and quest design are not even remotely similar. So no...

First two don't matter when I'm comparing gameplay. I agree with you, but it doesn't make them significantly different games. As for quest design, they're both follow the marker with a mix of pressing F on stuff and combat. I think your memory plays tricks on you, since you prefer the story/writing.

Lots of FPS games have better stories and writing than other FPS games, but they're all still FPS games.

You didn't say gameplay in your original post. Seemed like you were comparing them in a more general way.

As far as following markers, etc, those are superficial comparisons at best considering how many games have those things in common.
 
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As for HZD - it's very boring. If you looked at it and thought "hmm is it kinda like assassin's creed", yes it is. Maaaybe a little better. In comparison. The best thing is sound. That's it.

If you mean the last couple Assassin's Creeds then it's basically Witcher 3 and Codexers should love it. :smug:

So...I gather you haven't actually played them.
Odyssey is very much like Wither 3 except with better itemization
 

NJClaw

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I wanted to write an outraged post about how AC Odissey and The Witcher 3 are completely different from a gameplay perspective, but I realize now that they are basically the same game. I guess the only difference is Gwent, uh.
 

kangaxx

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Stealth in human camps is clunky and includes battling with camera angle.

Agreed, the human AI and combat is a major weak point in this game. It's meme-worthy.

Stealth flow on the fields: you shoot robodeer in the ass and all their pack like "who done that!!!". And then they search under every rock in like three miles around while you crouching away in a neighbour area.

Don't get this complaint... are you saying they shouldn't search for you if you attack them? The deer tend not to attack unless they have numbers IIRC.

Shooting includes desperate tries to hit very tiny spot on thrashing and spinning robot.

It becomes trivial when you unlock abilities that slow time and you get used to arrow trajectory etc.
 
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I wanted to write an outraged post about how AC Odissey and The Witcher 3 are completely different from a gameplay perspective, but I realize now that they are basically the same game. I guess the only difference is Gwent, uh.
Why is it surprising?
First Witcher 3 copied the Ubisoft formula, then Ubisoft copied the Witcher 3 formula back.
 

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are you saying they shouldn't search for you if you attack them?
Well it is the question 'how smart AI in games should be' again.
In Thief games you can extinguish the torch with water arrow. With specific splash sound. And still the guards have no idea what happened and throw out their suspicions very fast.
Is it realistic? No. Is The Thief a bad game? I think it's great.
Answering your question - i think that robots are searching for you too thoroughly for stealth being enjoyable.
 
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DalekFlay

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You didn't say gameplay in your original post. Seemed like you were comparing them in a more general way.

As far as following markers, etc, those are superficial comparisons at best considering how many games have those things in common.

I mainly just enjoy pointing out that while lots of Codexers shit all over Assassin's Creed Origins and games like this, The Witcher 3 is the 15th best RPG of all time according to our poll. If the argument is that Witcher 3 has better story and writing, then yes of course it does, but the gameplay is pretty much the same. Therefore Codex is either full of story fags (hmmm I wonder what our number one game is?) or they enjoy open world marker hunts as much as the Playstation bros do.

Either way, Horizon isn't something that should be dismissed on spec because "it's like Assassin's Creed."
 

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You didn't say gameplay in your original post. Seemed like you were comparing them in a more general way.

As far as following markers, etc, those are superficial comparisons at best considering how many games have those things in common.

I mainly just enjoy pointing out that while lots of Codexers shit all over Assassin's Creed Origins and games like this, The Witcher 3 is the 15th best RPG of all time according to our poll. If the argument is that Witcher 3 has better story and writing, then yes of course it does, but the gameplay is pretty much the same. Therefore Codex is either full of story fags (hmmm I wonder what our number one game is?) or they enjoy open world marker hunts as much as the Playstation bros do.

Either way, Horizon isn't something that should be dismissed on spec because "it's like Assassin's Creed."

That might make more sense if basic mechanics and the story were the sum of what makes a game. I'm pretty sure there are other things that influnce people though like the soundtrack, atmosphere, the setting, etc.

Anyways, I don't see Horizon being much like AC either. I'll know soon enough since I preordered it.
 

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