People News Brian Mitsoda fired from Bloodlines 2

[Infinitron]

Has any game ever released after massive internal changes during production (not pre-production/planning) and turned out remotely decent?

We'll find out in nine days with Wasteland 3, which now has an entirely different team of leads than when it began development in 2016. Of course, G Ziets left his job under much better circumstances than Brian Mitsoda did.

 

[Atlantico]

This is not good news for any project. It will be interesting to find out what actually happened that made them decide to fire Brian, when the dust settles and the game has flopped.

I'm not even hopping on the hate-train, it's just that mismanaged projects tend to fail.

 

[mindx2]

What's different about this is that in these situations it usually ends with some PR written statement about "creative differences" and "both parties mutually agreed to move on' or something similar. Yet here it's basically "We fired him!" with Mitsoda going "Not sure why I was fired" so there has to be much more going on.

 

[Bara]

Either this gets delayed to 2025 with mediocre reviews or gets tossed out and becomes memorable for all the wrong reasons.

Don't entirely feel bad as its paradox that's taking the hits here and I've never been a fan of their DLC policy.

 

[Grauken]

What's different about this is that in these situations it usually ends with some PR written statement about "creative differences" and "both parties mutually agreed to move on' or something similar. Yet here it's basically "We fired him!" with Mitsoda going "Not sure why I was fired" so there has to be much more going on.

Maybe they are ready to cut their losses and release it as is, bugs and all

 

[lukaszek]

deterministic system > RNG

 

[Zeriel]

Lots of people on the Codex are going to automatically assume this because they like Mitsoda, but in his case it's probably more likely that he'd be removed because Paradox want to cut woke content.

I mean if the game is behind schedule, it's likely that some content will need to be cut. Maybe they think Mitsoda and Cluney aren't up to the job.

lmao if you think a european company as cucked as paradox is going to want to remove woke content, this is the same company that rejects its own audience and fanbase because their memes are too "dangerous"

 

[rusty_shackleford]

remember that time paradox got in international trouble for accusing Chechnya of genociding gays

 

[Infinitron]

Lots of people on the Codex are going to automatically assume this because they like Mitsoda, but in his case it's probably more likely that he'd be removed because Paradox want to cut woke content.

I mean if the game is behind schedule, it's likely that some content will need to be cut. Maybe they think Mitsoda and Cluney aren't up to the job.

lmao if you think a european company as cucked as paradox is going to want to remove woke content, this is the same company that rejects its own audience and fanbase because their memes are too "dangerous"

It's more like if content has to be cut, the crazy woke stuff might be the first thing to go. Cara Ellison's trigger warning menu idea? Yeah, that's likely not happening now.

Paradox are European but they're not retarded. One way this game differs from VTMB1 is that its publisher also owns the World of Darkness license. They should have a strong interest in not fucking it up.

 

[Atlantico]

Paradox are European but they're not retarded.

Having played Paradox games since 2003 or so (EU2) and had an eye on them since then, I've never known them as anything but moneygrubbing grinders. If they have "corporate morals" guiding them now, that's something new.

Being Swedish, I reckon they were very excited to have Brian Mitsoda on their payroll and making VtMB2. Starstruck, even.

This is a prestige-project for Paradox. It is a project that can put Paradox on the map like Witcher 3 put CDPR on the map.

I am sure they do not want to fuck this up, but firing Mitsoda sure does make it look like they've fucked up.

 

[Zed]

They say it was done because it was the best thing for the final product. Really does sound like they wanted to add/cut content that they knew Mitsoda and the other person would protest against. Must be that, or they pissed on the wrong executive's shoes.

 

[Zed]

I guess it's not impossible that they only really wanted to get rid of the Design Director and that Mitsoda was an unfortunate extra casualty to clean out the creative lead space for that Ubisoft homo.

 

[mondblut]

Either he looked at some tranny snowflake funny, or PDX feel that the project needs a massive dose of dumbing down injected. An ubisoft executive? Yay, exciting.

Can't wait for this shit to end up worse than Underworld and the usual suspects blaming gamers for it

 

[Kingston]

Games are only good for drama nowadays.

 

[mk0]

It's more like if content has to be cut, the crazy woke stuff might be the first thing to go. Cara Ellison's trigger warning menu idea? Yeah, that's likely not happening now.

Paradox are European but they're not retarded. One way this game differs from VTMB1 is that its publisher also owns the World of Darkness license. They should have a strong interest in not fucking it up.

The denial is strong in this one.

 

[Zed]

I guess the easiest explanation is that some higher-ups actually played the game and thought it sucked balls, as almost every piece of press media so far has indicated.

 

[yes plz]

He was caught on tape saying, "Firing Avellone over that bullshit was fucking gay."

 

[Roguey]

Oh and before you ask, this being 2020, they've already clarified that it's not a sexual harassment thing.

Gossipy speculator that I am, I believe a consensual marriage-breaking relationship with Cara Ellison might have had something to do with it.

 

[Zed]

Jesus Christ.

 

[Jedi Master Radek]

Jesus Christ

 

[Saduj]

I love this line from the company's statement:

"We appreciate, and value, the contributions of Brian and Ka’ai, which were instrumental in establishing the game's storyline and dark tone and have helped to ensure that we are making a true successor to the iconic Bloodlines."

Translates into: We shitcanned Brian and he'll have no say from here on out but we still want to leverage his name in order to sell the idea that our game still somehow has a strong connection to the original.

Pretty standard stuff as far as corporate bullshit goes but I'm easily amused....

 

[Gyor]

I guess the easiest explanation is that some higher-ups actually played the game and thought it sucked balls, as almost every piece of press media so far has indicated.

He should have made it turned based, like Baldur's Gate 3, but using WoD rules. *ducks*

 

[Nano]

Jesus Christ.

I don't get it. I'm not happy about the news, obviously, but teaching rats hide & seek is awesome and cute.

 

[Ismaul]

WHAT. THE. FUCK.

I had stopped following the game since it didn't look good, but I somehow still had hopes because of Mitsoda. Now? Fuck it to hell.

But firing both Mitsoda and Cluney? The two most important people on this? This smells like a coup to me.

Poor Mitsoda man, the guy can't get a break.

 

[normie]

so, about that in-game dev commentary (feat. Brian Mitsoda)