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Joseph Stalin

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Oh, and as to the method Bhaal conceived children - it would make far more sense to "donate" his essence to a regular act of conception between two mortals - after all, it was in his best interest to keep his activities hidden until the Time of Troubles actually occurred. I never thought of this as a scenario where an avatar of Bhaal literally fucked a woman, since such an event would very quickly gained notoriety. After all, the guy has been doing it for many years prior to the Avatar Crisis - he even managed to sire a child with a dragon, who is a full adult by the time of Throne of Bhaal.
It's stated everywhere I looked he physically mated with women.

Source me, man.
 

Dodo1610

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We know if a dragon shapeshifts into a human than the child will be a half-dragon. Ellminster has a half Dragon daughter because of that.
 

Gargaune

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It is a weird Lacrymas 's fetish thing. He is the only codexer that will hate a game because of aesthetics of the UI.
Eh, I wouldn't say hate, but I'm also not fond of when fantasy RPGs look like Windows extensions. I prefer it when they have loads of skeumorphics in their UIs, scrolls and stonework and little gauntlets for cursors, shit like that. It's a mood thing.
 

fantadomat

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It is a weird Lacrymas 's fetish thing. He is the only codexer that will hate a game because of aesthetics of the UI.
Eh, I wouldn't say hate, but I'm also not fond of when fantasy RPGs look like Windows extensions. I prefer it when they have loads of skeumorphics in their UIs, scrolls and stonework and little gauntlets for cursors, shit like that. It's a mood thing.
I too prefer fantasy ui,but won't got butthurt mad if a game doesn't have the ui i like :).
 

Silly Germans

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Solasta doesn't look like a "trashfire" at all
Yes, it does, lol.

Irenicus stealing a part of your divine soul to safe his own is a pretty good main story. It wouldn't require that much rewriting if you removed Imoen. Just say that he already started the ritual in his dungeon and you suffer from effects due to it. This would give you reasons to follow him even if Imoen wasn't there. At Spellhold he manages to finish the ritual and everything proceeds normally from there. This could have been a perfectly fine main story without involving Imoen at all. An evil aligned character wouldn't even need that, revenge would be more than enough. Actually the whole Imoen plot feels out of place when you play an evil alignment char.
Irenicus himself is out of place considering he doesn't have anything to do with the entire rest of the franchise. Imoen is a crutch trying to connect the two games together and they knew it.
I don't understand what you mean with the bold part. How is he out of place ? He certainly fits the setting. The connection between both games is playing the same character and being a child of Bhaal. How is Irenicus more "out of place" than any other new character that is introduced with BG II ?
 

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We know if a dragon shapeshifts into a human than the child will be a half-dragon. Ellminster has a half Dragon daughter because of that.
so he fucked a dragon ?
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Hiss!
 
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Joseph Stalin

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Solasta doesn't look like a "trashfire" at all
Yes, it does, lol.

Irenicus stealing a part of your divine soul to safe his own is a pretty good main story. It wouldn't require that much rewriting if you removed Imoen. Just say that he already started the ritual in his dungeon and you suffer from effects due to it. This would give you reasons to follow him even if Imoen wasn't there. At Spellhold he manages to finish the ritual and everything proceeds normally from there. This could have been a perfectly fine main story without involving Imoen at all. An evil aligned character wouldn't even need that, revenge would be more than enough. Actually the whole Imoen plot feels out of place when you play an evil alignment char.
Irenicus himself is out of place considering he doesn't have anything to do with the entire rest of the franchise. Imoen is a crutch trying to connect the two games together and they knew it.
I don't understand what you mean with the bold part. How is he out of place ? He certainly fits the setting. The connection between both games is playing the same character and being a child of Bhaal. How is Irenicus more "out of place" than any other new character that is introduced with BG II ?

Also his statement about Imoen is retarded, and wrong. Her death was rolled back because the devs discovered, to their utter surprise, that she is a popular character.
 

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What is Critical Role ruining exactly?
They have this dweeb energy about them. Tumblr nerddom personified. It's kind of asking what do Beamdog's NPCs ruin exactly.

Explorer's Guide to Wildemount was a great book, it's Acquisitions Inc that is pure shit, AI is what poisons whatever it touches, worse fucking Forgotten Realms book EVER! It's race was Woke Gobliniods created by folks who OD on Anime and not the good shit like Tentacle Porn either.

I will take Critical Role over Aquisitions Inc any day of the week. I can't stand the premise of AI even, in setting like FR there no institutions to Incorporate an originizations. Fuck AI.
 

Gyor

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Critical Role is basically a sanitized and happily delivered stereotype of what most people imagine D&D to be like. The known voice actors on the show are there to lend credibility to the nerd culture phenomenon and given their success/taste for theatrics makes a casual viewer get wrapped into their campaign and truly believe D&D is how they portray it.

If you hate the type of writing which is purple prose from Hell and verbose, Critical Role is the tabletop version of that. It'll breed a bunch of dipshits that just want to tell an "awesome story" and get bogged on the details of description while occasionally remembering there's supposed to be combat.

The best tabletop campaigns will be by DMs that tell you the important details and create great encounters, not Matthew Mercer self-indulging on being a failed actor.

Critical Role is poison. Their brand of Dungeons & Dragons gives you few dungeons and sometimes throwing you a dragon.

Don't be over dramatic, it's not that big a deal.
 

Gyor

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Btw in an interview it was confirmed Infernal Warmachines and Soul Coins from Avernus are in the game, so I think you guys know what that means if you are familiar with BG: DiA.

This game is looking way darker then BG1&2 which makes all the worries that it, was going to be as Silly as DOS2 seem funny.
 

Lawntoilet

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This game is looking way darker then BG1&2 which makes all the worries that it, was going to be as Silly as DOS2 seem funny.
Except Larian's never written anything particularly dark, and even their good writing has a relatively silly tone, so that's not reassuring either based on their track record.
 
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This game is looking way darker then BG1&2 which makes all the worries that it, was going to be as Silly as DOS2 seem funny.
Except Larian's never written anything particularly dark, and even their good writing has a relatively silly tone, so that's not reassuring either based on their track record.
One of the main changes from DOS1 to DOS2 was how much less "silly" it was and how dark the writing is
I get this feeling that people shitting on DOS2 never actually played it
 

Prime Junta

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One of the main changes from DOS1 to DOS2 was how much less "silly" it was and how dark the writing is
I get this feeling that people shitting on DOS2 never actually played it

I played about a third of the way through before giving up on it. They completely ruined the combat with the new armour mechanics, that turned what used to be a fun and occasionally stupid game of rock-paper-scissors into a tedious, rote grind. The writing and the rest of it didn't bother me, I never played DOS1 for that either and it was easy to ignore. It's a shame really because the game has a lot going for it.
 

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Hey quick question what's the DnD ability allows, you as what I presume ranger class, to shoot bow with fire arrow and ignite whole party(from BG3 stream)
 

Spectacle

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Okay I get that he ignited arrow to add fire dmg... but why it went all AOE on the party?
I'm guessing there was napalm all over the ground or something, like there usually is in Larian games.
 

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