Wasteland Wasteland 3 + Battle of Steeltown and Cult of the Holy Detonation Expansions Thread

[Child of Malkav]

https://gamerant.com/wasteland-3-special-ending-hackers/

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Only thing close to a complaint I have is that it's yet another cRPG with full camera control when there's no reason for it. Why the hate for fixed cameras?

 

[Grotesque]

what the fuck is that fire effect around the barrel nozzle?

Is this a fuckin fantasy RPG and that is the "assault rifle of fire"?

 

[Cyberarmy]

60 euro

1 with gamepass

Plus selling your butt to M$ by having win10 installed

I'm pretty sure they are not interested in my fat, hairy ass. And if they're I'm kinda flattered.

 

[Kruno]

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what the fuck is that fire effect around the barrel nozzle?

Is this a fuckin fantasy RPG and that is the "assault rifle of fire"?

You're not a real American, are you?

 

[jungl]

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what the fuck is that fire effect around the barrel nozzle?

Is this a fuckin fantasy RPG and that is the "assault rifle of fire"?

Its a game where you have a cat tank a hail of gatling gun fire from scorpitron while the last ranger in your is squad desperately trying to take it down.

 

[Grotesque]

The voice actress voicing this NPC would be perfect to voice Diablo 4's Adria

 

[SoupNazi]

One more annoyance - even if you have high enough PER to discover mines, your toons will just run over them casually. You have to manually control each one to get them past a minefield because they're all retarded. Ffs.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

The difficulty jump between the highest and the one below it is kinda annoying. Enemies go from being pushovers to massive bullet sponges that kill my team members in one hit.

 

[Fedora Master]

your toons

 

[Fedora Master]

The difficulty jump between the highest and the one below it is kinda annoying. Enemies go from being pushovers to massive bullet sponges that kill my team members in one hit.

I like how the "customize difficulty" option at the beginning is just "Do you want friendly fire on or off?"

 

[Sailor Woedica]

Skill Up (who has like 600,000 subscribers on youtube) said this is one of his favourite games he's played this year!

 

[randir14]

Is this a fuckin fantasy RPG and that is the "assault rifle of fire"?

It's one of the guns that uses explosive ammo. But yeah the fire effect is dumb.

 

[Darkwind]

So 15 hours later 2 things I have noticed very strongly that no one appears to be talking about as most posts seem to be subjective thoughts on the game vs. actual data-

1) Weird Science weapons are weird yes, but don't seem entirely useful, more like novelty items. This is especially true of the various "rocket launcher" type weapons. Frozen Ferret Launcher and Meson Cannon both clearly state they are rocket launchers. So area of effect / splash damage right? Wrong! They are single target weapons which makes no sense since they are literally shoulder fired cannons. *shrug* If you are playing for the role-play effect go crazy, but the 'normal' weapons of the same rank are much better from the looks of it.

2) Energy Weapons >>> ALL. Allow me to explain some quick maths. Energy weapons have roughly equivalent dmg to conventional weapons but have a -30% penalty hitting meat targets vs. armored targets. Sounds like a lot, until you take into consideration that they bypass ALL armor. All of it. So that 30% dmg loss would have easily been soaked by armor shooting a normal weapon w/o high penetration. (non sniper rifle basically). I will gladly take the 30% dmg "loss" for the fact that all the rest of the dmg is applied fully. If you pay attention to the formula laid out in the tutorial you will see that high armor can soak 80% dmg easily so you are in no way penalized for running a full energy squad.

Related to 2, and oddly, energy weapons are now really 'elemental' weapons, they ripped of DOS2 with this. You'd think you would need weird science skill to wield energy weapons but you 100% do not. They are actually controlled by the relevant weapon skill. So big guns, automatic, etc etc. making weird science even less useful. There seems to be no compelling reason not to use them after 10+ hours of watching them melt faces armored and unarmored alike. So tl;dr- Energy Cell Ammo is the only limiting factor in putting your entire party into energy weapons.

 

[fantadomat]

Skill Up (who has like 600,000 subscribers on youtube) said this is one of his favourite games he's played this year!

Which is the most casual of games lol,how low has the codex fallen. We now compare ourself to some casualtard that likes popamoles.


LoL i am going for a drink.

 

[Grotesque]

a bug that makes justice to the beautiful 2D aet of items?


equipped guns should should be seen way bigger in the inventory UI

 

[jackofshadows]

2) Energy Weapons >>> ALL. Allow me to explain some quick maths. Energy weapons have roughly equivalent dmg to conventional weapons but have a -30% penalty hitting meat targets vs. armored targets. Sounds like a lot, until you take into consideration that they bypass ALL armor. All of it. So that 30% dmg loss would have easily been soaked by armor shooting a normal weapon w/o high penetration. (non sniper rifle basically). I will gladly take the 30% dmg "loss" for the fact that all the rest of the dmg is applied fully. If you pay attention to the formula laid out in the tutorial you will see that high armor can soak 80% dmg easily so you are in no way penalized for running a full energy squad.

Disagree. I barely see so far (17 lvl) any problem with enemie's armor except for some rare bosses (which are no problem for snipers or explosives anyway) and I went for luck with gunslinger girl so even she's fine. The only real upside of the energy weapons is some occasional effects like shock (it "charms" turrels btw) freeze etc. And of course they're still extremely effective vs robots/sinths which energy cells are for, basically.

 

[LJ40]

SpaceWizardz has helpfully uploaded the covers of

Spoiler

the Green Acres theme and Wang Chung's Everybody Have Fun Tonight.

These are new to me, so I'm a bit disappointed that the soundtrack that came with the collector's edition wasn't comprehensive.

The Welcome Back Kotter theme song is in there too. If there's a *complete* version of the soundtrack, I would very much like to hear it.

 

[Mystary!]

Bit confused by the xp system. My Bookworm with 8 Charisma levels up slower than my Charisma 1 dude.
Is it because of how often their skills are being used?

 

[Alienman]

2) Energy Weapons >>> ALL. Allow me to explain some quick maths. Energy weapons have roughly equivalent dmg to conventional weapons but have a -30% penalty hitting meat targets vs. armored targets. Sounds like a lot, until you take into consideration that they bypass ALL armor. All of it. So that 30% dmg loss would have easily been soaked by armor shooting a normal weapon w/o high penetration. (non sniper rifle basically). I will gladly take the 30% dmg "loss" for the fact that all the rest of the dmg is applied fully. If you pay attention to the formula laid out in the tutorial you will see that high armor can soak 80% dmg easily so you are in no way penalized for running a full energy squad.

Disagree. I barely see so far (17 lvl) any problem with enemie's armor except for some rare bosses (which are no problem for snipers or explosives anyway) and I went for luck with gunslinger girl so even she's fine. The only real upside of the energy weapons is some occasional effects like shock (it "charms" turrels btw) freeze etc. And of course they're still extremely effective vs robots/sinths which energy cells are for, basically.

There is also the problem with ammo.

 

[jackofshadows]

Bit confused by the xp system. My Bookworm with 8 Charisma levels up slower than my Charisma 1 dude.
Is it because of how often their skills are being used?

Yes, skills like lockpick or nerd stuff are provide quite a lot of XP.

Has anyone done Quarex's quest?

Edit: nvm I think it's bugged.

Spoiler

I've found him in The Warrens but his pitch makes little sense. Whhich monsters? I cleared the whole map last time. Or he means the mobs back in CS?

 

[jungl]

So 15 hours later 2 things I have noticed very strongly that no one appears to be talking about as most posts seem to be subjective thoughts on the game vs. actual data-

1) Weird Science weapons are weird yes, but don't seem entirely useful, more like novelty items. This is especially true of the various "rocket launcher" type weapons. Frozen Ferret Launcher and Meson Cannon both clearly state they are rocket launchers. So area of effect / splash damage right? Wrong! They are single target weapons which makes no sense since they are literally shoulder fired cannons. *shrug* If you are playing for the role-play effect go crazy, but the 'normal' weapons of the same rank are much better from the looks of it.

2) Energy Weapons >>> ALL. Allow me to explain some quick maths. Energy weapons have roughly equivalent dmg to conventional weapons but have a -30% penalty hitting meat targets vs. armored targets. Sounds like a lot, until you take into consideration that they bypass ALL armor. All of it. So that 30% dmg loss would have easily been soaked by armor shooting a normal weapon w/o high penetration. (non sniper rifle basically). I will gladly take the 30% dmg "loss" for the fact that all the rest of the dmg is applied fully. If you pay attention to the formula laid out in the tutorial you will see that high armor can soak 80% dmg easily so you are in no way penalized for running a full energy squad.

Related to 2, and oddly, energy weapons are now really 'elemental' weapons, they ripped of DOS2 with this. You'd think you would need weird science skill to wield energy weapons but you 100% do not. They are actually controlled by the relevant weapon skill. So big guns, automatic, etc etc. making weird science even less useful. There seems to be no compelling reason not to use them after 10+ hours of watching them melt faces armored and unarmored alike. So tl;dr- Energy Cell Ammo is the only limiting factor in putting your entire party into energy weapons.

its easy to get penetration to hurt most enemies. There also the pistol ability that cuts armor in half which makes even robots weak to normal guns.

 

[Jick Magger]

So backtracking on my claim on melee skills, they can be useful if leveled up correctly and given the right stats, as I found yesterday. I do agree with complaints regarding Weird Science though. Specced a character to be able to use them and while some of its items are fairly good (the sonic emitter can be helpful in certain scenarios), most of them are incredibly situational at best or impractical at worst. The weird science armor pieces seem neat too, but most of them have strength requirements that seem somewhat counter-intuitive depending on what build you're going for. I just straight-up haven't bothered with big guns because it just looks like a whole bunch of gimmick weapons.

 

[Brickfrog]

I made a buff/debuff leadership and weird science mule and I'm pretty happy with him. Just having him run around using demoralize, rally, and sonic emitter is working fine, but on ranger it seems like everything works anyway.
There's an armor set that requires 6 weird science that's good. Also the +30% experience from max charisma is actually pretty insane. On my next run I'm gonna have max charisma skill mule for sure.

 

[Goral]

Bit confused by the xp system. My Bookworm with 8 Charisma levels up slower than my Charisma 1 dude.
Is it because of how often their skills are being used?

Yes, skills like lockpick or nerd stuff are provide quite a lot of XP.

Has anyone done Quarex's quest?

Edit: nvm I think it's bugged.

Spoiler

I've found him in The Warrens but his pitch makes little sense. Whhich monsters? I cleared the whole map last time. Or he means the mobs back in CS?

It's not bugged, there are wolverines near the broken pipe in the Warren's. You haven't been paying attention to what he said.

Anyway, I like that after clearing a location some critters appeared, in general world in W3 feels a lot more responsive and dynamic than in W2 or DOS.