Grand Strategy Crusader Kings III

[Fedora Master]

Why the fuck do you get a breakdown of your gold income in the upper right but not with prestige or faith? Dammit Paradox.

You do if you hover over the number.

Dang it, okay that's not entirely intuitive.

 

[Fedora Master]

e: IT KEEPS GETTING WORSE

 

[muds_animal_friend]

If the design of an history-based strategy game contradicts historical plausibility then maybe the design is a bit shit.

Still, weird shit is going to happen, because it's a sandbox. I think it's one of the stronger points of the game, rather than a weak point, because it adds to replayability.

Collapse of a faith's religious zeal -- and corresponding resistance to conversion -- due to it *winning* religious wars is not weird shit happening because it's a sandbox. It's stupid shit happening specifically because Paradox intended that stupid shit to happen. It's stupid shit by design; not by RNG.

 

[BlackAdderBG]

The only stable state in the game is ERE and it's obvious why. They need to just give the AI single heir. It feels very non-historic and inverted i.e. the more advanced societies were using fairer inheritance systems not the other way around. In 100 years it makes the map very ugly. I think the magic boats also are a big reason for the randomness.

Changing culture and religion is waaaay to easy too.

 

[Harthwain]

This occurs in the event of a successful fabrication (by event), yes? In which case for all legal purposes & perception by other characters, your new 'dad' is the real dad, no? Happy to mea culpa if I'm the one with brain failure. I've done a lot of intrigue stuff and I've only seen the game treat every kind of secret as a 'real' secret (i.e. if they have a secret of being born a bastard, they really are a bastard).

This system leads to THIS though. It needs some checks. And not just for bastardization. There are other situations when this breaks down (like THIS).

CK2 was already a breakout hit with plenty of casual fans, and if there's one thing CK3 has done very well, it is to deliver something that delivers exactly the CK2 gameplay loop in a way that's easy for CK2 players to pick up and enjoy again. "Shady playz" my ass, it's a sign of weak rationality if you see something you don't like and you can only come up with conspiracy.

Indeed. There is nothing surprising about CK3 being a success.

Edit:

Collapse of a faith's religious zeal -- and corresponding resistance to conversion -- due to it *winning* religious wars is not weird shit happening because it's a sandbox. It's stupid shit happening specifically because Paradox intended that stupid shit to happen. It's stupid shit by design; not by RNG.

Again, it makes sense if you don't want an already strong religion to be getting even stronger, because it can keep winning religious wars over and over. The principle makes sense. What doesn't is the execution, like, when it leads to complete collapse of a religion due to fervor being constantly at 0.

 

[Jrpgfan]

https://www.pcgamer.com/this-crusader-kings-3-player-ate-the-pope/

The real Doritos Pope.

 

[Catacombs]

https://www.pcgamer.com/this-crusader-kings-3-player-ate-the-pope/

The real Doritos Pope.

Literally posted this a few days ago: https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads/crusader-kings-iii.127793/page-77#post-6901999

Still funny tho.

 

[Fedora Master]

 

[Fedora Master]

 

[Zero Credibility]

Ugh, the tribal conquer county / duchy cb has no distance limit. That explains some of the border gore. Also:

Spoiler

 

[Fedora Master]

See, this I actually like. The emperor actually gave away vassals belonging to my newly founded kingdom on his own.

 

[Fedora Master]

And then again, there's this shit:

 

[fantadomat]

And then again, there's this shit:

Yes,the game is SJW codded,that is not a surprise. It is no womder that all the world end up with female rulers 20 years after the start lol.

 

[Harthwain]

You can grant titles to her husband. That's how you can "land" women from your family (after you marry them in a way that the children will be of your dynasty).

 

[Fedora Master]

You can grant titles to her husband. That's how you can "land" women from your family (after you marry them in a way that the children will be of your dynasty).

Even if the husband is unlanded? And how would that satisfy HER wanting the duchy title.

 

[thesecret1]

I wish I could just force all vassals to go agnatic succession. You NEVER want their titles to pass to a woman, since she just marries some other duke vassal you have, and boom, there you go, an unruly vassal to annoy you and stir shit up. With agnatic, if they run out of heirs, it just goes to you

 

[vonAchdorf]

You can add Male only inheritance to titles before granting them to a vassal. The prestige costs make it not very practical though. Maybe for important / powerful Duchies.

 

[Harthwain]

Even if the husband is unlanded? And how would that satisfy HER wanting the duchy title.

1) Yes. I had unlanded men with good traits married to my daughters via matrilineal marriage and gave them the land, because Catholics can't give lands to women. In the end my dynasty will inherit and there is a good chance they will get good traits out of it.

2) Since her husband will own the title, she should lose the lust for it. It will also invalidate the whole faction.

 

[The Brazilian Slaughter]

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Tell me about it, in my current game, Galicia was invaded by some Grand Mayor dude. Imagine my surprise when it was by some Swedish Grandmayor invading Galicia because... I dunno?

And then I discovered that the Swedes had returned to worshipping the Aesir and were in fact all Nordic Pagans. What the fuck!

Now those assholes raid Galicia from time to time.

We actually lost a county to that Swedish asshole, because we were all too busy trying to beat the two ongoing islamic invasions of Galicia by giant muslim hordes. My liege is allied to the Danelaw.

Pro: The Danelaw comes to help us crush muslim invaders.

Con: I want to depose my own liege from YEARS but every time I get ready to, something happens - muslim invasion, swedish invasion, no money, and now he's allied to one of the strongest Christian Kings.

FFS!

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See, this I actually like. The emperor actually gave away vassals belonging to my newly founded kingdom on his own.

Happened with me too, it is very cool.

 

[Fedora Master]

As I suspected I couldn't give the duchy to the husband, he needed a county or barony first. Gave it to some other guy entirely to shut the faction down.

Also, Paradox never changes. This is with diplo range as restricted as possible, by the way.

e: Diplo range doesn't apply of course WHEN YOU HAVE BLOBS OF TERRITORY ALL OVER SOUTHERN EUROPE

 

[Multi-headed Cow]

I converted Spain to Messalianism because I'm reaching my usual Crusader Kings tipping point of "Well, I have a big-ass blob, time to get super incestuous and corrupt and see how long I can hold it together" and Jesus H Christ it's a giant orgy all the time. You think it's bad enough how much cheating goes on in CK3, once your religion actively promotes it it goes berserk. Other than the constant barrage of learning of infidelity (Which my only option essentially boils down to "Why did you even tell me this" because of my religion) and getting propositioned by everyone, the biggest issue is bishophorics aren't being passed down, so every time some random-ass shithead dies in bumfuck nowhere in my kingdom I have to track that county down and assign someone else or else it keeps jacking up my demense.

In the future I'll probably steer clear of fuck'n'suck religions unless I'm a much smaller kingdom. Kind of annoying here.

 

[MajorMace]

Other than the constant barrage of learning of infidelity (Which my only option essentially boils down to "Why did you even tell me this" because of my religion)

Spoiler

 

[IDtenT]

Has anyone succeeded at converting from tribal to feudal and surviving? Currently you're hit with a massive handicap that destroys your kingdom.

 

[fantadomat]

Has anyone succeeded at converting from tribal to feudal and surviving? Currently you're hit with a massive handicap that destroys your kingdom.

What do you mean,the tech? If so i haven't noticed any penalties.

 

[IDtenT]

Has anyone succeeded at converting from tribal to feudal and surviving? Currently you're hit with a massive handicap that destroys your kingdom.

What do you mean,the tech? If so i haven't noticed any penalties.

Men-at-arms go from dirt cheap to unaffordable. Level 1 castles with no buildings in counties. No churches or cities.

The only strategy I can think of is relocating to a place that was feudal to begin with.