No Man's Sky

[MadMaxHellfire]

I never manage to even get off the first planet because I get so bored fixing the ship

that's actually the most fun part of the game.
next comes getting your first freighter (only to find out it's mostly a money sink and nothing more)
third place for finding the repairable wreck of another ship (only to find out it's somehow leveled and you'll never find a ship better than the one you already have)

 

[Reapa]

I've tried this at basically every major update and I never manage to even get off the first planet because I get so bored fixing the ship. They really need to make the intro more entertaining than "run around the planet pointing a laser at shit for two hours"
I manage to 'beat' the game when it first released(where you just get sent right back to the start)

I don't even mind the farming mats I need to fix my shit, but all the text is so goddamn slow, takes ages to skip through all the pointless scribble. And to repair a fucking part it takes way too many clicks, just make a FIX button that fixes it as long as I have the required items, instead of the annoying extra steps it takes.

but that's the game.
there's really not much else to do other than farming materials and making fuel to get more materials

 

[Reapa]

And still runs like absolute garbage on hardware that didn't exist when the game was released, off an SSD.

That is because your PC is simulated.
Also GTX2030 regardless if released today or 10 years ago is still garbage

But yeah i switched it on and going with High or ultra brings down my GTX980 to its knees.

seems to me like it runs like garbage on purpose. i tried the origins update and it has poping in ground details all the time at very close range on 9900k and 2080ti. at max 15% and 73% usage. it seems to unload textures to free up ram or gram while you're walking in one direction just to load them again if you turn around. it's retarded as fuck especially when there's fucking 64gb of ram available and 4gb of gram free.
there seems to be as much as 4 different levels of terrain detail and only the very first and most basic one ist loaded in your vicinity until you look at it for a few seconds. you can literally watch the ground change 4 times while looking at it.

 

[Curratum]

Yep, you walk on Quake 2 textures for a bit and then it loads up the high-detail LODs, looks HIDEOUS and the system is doing nothing in the meantime.

Imagine asset pop-in from a fucking SSD in 2020! :D

 

[DDZ]

I've tried this at basically every major update and I never manage to even get off the first planet because I get so bored fixing the ship. They really need to make the intro more entertaining than "run around the planet pointing a laser at shit for two hours"
I manage to 'beat' the game when it first released(where you just get sent right back to the start)

I don't even mind the farming mats I need to fix my shit, but all the text is so goddamn slow, takes ages to skip through all the pointless scribble. And to repair a fucking part it takes way too many clicks, just make a FIX button that fixes it as long as I have the required items, instead of the annoying extra steps it takes.

but that's the game.
there's really not much else to do other than farming materials and making fuel to get more materials

Like I said, I don't even mind that part, it's the interface and how much steps it takes to repair things.

 

[Reapa]

Yep, you walk on Quake 2 textures for a bit and then it loads up the high-detail LODs, looks HIDEOUS and the system is doing nothing in the meantime.

Imagine asset pop-in from a fucking SSD in 2020! :D

did i mention i run it on a samsung 970 pro? it's not even an ssd, it's a monster ssd. but it shouldn't even load graphics from the ssd, i have enough ram for 6x the game.
the game/update is garbage.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

I have it installed on an nvme ssd(ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro), takes a long time for textures to properly stream in and everything looks really low quality until they do

 

[Ol' Willy]

it seems to unload textures to free up ram or gram while you're walking in one direction just to load them again if you turn around.

That's similar to how Wolfenstein 3D engine works, whoah

 

[Reapa]

it seems to unload textures to free up ram or gram while you're walking in one direction just to load them again if you turn around.

That's similar to how Wolfenstein 3D engine works, whoah

interesting. could be an issue they're having with making these games for console. pretty sure console doesn't have much ram or gram. and they never bothered to change the way the game loads the textures for pcs.

 

[DDZ]

I had a shitload of problems with performance with my i5 3570k @ 4.3ghz and an r9 290x and 16gb ram, got a Radeon 5700 at the start of the year and the performance still sucked. Game was installed on an SSD and no matter what settings I chose it was always shit.

Upgraded the rest of my system with a Ryzen 3600 and now the game runs smooth, no more pop-in and stuttering, though framerate dips below 60 at times, still feels smooth with freesync I suppose. So not a super fast system but it runs fine.

Then again, the game still looks like absolute trash, and it shouldn't give that many people so much trouble.

 

[Reapa]

I had a shitload of problems with performance with my i5 3570k @ 4.3ghz and an r9 290x and 16gb ram, got a Radeon 5700 at the start of the year and the performance still sucked. Game was installed on an SSD and no matter what settings I chose it was always shit.

Upgraded the rest of my system with a Ryzen 3600 and now the game runs smooth, no more pop-in and stuttering, though framerate dips below 60 at times, still feels smooth with freesync I suppose. So not a super fast system but it runs fine.

Then again, the game still looks like absolute trash, and it shouldn't give that many people so much trouble.

what quality and resolution are you playing at?

 

[DDZ]

Everything maxed at 1080p

I had a shitload of problems with performance with my i5 3570k @ 4.3ghz and an r9 290x and 16gb ram, got a Radeon 5700 at the start of the year and the performance still sucked. Game was installed on an SSD and no matter what settings I chose it was always shit.

Upgraded the rest of my system with a Ryzen 3600 and now the game runs smooth, no more pop-in and stuttering, though framerate dips below 60 at times, still feels smooth with freesync I suppose. So not a super fast system but it runs fine.

Then again, the game still looks like absolute trash, and it shouldn't give that many people so much trouble.

what quality and resolution are you playing at?

Everything Ultra except shadows I think I took down a notch.

 

[Reapa]

alright, i found the problem. it's tesselation. there's 4 levels of tesselation in the settings. first one is standard and standard = disabled. funny how they name things in this game so if you don't read the detailed info you'd think standard is something.
now even on the second level of tesselation (enhanced) there is serious popin taking several seconds to render even while looking at the ground at your feet. and this is one layer of "extra detail". at highest level (ultra) there's 3 layers.
if this is not an issue with vulkan or drivers then it is basically a retarded feature that makes no sense to implement at all other than perhaps for nice screen shots.
it's good though that the devs were not retarded enough to stream the graphics like i assumed on the fly from the hard drive and this is just a rendering issue with a taked on feature.

 

[Reapa]

Everything maxed at 1080p

I had a shitload of problems with performance with my i5 3570k @ 4.3ghz and an r9 290x and 16gb ram, got a Radeon 5700 at the start of the year and the performance still sucked. Game was installed on an SSD and no matter what settings I chose it was always shit.

Upgraded the rest of my system with a Ryzen 3600 and now the game runs smooth, no more pop-in and stuttering, though framerate dips below 60 at times, still feels smooth with freesync I suppose. So not a super fast system but it runs fine.

Then again, the game still looks like absolute trash, and it shouldn't give that many people so much trouble.

what quality and resolution are you playing at?

Everything Ultra except shadows I think I took down a notch.

tell me if you have tesselation on, at what level and if there is really no popin at all. because i tested it at different resolutions and it always creates popins for me.

 

[Reapa]

this seems to be an older problem, though i haven't encountered it before now. maybe i just haven't played this game in such a long while that the issue is younger than my last try.
for anyone looking for a fix, there seems to b a mod out there that is supposed to get rid of the tesselation pop in while using tesselation with varied result reports. now the mod is broken for the origins expansion, but the modder says he's working on an update.
https://www.nexusmods.com/nomanssky/mods/1316?tab=files
looking at the comments i don't see how he fixes it and why the devs didn't fix it themselves instead of delivering a broken feature.
there's also a weird report in the comments from someone who claims the mod completely changes the visuals on some planets

 

[<3sRichardSimmons]

it seems to unload textures to free up ram or gram while you're walking in one direction just to load them again if you turn around.

That's similar to how Wolfenstein 3D engine works, whoah

interesting. could be an issue they're having with making these games for console. pretty sure console doesn't have much ram or gram. and they never bothered to change the way the game loads the textures for pcs.

Uhh... No offense man, but I’m not sure if you know what Wolfenstein 3D is.

 

[Reapa]

it seems to unload textures to free up ram or gram while you're walking in one direction just to load them again if you turn around.

That's similar to how Wolfenstein 3D engine works, whoah

interesting. could be an issue they're having with making these games for console. pretty sure console doesn't have much ram or gram. and they never bothered to change the way the game loads the textures for pcs.

Uhh... No offense man, but I’m not sure if you know what Wolfenstein 3D is.

i thought he was talking about the new ones. my bad

 

[Ol' Willy]

Uhh... No offense man, but I’m not sure if you know what Wolfenstein 3D is.

Clarifying the issue:

Carmack also took the unusual approach of creating the displayed graphics through ray casting, in which only the surfaces visible to the player were calculated rather than the entire area surrounding the player.

I know it's not the same, but some similarities are present.

 

[Zombra]

Somebody posted that this game is on sale again ... warning to anyone who wants to try it, avoid avoid avoid. No matter what looks good about this game to you, some other, cheaper game does it much better.

 

[MadMaxHellfire]

can anyone ask zombra which similar games he would suggest? somebody he's not ignoring. yeah, i know it's a hard request, he ignores half the forum.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

If you like the exploring the unknown aspect I'd recommend subnautica

 

[Metro]

Why is this not bundle fodder yet?

 

[<3sRichardSimmons]

So as I said earlier I like going shooty-shooty in space (TIE Fighter is possibly my GOAT). Since the consensus here seems to be that NMS sucks at that even more than most of the other things it sucks at, does anyone have any recommendations? Not looking for anything super hardcore, but also not so simple and boring as arcade stuff.

Just bought a new joystick and am looking for something Fun to fuck around with. (And yes, I know nothing is as good as TIE Fighter).

 

[Reapa]

So as I said earlier I like going shooty-shooty in space (TIE Fighter is possibly my GOAT). Since the consensus here seems to be that NMS sucks at that even more than most of the other things it sucks at, does anyone have any recommendations? Not looking for anything super hardcore, but also not so simple and boring as arcade stuff.

Just bought a new joystick and am looking for something Fun to fuck around with. (And yes, I know nothing is as good as TIE Fighter).

freelancer and everspace

 

[<3sRichardSimmons]

So as I said earlier I like going shooty-shooty in space (TIE Fighter is possibly my GOAT). Since the consensus here seems to be that NMS sucks at that even more than most of the other things it sucks at, does anyone have any recommendations? Not looking for anything super hardcore, but also not so simple and boring as arcade stuff.

Just bought a new joystick and am looking for something Fun to fuck around with. (And yes, I know nothing is as good as TIE Fighter).

freelancer and everspace

Played Freelancer on release and found it okay. Didn’t care for the reliance on piloting in third person and iirc the joystick controls were weirdly shit compared to m+kb. Been a long time since I played it though. Will check out Everspace.