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Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 Pre-Release Thread [EARLY ACCESS RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

purupuru

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Day/night cycle without it causing a major change in the gameworld is immersion breaking. I'd expect new monsters to come out at night, people lock up shop and go home, undead to be weaker during the day, roosters to crow at dawn, etc.,
If it's just visual then it's even worse than simply not having it.
There is some truth in what you said, though I would say having to wait several hours on street just for a shop to open is far more immersion breaking. Yes you can try to go to an inn every night but that gets old really fast, especially with the horrible load time in many modern games.
Which is why e.g., beth games have the option to just wait in once place for a set amount of time
Ah, but that is exactly what I said, the "waiting" function is immersion breaking. "Resting" is fine, I can picture my pc chilling in a camp or sleeping in a bed, but "waiting"? Realistically just waiting for half an hour with nothing to do would drive a man insane, let alone several straight hours on a street at night for no greater reason than selling your loot at the blacksmith, as far as i know most fantasy settings don't have smartphones.
You know what, I'm gonna mod my TES games to say "stroll around" rather than "wait" at the prompt, it would make the pc looking like a lonely mad man but it would make more sense.
 
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Drakortha

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It looks like Sex in Baldur's Gate 3 has caught mainstream attention. This will hopefully bring a lot of much deserved attention to this game and help with pre-order sales. You know what they say about Sex, "Sex Doesn't Sell". So Larian was very brave to go against the grain by presenting this as a main feature for BG3. But I'm glad to see the risk might pay off. Go Larian!
 
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fantadomat

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It looks like Sex in Baldur's Gate 3 has caught mainstream attention. This will hopefully bring a lot of much deserved attention to this game and help with pre-order sales. You know what they say about Sex, "Sex Doesn't Sell". So Larian was very brave to go against the grain by presenting this as a main feature for BG3. But I'm glad to see the risk might pay off. Go Larian!

:whatho:
Why the fuck is butthurt pendeho not fat any-more,did i shift universe or something???????
 

Storyfag

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Day/night cycle without it causing a major change in the gameworld is immersion breaking. I'd expect new monsters to come out at night, people lock up shop and go home, undead to be weaker during the day, roosters to crow at dawn, etc.,
If it's just visual then it's even worse than simply not having it.
There is some truth in what you said, though I would say having to wait several hours on street just for a shop to open is far more immersion breaking. Yes you can try to go to an inn every night but that gets old really fast, especially with the horrible load time in many modern games.
Which is why e.g., beth games have the option to just wait in once place for a set amount of time
Ah, but that is exactly what I said, the "waiting" function is immersion breaking. "Resting" is fine, I can picture my pc chilling in a camp or sleeping in a bed, but "waiting"? Realistically just waiting for half an hour with nothing to do would drive a man insane, let alone several straight hours on a street at night for no greater reason than selling your loot at the blacksmith, as far as i know most fantasy settings don't have smartphones.
You know what, I'm gonna mod my TES games to say "stroll around" rather than "wait" at the prompt, it would make the pc looking like a lonely mad man but it would make more sense.

That... actualy isn't a bad idea. "Waiting" should ideally result in extremely minor encounters designed in the vein of PFK's book episodes.

While we're at it, your camp should take a bit longer to set up, but should persist on the spot until you decide to dismantle it.
 

Iluvcheezcake

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and Kingmaker
Kingmaker has day and night, but there's no "cycle". The night is just a day with a darker color palette. There are a couple of quests where you have to do something at a specific hour of the day, but it's not like the quest takes a different route if you act before or after that hour: it's simply not there. If there's no difference between how quests progress if you act during the day or during the night, what's the point of having that cycle to begin with?

A proper day/night cycle would be cool, but what's the point of implementing it if there's no content that relies on it and it's just a shallow paintover?

A proper day/night cycle would mean going to bed at a reasonable hour, getting up at the crack of dawn, etc.

IOW, if you're going to have a day/night cycle for the sake of "realism" then you have to have a mechanic whereby your little heroes get tired, their performance degrades if they can't sleep, and they can only push themselves awake through a night now and then (e.g. maybe in a dungeon they might have to press on through the night, or on some tricky part of the journey through the country).
do you mean like fatigue in kingmaker

Yep, something like that.

Actually PFK has "spoiled" me on a few things. Their implementation of map travel (with fatigue) is the best yet in a modern CRPG, and the campfire sequences are a step in the right direction as well. Their storybook sequences are great too, and offer quite a lot of room for those skills that are less used in combat gameplay to get a chance to be useful.

Going forward, I'm going to be less happy with CRPGs that don't have that level of immersive detail.

And they could be refined further too, with more consequences to the day/night cycle, more of a sense of the time changing (the little semicircle at the top that changes from day to night is a great visual aid, but it could all be enhanced a bit). Random encounters could be refined, etc., etc.
The implementation of map travel is stolen from Realms of Arkania, everyone knows that

Imitation is the best form of flattery. Map travel and music in RoA 1 and 2 was amazing!
 

Takamori

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It looks like Sex in Baldur's Gate 3 has caught mainstream attention. This will hopefully bring a lot of much deserved attention to this game and help with pre-order sales. You know what they say about Sex, "Sex Doesn't Sell". So Larian was very brave to go against the grain by presenting this as a main feature for BG3. But I'm glad to see the risk might pay off. Go Larian!

:whatho:
Why the fuck is butthurt pendeho not fat any-more,did i shift universe or something???????

You either hold the fork or die of diabetus and other fat fuck diseases. Maybe the doctor told him to hold the tacos and he finally got the message.
 

Lacrymas

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I doubt it. Mainsteam games (even those made in Europe) are distractingly ashamed of sex wherever such may arise. That is what makes it cringe-y and unnecessary. Why are you showing me this if you are going to be coy about it? I.e. Baldur's Gate 3 won't be a better porn game, lol.
 

fantadomat

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I doubt it. Mainsteam games (even those made in Europe) are distractingly ashamed of sex wherever such may arise. That is what makes it cringe-y and unnecessary. Why are you showing me this if you are going to be coy about it? I.e. Baldur's Gate 3 won't be a better porn game, lol.
Swen is modern day globohomofag from swamp germany.....i am sure that the most polished aspect of the game will be the cucking mechanics. You will chose the pose and the some ork will fuck your wifu or something lol.
 

Cnaiur

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I doubt it. Mainsteam games (even those made in Europe) are distractingly ashamed of sex wherever such may arise. That is what makes it cringe-y and unnecessary. Why are you showing me this if you are going to be coy about it? I.e. Baldur's Gate 3 won't be a better porn game, lol.
Swen is modern day globohomofag from swamp germany.....i am sure that the most polished aspect of the game will be the cucking mechanics. You will chose the pose and the some ork will fuck your wifu or something lol.
BELGIUM, MOTHERFUCKER.
 

Ulysa

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See? this is what actually disturbs me. Look at all the maneuvers to draw attention, name this BG3, sex update, twitch thingy... can't you just make a good game, let people buy it because is good and shut the fuck up? Is that so difficult?
 

Bara

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Huge budgets require even more outrageous returns which means throwing the kitchen sink at marketing and hitting ever possible note you can to drum up hype and attention.

You cant just make a good game unless your willing to take a loss and with these budgets no one would dare to. You have to do everything possible to make people want it.
 

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See? this is what actually disturbs me. Look at all the maneuvers to draw attention, name this BG3, sex update, twitch thingy... can't you just make a good game, let people buy it because is good and shut the fuck up? Is that so difficult?
larian is incapable and incompetent so they have to resort to things like this. The worst part is it will work because degenerates and cultists are enough to make this game sell.
 

fantadomat

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I doubt it. Mainsteam games (even those made in Europe) are distractingly ashamed of sex wherever such may arise. That is what makes it cringe-y and unnecessary. Why are you showing me this if you are going to be coy about it? I.e. Baldur's Gate 3 won't be a better porn game, lol.
Swen is modern day globohomofag from swamp germany.....i am sure that the most polished aspect of the game will be the cucking mechanics. You will chose the pose and the some ork will fuck your wifu or something lol.
BELGIUM, MOTHERFUCKER.
Ahhh all the pseudo countries in that region are swamp germany/france.
 

Swen

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I doubt it. Mainsteam games (even those made in Europe) are distractingly ashamed of sex wherever such may arise. That is what makes it cringe-y and unnecessary. Why are you showing me this if you are going to be coy about it? I.e. Baldur's Gate 3 won't be a better porn game, lol.
Swen is modern day globohomofag from swamp germany.....i am sure that the most polished aspect of the game will be the cucking mechanics. You will chose the pose and the some ork will fuck your wifu or something lol.
BELGIUM, MOTHERFUCKER.
Ahhh all the pseudo countries in that region are swamp germany/france.
Damn bro you got some good dance moves

 

Shrimp

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I'm just waiting for a game which is to games what Deep Throat was to movies.
Well we live in a strange world,where a porn game like subverse looks like a better rpg than bg3,and bg3 looking like a better porn game than subverse......
:avatard:
Is Subverse anywhere close to finishing though?
Neither is BG3. We're probably looking at at least one year worth of EA before its actual release. I wouldn't even be surprised if it gets pushed to 2022.
 

Takamori

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If it follow Divinity 2 procedure, 1 year.
So it going to release around 30th September 2021- 6th October
 

Gargaune

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If it follow Divinity 2 procedure, 1 year.
So it going to release around 30th September 2021- 6th October
Oh, bollocks to that then. So WotC were reportedly opposed to Kickstarters for fear of tarnishing the D&D brand, but gerrymandering the game in public for a year counts as prestigious business proceedings? Eh, whatever.
 

Voids

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Does anyone every saunter over to Larian's forums? There are a few BG fans in attendance but mostly it's a lot of people hoping that it becomes DOS3. Given that Larian has said that they pay attention to what fans want in their forums that's pretty damn discouraging.
 

InD_ImaginE

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See? this is what actually disturbs me. Look at all the maneuvers to draw attention, name this BG3, sex update, twitch thingy... can't you just make a good game, let people buy it because is good and shut the fuck up? Is that so difficult?

No, because Larian knows exactly the player base they are targetting with this game. They are targetting new D&D fans that loves Critical Role on Twitch, co-op enthusiast of DOS2, and combination of both.
 

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