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[rusty_shackleford]

And here's proof that Minsc wasn't fucking petrified. Unless he is 9 foot tall.

Spoiler

it can easily be explained by being magic

 

[Joseph Stalin]

And here's proof that Minsc wasn't fucking petrified. Unless he is 9 foot tall.

Spoiler

it can easily be explained by being magic

No. "A Murder in Baldur's Gate" explicitly states that a wealthy merchant commissioned the statue.

 

[Lacrymas]

Joseph Stalin I'm pretty sure there are disputes about the canonicity of the novels? I know you talked to WotC about it, but did they say they are non-canon? Also, are these the names of the people who traveled with CHARNAME or are these just names which were mentioned/had a role somewhere in canon? Is Siege of Dragonspear canon? If it is, Skie must also exist.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

And here's proof that Minsc wasn't fucking petrified. Unless he is 9 foot tall.

Spoiler

it can easily be explained by being magic

No. "A Murder in Baldur's Gate" explicitly states that a wealthy merchant commissioned the statue.

Weren't you the one that said that book is non-canon?
Also, they lied. It was magic.

 

[Joseph Stalin]

Joseph Stalin I'm pretty sure there are disputes about the canonicity of the novels? I know you talked to WotC about it, but did they say they are non-canon? Also, are these the names of the people who traveled with CHARNAME or are these just names which were mentioned/had a role somewhere in canon?

WotC have explicitly removed the novels from canon. Even the fucking wiki finally got a message from them and did the same. As to the list - the sources are "Legends of Baldur's Gate", where Minsc, Neera, and Coran are explicitly stated to be travelling companions. The rest is from "Heroes of Baldur's Gate", also stated as companions to "Gorion's Ward".

 

[Joseph Stalin]

And here's proof that Minsc wasn't fucking petrified. Unless he is 9 foot tall.

Spoiler

it can easily be explained by being magic

No. "A Murder in Baldur's Gate" explicitly states that a wealthy merchant commissioned the statue.

Weren't you the one that said that book is non-canon?
Also, they lied. It was magic.

No, I said that the canonicity of that book is in question, since it was obviously written before WotC decided to revive the franchise. As to the "it was petrification magic" - that was a retarded idea introduced by "Descent into Avernus" - a fact which clashes with every other source. Even the comics hint that Minsc isn't the real deal (a witch states that she "know exactly who he is" in a context which isn't supposed to be pleasant.

 

[Delterius]

he was petrified under the effects of enlarge person

m a g i c

 

[Lacrymas]

WotC have explicitly removed the novels from canon. Even the fucking wiki finally got a message from them and did the same. As to the list - the sources are "Legends of Baldur's Gate", where Minsc, Neera, and Coran are explicitly stated to be travelling companions. The rest is from "Heroes of Baldur's Gate", also stated as companions to "Gorion's Ward".

Heroes of Baldur's Gate is very contradictory, though. Isn't Viconia an antagonist in there? Also, Xzar and Montaron are in there too.

 

[Joseph Stalin]

Heroes of Baldur's Gate is very contradictory, though. Isn't Viconia an antagonist in there? Also, Xzar and Montaron are in there too.

It's supposed to take place between Baldur's Gate and Shadows of Amn. You play a different character than CHARNAME. Siege of Dragonspear is, rightfully, completely ignored. And yes, some of the characters are (or can be, depending on your playthrough) antagonists.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

And here's proof that Minsc wasn't fucking petrified. Unless he is 9 foot tall.

Spoiler

it can easily be explained by being magic

No. "A Murder in Baldur's Gate" explicitly states that a wealthy merchant commissioned the statue.

Weren't you the one that said that book is non-canon?
Also, they lied. It was magic.

No, I said that the canonicity of that book is in question, since it was obviously written before WotC decided to revive the franchise. As to the "it was petrification magic" - that was a retarded idea introduced by "Descent into Avernus" - a fact which clashes with every other source. Even the comics hint that Minsc isn't the real deal (a witch states that she "know exactly who he is" in a context which isn't supposed to be pleasant.

Minsc is in the Neverwinter MMO, him being a statue is also part of his backstory. That also predates descent into avernus by about 5 years btw.
Speaking of which,

Btw, does Minsc having a statue as the "beloved ranger" mean he's canonically a part of the Bhaalspawn's party? Are the other "canon" members still canon?

I don't like being imposed a canon.

Viconia is also in Neverwinter meaning the romance is entirely non-canon.

 

[Joseph Stalin]

And here's proof that Minsc wasn't fucking petrified. Unless he is 9 foot tall.

Spoiler

it can easily be explained by being magic

No. "A Murder in Baldur's Gate" explicitly states that a wealthy merchant commissioned the statue.

Weren't you the one that said that book is non-canon?
Also, they lied. It was magic.

No, I said that the canonicity of that book is in question, since it was obviously written before WotC decided to revive the franchise. As to the "it was petrification magic" - that was a retarded idea introduced by "Descent into Avernus" - a fact which clashes with every other source. Even the comics hint that Minsc isn't the real deal (a witch states that she "know exactly who he is" in a context which isn't supposed to be pleasant.

Minsc is in the Neverwinter MMO, him being a statue is also part of his backstory. That also predates descent into avernus by about 5 years btw.
Speaking of which,

Btw, does Minsc having a statue as the "beloved ranger" mean he's canonically a part of the Bhaalspawn's party? Are the other "canon" members still canon?

I don't like being imposed a canon.

Viconia is also in Neverwinter meaning the romance is entirely non-canon.

Are the events presented in Neverwinter supposed to be canon? I believe I've read somewhere this is not the case.

 

[underground nymph]

Yes, you can throw people if your strength is high enough.

That bitch Nettie, should’ve thrown her straight into the gas chamber.

 

[NJClaw]

Neera

The rest is from "Heroes of Baldur's Gate",

Wait... Heroes of Baldur's Gate the 5E module? How can an unofficial module be considered canon?

 

[Joseph Stalin]

Neera

The rest is from "Heroes of Baldur's Gate",

Wait... Heroes of Baldur's Gate the 5E module? How can an unofficial module be considered canon?

Why do you think it's unofficial? It's a licensed adventure module, written by James Ohlen, the man behind the games. If anything, this is what Siege of Dragonspear should've been.

 

[Raghar]

If Minsc turns gay I'm refunding.

You can't refund that long after buying.

That's the peril of paying for unfinished product.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

And here's proof that Minsc wasn't fucking petrified. Unless he is 9 foot tall.

Spoiler

it can easily be explained by being magic

No. "A Murder in Baldur's Gate" explicitly states that a wealthy merchant commissioned the statue.

Weren't you the one that said that book is non-canon?
Also, they lied. It was magic.

No, I said that the canonicity of that book is in question, since it was obviously written before WotC decided to revive the franchise. As to the "it was petrification magic" - that was a retarded idea introduced by "Descent into Avernus" - a fact which clashes with every other source. Even the comics hint that Minsc isn't the real deal (a witch states that she "know exactly who he is" in a context which isn't supposed to be pleasant.

Minsc is in the Neverwinter MMO, him being a statue is also part of his backstory. That also predates descent into avernus by about 5 years btw.
Speaking of which,

Btw, does Minsc having a statue as the "beloved ranger" mean he's canonically a part of the Bhaalspawn's party? Are the other "canon" members still canon?

I don't like being imposed a canon.

Viconia is also in Neverwinter meaning the romance is entirely non-canon.

Are the events presented in Neverwinter supposed to be canon? I believe I've read somewhere this is not the case.

There's nothing to suggest it isn't canon.

 

[Joseph Stalin]

OK, did some digging. Neverwinter isn't canon. It takes place in 1470 DR. Minsc is "ressurrected" in the 1480/90s.

 

[NJClaw]

Why do you think it's unofficial? It's a licensed adventure module, written by James Ohlen, the man behind the games. If anything, this is what Siege of Dragonspear should've been.

Why do I think it's unofficial?

It's being sold through the DM Guild... it doesn't even have "Dungeons & Dragons" written on the front cover. It's not a D&D adventure, it's an adventure "for the world's greatest roleplaying game".

This is what an official module looks like:

This is what an unofficial module looks like, instead:

I'm not saying it CAN'T be canon, I just need serious proof before I can believe it.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

OK, did some digging. Neverwinter isn't canon. It takes place in 1470 DR. Minsc is "ressurrected" in the 1490s.

The first year of the game's plot is 1479. It's entirely canon.
Neverwinter, a WotC licensed product, is more canon than an unlicensed DM's guild book.

 

[Joseph Stalin]

Why do you think it's unofficial? It's a licensed adventure module, written by James Ohlen, the man behind the games. If anything, this is what Siege of Dragonspear should've been.

Why do I think it's unofficial?

It's being sold through the DM Guild... it doesn't even have "Dungeons & Dragons" written on the front cover. It's not a D&D adventure, it's an adventure "for the world's greatest roleplaying game".

This is what an official module looks like:

This is what an unofficial module looks like, instead:

I'm not saying it CAN'T be canon, I just need serious proof before I can believe it.

Are you serious. This is also an official module...

They all look different. God, some people are stupid.

 

[NJClaw]

OK, did some digging. Neverwinter isn't canon. It takes place in 1470 DR. Minsc is "ressurrected" in the 1490s.

The first year of the game's plot is 1479. It's entirely canon.
Neverwinter, a WotC licensed product, is more canon than an unlicensed DM's guild book.

I'm fairly sure there must be some sort of licensing involved in the making of Heroes of Baldur's Gate. I don't know to what extent, though.

 

[Lacrymas]

Since it's an official fifth edition product, using established lore and characters, and not based on the OGL, there's definitely some licensing involved. Maybe write to WotC and ask? Maybe just ask them to give you a list of canon material which pertains to Baldur's Gate and its characters?

 

[Joseph Stalin]

OK, did some digging. Neverwinter isn't canon. It takes place in 1470 DR. Minsc is "ressurrected" in the 1490s.

The first year of the game's plot is 1479. It's entirely canon.
Neverwinter, a WotC licensed product, is more canon than an unlicensed DM's guild book.

Abdel Adrian's death is 1482 DR. Minsc is brought back to life after those events. Elturel is dragged into Hell in 1494. So no matter which point you pick, he comes back after the MMO takes place.

 

[Horvatii]

omg you pathetic neckbeards, who gives a fuck about your goddamn fucking bladder gays and your fucking minscs and your fucking dnd and the holylol novels and and and, fuck me is this sad
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[Horvatii]

168 pages.................. why am i clicking this