SpellForce 3 Reforced + Soul Harvest & Fallen God standalone expansions

[Lacrymas]

Thanks, I will consider playing 1 though I was specifically asking about Spellforce 3, as I see there is the main game, and also two standalone expansions. Which of those would you recommend?

Pretty sure it's "quote unquote", btw.

Start with 3 if you want only to play this and its expansions. And you are right, I've never seen this written and somehow assumed it's quote on quote lol.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

Which of the Spellforce 3 games would Codex bros recommend to someone completely new to the series?

Others would recommend 3, but I say 1 for certain reasons. 3 is the most straightforwardly playable and quote on quote "the best", but 1 is more unique. Which is why you should start at 1, so you don't get spoiled by 3.

Thanks, I will consider playing 1 though I was specifically asking about Spellforce 3, as I see there is the main game, and also two standalone expansions. Which of those would you recommend?

Pretty sure it's "quote unquote", btw.

Just started the latest expansion so I couldn't pronounce myself on it, but the base game and Soul Harvest are worth it.

 

[Parabalus]

Gave in and got it, feels super polished and better than both base game and SH so far.

The trolls are absolutely hilarious.

 

[Whisper]

How is Fallen god, it is boring or good?

 

[Lacrymas]

How is Fallen god, it is boring or good?

Literally the post before yours -

Gave in and got it, feels super polished and better than both base game and SH so far.

The trolls are absolutely hilarious.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

Death through superior fire manpower.

Am I the only one whose playstyle in SP RTSs is to hoard resources and build a greater army than is needed just to make sure that I overwhelm the enemy on the first try?

 

[krilcebre]

Am I the only one whose playstyle in SP RTSs is to hoard resources and build a greater army than is needed just to make sure that I overwhelm the enemy on the first try?

I always did that, since the AoE1 or whatever RTS I played as a kid.

Any recommendations for Akrog's skill tree?

 

[Heroic Liberator]

Am I the only one whose playstyle in SP RTSs is to hoard resources and build a greater army than is needed just to make sure that I overwhelm the enemy on the first try?

I always did that, since the AoE1 or whatever RTS I played as a kid.

Any recommendations for Akrog's skill tree?

In my case I'm just going for a sturdier DPS build. Works fine thus far:

In other news, at least 2 of the companions have abilities which are needed in order to unlock certain areas of the map. Wonder if we'll be stuck with the same 3 companions for the whole game then.

Edit: All three of them do. Will post an update if I find any new companions.

 

[Parabalus]

Death through superior fire manpower.

Am I the only one whose playstyle in SP RTSs is to hoard resources and build a greater army than is needed just to make sure that I overwhelm the enemy on the first try?

Usually I try to just get as much as possible done with the 4 heroes, probably a bad habit.
Probably ends up being slower in the end.

The time limits are a nice touch, wonder how they tie in to the rebellious Nebrok.

Any recommendations for Akrog's skill tree?

I took blood and seems pretty ok, hard to summon multiple spirits though.
The synergies not being viewable from chargen is a big oversight.

 

[krilcebre]

Any recommendations for Akrog's skill tree?

I took blood and seems pretty ok, hard to summon multiple spirits though.
The synergies not being viewable from chargen is a big oversight.

Oh man, that's why I was asking, I don't know why they didn't put it in the menu, as it's kinda crucial for making a build you'll actually like playing. I was thinking of going with the hurler, as I kind of like the idea of a huge ass troll throwing things, since I kind of grew tired of the generic melee classes. Blood sounds fun too tho.

 

[Parabalus]

Any recommendations for Akrog's skill tree?

I took blood and seems pretty ok, hard to summon multiple spirits though.
The synergies not being viewable from chargen is a big oversight.

Oh man, that's why I was asking, I don't know why they didn't put it in the menu, as it's kinda crucial for making a build you'll actually like playing. I was thinking of going with the hurler, as I kind of like the idea of a huge ass troll throwing things, since I kind of grew tired of the generic melee classes. Blood sounds fun too tho.

Someone compiled them on steam

I have tested all the combinations and these are the results:

AKROG:

• Blood + Spirit: Moon Spirit Revenge(When a Moon Spirit dies, it causes AoE Damage + Weakness and Heal + Regen)
  
  
• Crush + Spirit: Hold The Ground(Just like Ranged + Defense Synergy from SH)
  
  
• Elemental + Spirit: Elemental Chieftain(Melee attacks reduce cooldowns by 1s and give Ice / Fire Might ; Moon Spirit gains Magical Retaliation)
  
  
• Gloom + Spirit: Moon Spirit Hex(When a Moon Spirit dies, it causes AoE Damage + CC, including Stasis at level 3)
  
  
• Hurl + Spirit: Chosen Enemy(Cause Spirit AND Chieftain's Mark on Ranged attacks and when attacked)
  
  
• Nature + Spirit: Blast the Marked(Cause Damage to Spirit Marked enemies ; 33%)

GRUNGWAR:

• Blood + Elder: Hungry Totem(Life Leech Totem)
  
  
• Crush + Elder: Totem Backlash(Retaliation when close to a Totem)
  
  
• Elemental + Elder: Meteor Shower(Just like Ele + Druid in SH)
  
  
• Gloom + Elder: Hex Shield Totem(Magic Res Totem ; also causes Silence when it ends)
  
  
• Hurl + Elder: Return Hex(Gives back 5 Focus on Ranged Attack ; 20 -> 50% chance)
  
  
• Nature + Elder: Blessed Hex(+10-20% Power for Nature and Summon abilities)

ZAZKA:

• Blood + Worm: Worms(Channeled AoE DoT)
  
  
• Crush + Worm: Flashboom(Just like that AoE CC skill Beguile started with in SH)
  
  
• Elemental + Worm: Power from Dead(Restore 25-50% Focus ; cost: 1 Ingredient)
  
  
• Gloom + Worm: Corpse Gas(Corpse based AoE CC + Health / Focus Regen)
  
  
• Hurl + Worm: Plague(Just like Plague aka Black + Druid in SH)
  
  
• Nature + Worm: Fire Fungus(AoE Dmg Retaliation ; can trigger multiple times, up to 6x ; dmg type: 0,33 Physical + 0,66 Magical)

I went with Blood, Hurl on zazka and Nature on the Elderfur, seemed very vanilla and thematic.

Hard to know what's "strong" in advance, since items modify it a lot - I thought my Zazka was trash, until I crafted a spear which summons animals on hit.

Elemental Chieftain seems very good though.

 

[Rinslin Merwind]

Oh man, that's why I was asking, I don't know why they didn't put it in the menu, as it's kinda crucial for making a build you'll actually like playing. I was thinking of going with the hurler, as I kind of like the idea of a huge ass troll throwing things, since I kind of grew tired of the generic melee classes. Blood sounds fun too tho.

Funny enough, I am playing Akrog hurler right now and it's fine (I think). At least on normal (you need to specify on what difficulty you are playing, btw).
Using Gift of spirits, Chosen enemy and mark of the chieftain. In hurl tree I went for axes (you need to know btw that throwing axes are two-handed weapon and strength based), and skills : Deadly throw, sharpened hack-sticks and booming hack-sticks (this one I have doubts, because if ranged character ends up surrounded by enemies - something went wrong, so I thinking to switch it on Booming throw).

Edit: And yes, it's bad that game does not show synergies during character creation.

 

[Parabalus]

Just ran into a John Wick easter egg, what a game.

 

[Rinslin Merwind]

Just ran into a John Wick easter egg, what a game.

I saw LoTR easter egg and Star Wars easter egg (from original trilogy), caught me by surprise.

 

[Lacrymas]

The entire franchise is a LotR easter egg.

 

[Lacrymas]

It seems like nobody has read my retrospective. Spellforce 1 exudes LotR vibes from the cover alone, but doesn't really have anything to do with it narrative-wise, i.e. LotR easter egg. That's naturally continued to the rest of the franchise.

 

[Rinslin Merwind]

"Zazka likes sand not. It is coarse and rough and irritating and gets everywhere." (c) Zazka Small-Tusk



I think someone really had fun with writing dialogues.

 

[Parabalus]

On the crabshit map the references are almost too in your face to be called easter eggs.

Definitely seems like they had a lot of fun making this game.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

Comedic lightheartedness done right.

Spoiler

 

[Lacrymas]

I did the follow-up Farlonsheim mission and I liked how they reused that map after coming back from the orcs. The mission objective markers were pretty noticeable though, it has the same problem Skyrim has; the NPCs don't give you enough directions in order to find the mission objectives, so you can't really turn them off unless you want to aimlessly wander the (big) map for no reason. I'm kinda hoping the "save the captured militia" sidequest has a pay-off in the next map with the Red Falcons, because the extra units were kinda pointless during the caravan escape. Yes, I'm avoiding the elves for last because... elves. Do you *have* to get all the races actually? I can continue on with the main quest without having humans or elves available.

I'm still impressed with the map engine, they should lend it to Owlcat in order for them to make a map of adequate size once in their lifetimes. I'd say to Obsidian as well, but I doubt they'll be making another isometric RPG any time soon.

Also, is there a way to check what upgrades to units and buildings you already have?

 

[ArchAngel]

I am really enjoying the whole Spellforce 3 series and this latest expansion is still lot of fun. As both RTS and RPG these have been one of the best and most fun games in a long time.
And voice acting is one of the best overall.

 

[fantadomat]

map engine

As i said many times,their engine is amazing. It delivers really high fidelity and quantity while being very well optimized. I was surprised at how well it runs. The big city from the vanilla is a good example of it,great map.

 

[ArchAngel]

The Pig and the brother are hilarious. And voice actors are also very good.

 

[Parabalus]

Game is really good, very refreshing. I wonder how Noag's personality will tie into the ending.

Did a better RPG even come out this year?

 

[vazha]

I remember in Spellforce I and its expansions it was possible to "solo" the game with your party if you min-maxed them well enough, foregoing the rts base building schtick almost completely. Is this still possible?