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Cyberpunk 2077 Pre-Release Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

Preben

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That's not correct. It's not that all people experience same bugs. Bugs arise mostly from weird interactions between hardware components and/or between the game itself and other software. It's physically impossible to test the game in all possible hardware and software configurations. To give an example: your operating system 'translates' the game code into machine code and passes it to harware componens to execute. But every version of OS does it a bit differently and every hardware component interprets the machine code also a bit differently. Then add to the mix also exchanges between hardware, all passed through hardware and software channels. This growths into mindboggling number of possible variants.

That is holla lot of nothing but fanboy air. I have news for you 90% of games release mostly without in your face bugs. CDPR isn't anymore small indie studio. They are incredibly loaded with cash and they could afford extensive QA and bugfixing period which btw would probably help them get better scores and sell truckload of more copies.

Lol, what a confirmation bias. I haven't even bought this game yet. Gonna wait till it's fixed or even I'll wait for a "GOTY edition" like I did with Witcher 3, will all the DLC included for complete experience.

The truth is, no matter how many betatesters you hire, you can't replicate results from all possible configurations.
 

Hellraiser

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There are. Back in 2016 they amended the company's statute to prevent a takeover. As of now, no new investors can go above 20% unless they all-out buy shares all other investors at the same time. Which means that an insane amount of money would have to be put on table to make such offer viable.

What about changing the board and execs though? They did any changes to the statute as well or is there a risk of the free float shareholders forming a majority to do a coup? I barely remember anything from corporate law, so I don't know if they have any legal options for that at all.
 

Preben

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There are. Back in 2016 they amended the company's statute to prevent a takeover. As of now, no new investors can go above 20% unless they all-out buy shares all other investors at the same time. Which means that an insane amount of money would have to be put on table to make such offer viable.

What about changing the board and execs though? They did any changes to the statute as well or is there a risk of the free float shareholders forming a majority to do a coup? I barely remember anything from corporate law, so I don't know if they have any legal options for that at all.

No idea. You'd have to read through their current corpo documents to know that. Assuming there aren't any weird-ass restriction, free-floating shares can stage a coup. That's pretty unlikely though.
 
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So are crowd density sliders confirmed on PC then? Last time I checked that wasn't option in the settings offered. So much coping in this thread, now IT'S JUST ON CONSOLE, then it will be, THEY WILL RELEASE A PATCH or something else. So much buyer's remorse already and the game isn't even fucking out yet.

mrmattyplays on youtube says there is a crowd density setting. low/med/high. he played on pc
:lol:

Dont ever quote me or the bull that fucks my wife again
 

Preben

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From what I see, there are just two reasons for negative comments/reviews.
1. Bugs, which is something that will be stamped out pretty soon.
2. Muh identity politics, which is insufferable even for my left-leaning (in codexer terms) ass. Fucking game is set in a dystopia and these people want pandering for their pet issues.

Unironically looks like a great game.
 
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TheHeroOfTime

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There's a lot of (female) journos and influencers mad because the game sexualizes a lot of more women than men, and I don't get it.

In my view the key dichotomy of the Cyberpunk genre has always been the contrast between a very technologically advanced society vs a putrid society in terms of principles and morality. In such society, no matter how much it was in a dystopian future, there would be sexism, racism and other types of discrimination. So the fact that there are many more sexualized women in commercials or in the form of prostitutes in the game fits the setting and theme after all. In the same way there will be racism, for example, the inhabitants of Night city rejecting those of the outer desert. I understand that if you are a woman or if you are someone who likes men, you can raise an eyebrow when you see that practically all sexual content is aimed at a male and heterosexual audience (And with money) ... but I think that is the goal. Showing an extremely corrupt and rotten society, in which there is voracious consumerism and all kinds of discriminations encouraged by megacorporations that are only interested in their own benefit and control. To show that despite the fact that a lot of progress has been made in terms technology, there has been even more backwardness in other issues. The future does not mean getting better for the mere fact of being the future. As Mike Pondsmith said, "Cyberpunk is a warning, not an aspiration."
 
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There's a lot of (female) journos and influencers mad because the game sexualizes a lot of more women than men, and I don't get it.

In my view the key dichotomy of the Cyberpunk genre has always been the contrast between a very technologically advanced society vs a putrid society in terms of principles and morality. In such society, no matter how much it was in a dystopian future, there would be sexism, racism and other types of discrimination. So the fact that there are many more sexualized women in commercials or in the form of prostitutes in the game fits the setting and theme after all. In the same way there will be racism, for example, the inhabitants of Night city rejecting those of the outer desert. I understand that if you are a woman or if you are someone who likes men, you can raise an eyebrow when you see that practically all sexual content is aimed at a male and heterosexual audience (And with money) ... but I think that is the goal. Showing an extremely corrupt and rotten society, in which there is voracious consumerism and all kinds of discriminations encouraged by megacorporations that are only interested in their own benefit and control. To show that despite the fact that a lot of progress has been made in terms technology, there has been even more backwardness in other issues. The future does not mean getting better for the mere fact of being the future. As Mike Pondsmith said, "Cyberpunk is a warning, not an aspiration."
somehow newer generations mistook Cyberpunk (as a genre) for utopia, rather than the dystopia it always was meant to be.
 

Zer0wing

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Smoll peenors.
This gives me depressing "bro wake up it's 2000s again" vibe. Why did you post this to illustrate your distasteful joke?
:badnews:
Are you grieving for your wasted youth? Dont worry we are all in the same boat.
Nope, just what's around me and you all. Jokes on you, I'm still young. Enough young to hold on or offload semen several times a day. (though it's a useless skill for now since those times aren't pussies:negative:)
 

eilef

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They are literally complaining in reviews that "trans" rights are not represented correctly. That main character cannot identify as a "non-binary". These journalists are a joke. They are going to try spark some outrage, but i guess it will just die down like "why no black people in Witcher 3" stuff.


Game is looking to be decent after 5-10 patches. A lot of things still needs to be improved, or reworked, like junky UI. If anyone remembers Witcher 3 (or Witcher 1), you know you have to wait.
 

Preben

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There's a lot of (female) journos and influencers mad because the game sexualizes a lot of more women than men, and I don't get it.

In my view the key dichotomy of the Cyberpunk genre has always been the contrast between a very technologically advanced society vs a putrid society in terms of principles and morality. In such society, no matter how much it was in a dystopian future, there would be sexism, racism and other types of discrimination. So the fact that there are many more sexualized women in commercials or in the form of prostitutes in the game fits the setting and theme after all. In the same way there will be racism, for example, the inhabitants of Night city rejecting those of the outer desert. I understand that if you are a woman or if you are someone who likes men, you can raise an eyebrow when you see that practically all sexual content is aimed at a male and heterosexual audience (And with money) ... but I think that is the goal. Showing an extremely corrupt and rotten society, in which there is voracious consumerism and all kinds of discriminations encouraged by megacorporations that are only interested in their own benefit and control. To show that despite the fact that a lot of progress has been made in terms technology, there has been even more backwardness in other issues. The future does not mean getting better for the mere fact of being the future. As Mike Pondsmith said, "Cyberpunk is a warning, not an aspiration."
somehow newer generations mistook Cyberpunk (as a genre) for utopia, rather than the dystopia it always was meant to be.

Difficult words, but sounding similar. Must mean the same.
 

Tehdagah

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ChildInTime

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I wonder what heads of CDPR were thinking ? I mean they already delayed game twice. They knew perfectly well about those bugs. Pushing it to say april and iron out 99% of those bugs would spare them troubles they are in now.

When Kingdom Come released buggy and people were saying "you should've taken a few more months", Vavra clearly said that's a fallacy. At some point your Q&A reaches a limit of what they can discover. Only when you turn the game over to the rest of the world and millions of people start to play you'll start finding all the cracks and holes your 100 people strong Q&A didn't see or couldn't replicate.

Yeah, at some point devs just use players as free testers.

Sorry for everyone who suffered through the the first builds of my horrible porn games.
Your porn version of cyberpunk is pretty good though.
 

Derringer

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There are. Back in 2016 they amended the company's statute to prevent a takeover. As of now, no new investors can go above 20% unless they all-out buy shares all other investors at the same time. Which means that an insane amount of money would have to be put on table to make such offer viable.
I'm surprised they attempted to even bother trying to keep control of the company, not to say that some stockholder couldn't just make up a bunch of different personas to buy up the rest of that stock if they have the cash to do it.
 

Tyranicon

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I wonder what heads of CDPR were thinking ? I mean they already delayed game twice. They knew perfectly well about those bugs. Pushing it to say april and iron out 99% of those bugs would spare them troubles they are in now.

When Kingdom Come released buggy and people were saying "you should've taken a few more months", Vavra clearly said that's a fallacy. At some point your Q&A reaches a limit of what they can discover. Only when you turn the game over to the rest of the world and millions of people start to play you'll start finding all the cracks and holes your 100 people strong Q&A didn't see or couldn't replicate.

Yeah, at some point devs just use players as free testers.

Sorry for everyone who suffered through the the first builds of my horrible porn games.
Your porn version of cyberpunk is pretty good though.

I dunno if that's sarcasm but I'll take praise where I can. I try hard at my shitty games.
 

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