CD Projekt's Cyberpunk 2077 Update 2.0 + Phantom Liberty Expansion Thread

[Turjan]

"replication crisis"

What?

The wonders of statistics and how to abuse them. Especially obvious in social sciences, economics and medical sciences with their by the numbers studies.

 

[gurugeorge]

"replication crisis"

What?

It's a thing, been going on for decades, started in the soft sciences, now even spreading to STEM somewhat.

Most likely a function of increasing "diversity" and sclerotic ideological totalitarianism.

 

[Tyranicon]

Honestly, the 50-year technological stasis is hilarious and never really adequately explained, unless it's an ending thing. I'm not going to finish this game in its current state, I'm just not going to put myself through that.

1969 - Man lands on the moon
2020 - We can barely make it into earth orbit

1954 - First nuclear power plant on the grid
2022 - Germany decomissions all nuclear power plants to replace them with coal power plants

Yeah, going back to politics for a bit, devolution is a fact. e.g. materials science has been stagnant for decades, apparently, and probably most of us here are aware of the "replication crisis" in the softer sciences (psychology, sociology, etc.). I don't think this was at all inevitable, but that's another story ...

When your setting has AI for 50 years and they sit on their asses doing nothing (and relatively powerful AI at that, being that the ones we see are general intelligence and above).

Cyberpunk truly is expanding the frontier of transhumanism.

 

[Fenix]

Some datamining.

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DLC+weather system.

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Apartamet tuning and something about combat car AI?


Also, creepy sheit.

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Wannabe major killer cyberpsycho to the rigth.
Connection to Sandra/Peralez quest?
I think that's the best part of the game, really interesting. Main quest is boring shit.

 

[Fenix]

"replication crisis"

What?

It's a thing, been going on for decades, started in the soft sciences, now even spreading to STEM somewhat.

Most likely a function of increasing "diversity" and sclerotic ideological totalitarianism.

Ah, you about this.

 

[Wunderbar]

Only on codex:

- I finished VTMB at launch best game ever 10/10
- Arcanum is my favorite game ever 10/10
- Nev Vegas grew on me 10/10
- Cyberpunk is buggy mess!

except VTMB, Arcanum and FNV weren't made by a thousand devs with an 8 years of dev cycle and a $300M budget.

 

[Tyranicon]

Only on codex:

- I finished VTMB at launch best game ever 10/10
- Arcanum is my favorite game ever 10/10
- Nev Vegas grew on me 10/10
- Cyberpunk is buggy mess!

except VTMB, Arcanum and FNV weren't made by a thousand devs with an 8 years of dev cycle and a $300M budget.

Also, not to beat a dead fucking horse, but those were RPGS. CP2077 is, straight from the dev's mouth, an open-world, action-adventure.

RPGcodex hates a buggy, unfinished non-rpg:

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[TheHeroOfTime]

Well, Bloodlines was a quite ambitious project back then. It uses the Source engine and in some areas is super impressive, like facial animations. It came out unfinished and with a pletora of bugs, but definitelitvely wasn't a low budget game. On the other hand New vegas was supposed to be a cheap side-quick, Bethesda did not pay Obsidian their bonus due to not reaching enough score in whatevercritic.

 

[Koolz]

Don't you worry Rand Corp has you covered on Cyberpunk end. No sweat!
https://futurecomresearch.eu/previous/2017/site_pres/K/IAN_Akyildiz.pdf

by the way it is Rand that has created the cell phone, windows, processor, internet, so many many other things.

Always lurking in the shadows waiting to turn you into a robot hooked up to the internet.

 

[Koolz]

Rand and the Economic Forum Cyberpunk on Steroids!

The future will challenge our understanding of what it means to be human, from both a biological and a social standpoint. Emerging biotechnology agendas promise to improve and augment human lifespans and to enhance physical and mental health. The opportunity for the integration of digital technologies with biological tissues is also growing, and what that portends for the next decades is inspiring a range of emotions, from hope to wonder to fear. Optimists depict a more sustainable world, free from the diseases that we battle today. Pessimists warn of a dystopian future of designer babies and unequal access to the fruits of biotechnology.

 

[Yoomazir]

Some datamining.

Spoiler

Spoiler

DLC+weather system.

Spoiler

Spoiler

Apartamet tuning and something about combat car AI?


Also, creepy sheit.

Spoiler

Wannabe major killer cyberpsycho to the rigth.
Connection to Sandra/Peralez quest?
I think that'sthe best part of the game, really interesting. Main quest is boring shit.

*insert Dave Chapelle meme* Ya got more of that datamined stuff?

 

[Fenix]

I just got these I found when quickly look through the thread on 2ch.

 

[moon knight]

Also, not to beat a dead fucking horse, but those were RPGS. CP2077 is, straight from the dev's mouth, an open-world, action-adventure.

Open world, action-adventure story, is the definition they used.

They didn't even call it a game, they were super honest

 

[Keshik]

I see a lot of comparison to GTAV and this game no matter how buggy shits all over it. The only thing GTAV does better is small details like NPC AI and stuff like that, but as far as combat, story and everything else that matter goes Cyberpunk is way better

Well, one can compare the open world parts, the games are in different genres entirely. One would expect CP2077 to at least equal GTA V in those areas, given it's nearly 8 year advantage.

 

[Tyranicon]

I see a lot of comparison to GTAV and this game no matter how buggy shits all over it. The only thing GTAV does better is small details like NPC AI and stuff like that, but as far as combat, story and everything else that matter goes Cyberpunk is way better

Fucking lol.

 

[Fenix]

Someone knock out girls at/on streets and carry them home in a trunk of a car.
Sometimes they do disappper, sometimes they don't.

This could be quite a bomb for a twatter mouthbreaters.

 

[Abu Antar]

There should be 75% less gigs and blue missions, and then they should have just tried to make more involved side stuff in general. Some gigs have had the potential to be really cool, but they get to feel very samey. It's a shame that they stuck to the Ubisoft design, but I'm not surprised that they did.

One that WAS cool was the one where you have to go to a shrine outside the city and try not to get detected. There were a few more that were interesting, but there are to many similar things that you have to do.

When I get bored with my blades playing style, I change it up. On one mission, I went shotty only, double jumping over covers and one shotting enemies. Other times, I do hacking only, or assault rifle only. If there are missions that say "don't raise the alarm" or "don't get noticed", I try to do it pacifist style. Items could have been done better. The Witcher 3 all over again. Level scaling items is shit design.

I'm still in act 2 only, cleaning up the map. A 7/10 game is what this is. It's a shame that this game was in development hell. Aftr 30 hours, it really feels like they bit off more than they could chew. The city is nice, but it feels like everything else had to take a hit for it to work.

I'm curious to see how any possible DLC will turn out. They should be more focused experiences in smaller areas, with more focus on good mission design. The expansions of The Witcher 3 were batter than the main campaign, so there is a possibility.

I've had one crash on PS4, so far. A few bugs, but nothing major. The big one was that Jackie was stuck in a mission area and couldn't get out once the mission was over. A reload solved it. Other than that, I had a floating body that I had to carry in a gig, a car that was halfway down the ground and a corpse flying around when V and Jackie were talking in an elevator.

 

[potatojohn]

Somehow the Codex thinks Deus Ex, a gameplay-wise very boring totally linear FPS with token stats that improve your crosshair wobble and three whole cosmetic dialogue choices is the 8th best RPG of all time, but Cyberpunk 2077 is not just not an RPG, but not even a game.

 

[warpig]

Deus Ex is a fun game and Cyberpunk is an ubisoftcore borefest.

 

[moon knight]

Some datamining.

Spoiler

Spoiler

DLC+weather system.

Spoiler

Spoiler

Apartamet tuning and something about combat car AI?


Also, creepy sheit.

Spoiler

Wannabe major killer cyberpsycho to the rigth.
Connection to Sandra/Peralez quest?
I think that's the best part of the game, really interesting. Main quest is boring shit.

DLCs being gigs given by fixers, what a great idea. That will really integrate well with the urgency of the main quest

 

[DeepOcean]

DLCs being gigs given by fixers, what a great idea. That will really integrate well with the urgency of the main quest

With the way they ended the story, what options they have?

 

[moon knight]

DLCs being gigs given by fixers, what a great idea. That will really integrate well with the urgency of the main quest

With the way they ended the story, what options they have?

Different character. Maybe they could somehow fix the lack of C&C of the base game by having Vs actions affecting indirectly the story of this other character

 

[potatojohn]

Deus Ex is a fun game and Cyberpunk is an ubisoftcore borefest.

If you think Deus Ex is fun then you hate video games, because that game has seriously bad gameplay.

 

[Danikas]

Also, creepy sheit.

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Wannabe major killer cyberpsycho to the rigth.
Connection to Sandra/Peralez quest?
I think that's the best part of the game, really interesting. Main quest is boring shit.

You know who recommended V to the Peralez couple? Judy.....

 

[Semiurge]

Lot of references to the Beetles? Beetles were a creation of the Mi5 and CIA basically your typical Intel.

Hence if you look at the cover you will see many creations of Intel and those involved. 60s? Created by the Navy Intel along with CIA and Mi5. Same with Psychological Warfare as LSD, Horror Movies, and Beetles?

We all live in a Yellow Submarine. I am sure all of you already new this such smart fellows.

More like CP77 drew its Beatle references from the same source as the prestigious comic book "Invisibles". The very first story in it was called "Dead Beatles", and knowing what it was about it's safe to assume that it wasn't mainly about the fab four appearing as ghosts in it or even the author's love of the band, but about the significance of beetles, as symbols of rebirth. Consider the scarabs of ancient Egypt, for instance. Rebirth and immortality of the soul figure into Cyberpunk in the form of engrams among other things, don't they?

Ah, you about this.

Just how do they expect that groups that are by definition different, hence the split into demographic subgroups, can't produce different outcomes? But of course, the point of that is not that they couldn't, but that they shouldn't because it's against doctrine. Even logic is now bigotry.

Someone knock out girls at/on streets and carry them home in a trunk of a car.
Sometimes they do disappper, sometimes they don't.

This could be quite a bomb for a twatter mouthbreaters.

Wait, you can knock out random NPSs and bring them to your flat, and not all of them disappear afterwards? Can you strip them?