Gothic Gothic is fun

[toro]

beach

bitches

ok. restart time.

whoever implemented Alternate Balance is a retard - it just prolongues an already bad beginning and it slows leveling up up to a crawl

after a couple of hours ... i love the environment

howling inside my own head ...

i got this and then the game crashed and i had no save

ripperbeasts, wolf and orc having a pajama party ... love this shit

what do we have here !?

he walks funny ...

my first dragon in gothic3. i never reached this point before in the game ... hunting is starting to grow on me

someday ...

distance setting is not so good but at least the game doesn't stutters anymore ... almost enjoyable

i feel like i'm on the edge of enjoying the game. it's probably my first ranger build in long time but honestly i would do anything to avoid the fucking stunlock from boars and other beasts.

sorry for the long post. i'm trying to motivate myself not to abandon again.

 

[Avarize]

So what's the best version/mod/whatever to play Gothic 3 now?

 

[toro]

So what's the best version/mod/whatever to play Gothic 3 now?

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=922996693

Edit: I don't recommend to keep on Alternate Balance or to play on Hard difficulty.

The reasons are:

Alternate Balance will slow down leveling up: you will get less LP therefore you will have to specialize. The thing is the game was not designed for a min-max build therefore the changes to XP are tedious at best.

Hard Difficulty means that the mobs HP will get x4 and they will have better armor and you will waste more time to kill the same shit again and again.

Easy Difficulty is basically a walking simulator therefore I don't recommended but to my surprise the game is quite alright on Normal Difficulty. At lvl 25 I can kill goblins in 2 arrows and Trolls in 10 arrows therefore the game is not a walk in the park. I suspect that the ranger build is a semi-retarded build in this game but nevertheless I don't rolfstomp everything ... which I did not expect in a Gothic game.

Imho the best options for the game are: Cp 1.75, AI on, AB off, Normal difficulty.

Edit 2: Mandatory 4GB patch -> https://ntcore.com/?page_id=371

 

[Celeb]

I got really mad and I restarted in order to get Quick Learning asap (it took 2 hours or running around)

Haha, I remember doing the same thing. I made a list of merchants who have a chance to sell stone tablets and beelined to them. After gathering enough ancient knowledge I swam back to Ardea and went from there.

So, I have the character above but I cannot decide on which path to follow: melee sucks, ranger is somewhat ok, magic is boring.

I was playing a pure melee build and switched to magic after Myrthana (at the end of my journey, I had 400+ strength and 500+ ancient knowledge). I suggest you to do a similar thing - focus on archery and then swap to magic. The amount of monsters in Nordmar and Varant can drive people mad so mana regeneration skill and rain of fire spell help. The combination trivializes the combat but lets you focus on better aspects of the game.

 

[toro]

somebody was bored out of his mind ...

empty secret area

an act of digital vandalism

this is the exact moment when i decided to become a mage

demon foiled by high ground

seeing the desert for the first time was reinvigorating

me and my boys before attacking the orcs ...

note: they all died like little bitches, i had to kill all the orcs on my own

milten also know as the gay fire mage ... i never liked him

looks like a mountain's vagina ...

that looks like a preview for an end game area

i snapped. i honestly could not take it anymore.

went to Al Shedim temple, used console cheats to get the temple key, got Adanos Robe
went to Mora Sul temple, used console cheats to get temple keys, got Adanos crown
i already had all the other artefacts

xardas reduced to the status of an ineffective old man ... good job developers

i was right. this was really an end game area

i don't want to ever again install this piece of shit

got back to xardas and he told me to kill 2 more faggots

nope. i don't think i would do that. this is it. i'm done with this shit.


right now i hate this game with a passion. although i have to admit that some hours were well spent.

i don't understand how someone can create one of the best combat systems ever (at least at that time) and then completely scrape it for this game.

i think gothic formula is excellent for focused small stories like the one from the first game but i don't think copy-pasting that formula to 3 regions works as well.

gothic 1 and 2 are fun but not this one. i'm afraid to think about it but probably arcania is more fun that gothic 3.

 

[Baardhaas]

toro, Did you really play through the whole game being sick? Or is it just a coincidence that in every screenshot your stamina bar is grey?

 

[toro]

toro, Did you really play through the whole game being sick? Or is it just a coincidence that in every screenshot your stamina bar is grey?

yes. i think i was sick for the whole time

 

[Lord_Potato]

toro, Did you really play through the whole game being sick? Or is it just a coincidence that in every screenshot your stamina bar is grey?

yes. i think i was sick for the whole time

self-imposed hardcore mode!

 

[Tavar]

Seeing all these Gothic 3 screenshots in a "Gothic is fun" thread triggers me. Gothic 3 was never fun and should be forgotten.

 

[toro]

Seeing all these Gothic 3 screenshots in a "Gothic is fun" thread triggers me. Gothic 3 was never fun and should be forgotten.

Even if the game made me snap I would say that Gothic 3 is 25% fun and 75% dullness.

 

[Celeb]

Seeing all these Gothic 3 screenshots in a "Gothic is fun" thread triggers me. Gothic 3 was never fun and should be forgotten.

Feeling better?

 

[Murk]

My first time through G3 I didn't realize I was diseased either until I accidentally chugged a disease curing potion while in a long run only to realize that it's now restoring faster. I meant to take an endurance potion but misclicked... took me a few moments to realize I had been coofin' the whole time.

 

[HoboForEternity]

hijacking the thread so i could give some experience about gothic 3. finally played it with community patch 1.7.5 or something. content patch and quest pak. alternative AI yes, alternative balancing no.
combat, especially melee is horrendous, i specced into mage ASAP.

exploration feel less curated than gothic or 2, even ELEX, but overall world design is still good. some quests are still fetch/kill quests, but due from the implementation (aka the designated target of the quests usually are still unique batch of monsters or items 90% of the time) it is still better than for example Dragon age inquisition fetch quest. still no map marker but most of the areas and world are still well designed, though not up to usual PB standard.

the fun quests are still fun and exploring sometimes worth it but since most loot are randomly generated, it doesn't feel as tight as the first 2 gothic games. my biggest complain is probably how many enemies they throw you. near monterra, there is a ruined tower with like 100 goblins or something, i just use flame wave and kill them all but early on it was frustrating because it's a relatively weak enemy but they throw like a thousand of them at you. skill progression is still satisfying, coming from pseudo archer who climb rocks and kite enemies to finally having spells that let you handle enemy head on.

overall still decent game, but probably the 3rd worst PB game, only surpassed by risen 2 and 3. but even the worst PB game (risen 2) is still 6/10 for me

gothic 1 and NOTR : solid 9/10
ELEX and risen 8/10
gothic 3 : 7/10
Risen 2/3 : 6/10

 

[rusty_shackleford]

whoever implemented Alternate Balance is a retard - it just prolongues an already bad beginning and it slows leveling up up to a crawl

people really need to stop recommending it, it slows progress down to a crawl and makes you feel like you're never getting stronger

the bonus quest pack or whatever it's called is rather good btw

[edit]
make sure you turn the simulation radius up in the .ini too, makes the game feel a lot more alive rather than the tiny default

 

[Konjad]

Since you're sharing screenshots, here are my screenshots from my recent Gothic replay (no G2 because couldn't make screens with steam in that one):

 

[Konjad]

By the way, if you love Gothic 1&2 as well as Risens and want more, then I think Vendetta - Curse of the Raven's Cry feels quite close to them, and is also great, even if not as great as Gothics, but can easily compete with Risens.

Here are some screenshots I made in that game for you:

Spoiler

 

[Konjad]

Oh, and also my Gothic 3 replay screenshot:

 

[Celeb]

By the way, if you love Gothic 1&2 as well as Risens and want more, then I think Vendetta - Curse of the Raven's Cry feels quite close to them, and is also great, even if not as great as Gothics, but can easily compete with Risens.

I remember Raven's Cry being as buggy as Gothic 3 on release (maybe even worse but I am not certain). Is the game playable without mods now?

 

[JRIz]

By the way, if you love Gothic 1&2 as well as Risens and want more, then I think Vendetta - Curse of the Raven's Cry

I tried this game after your shilling and it is indeed quite good but I don't think it's very similar to the Gothics. I also didn't notice any bugs at first. Then I finally got my Man Of War (finding a seller was the main problem). I proceeded to do one of the treasure quests, descending from a large pyramid, slaughtering a village of natives and finding gruesome sacrificial sites, which was cool. But after returning, half of my ship's cannons and some other parts of the model had vanished for some reason even though the ship was fully repaired. The vanished cannons also couldn't be fired. That was a bit disappointing. It also sometimes happens that your ship is attacked by some random enemy while in port.

 

[Konjad]

By the way, if you love Gothic 1&2 as well as Risens and want more, then I think Vendetta - Curse of the Raven's Cry feels quite close to them, and is also great, even if not as great as Gothics, but can easily compete with Risens.

I remember Raven's Cry being as buggy as Gothic 3 on release (maybe even worse but I am not certain). Is the game playable without mods now?

It's fixed now, throughout the game I encountered only one bug at the very end of the game. SO I recommend giving it another try as overall the game is great.

Here are my thoughts on it:
https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads...riously-unfinished.90073/page-22#post-7081106

 

[HoboForEternity]

I am done woth gothic 3, just noped ASAP because after myrtana i pretty much feel like i got enough.

By far the worst PB game.

First impression the game is actually decent, cape dun, Montera, trellis got some decent fun, but by the time i got faring or whatever, it's just been there done that. Each cities doesn't have distinct plot to it. Some has, but not that much. Merc need help, rebels need help, you kill monsters, collect items, gain reputation, repeat.

Then i went to the desert. For the first few hours, it is ok too, and the palette change was welcome, but then it went into the same cycle again, notably worse.

The liberation mechanic is probably the worst thing about this game rhe fact you have to face like 50 people at once without reliable AOE even as a mage. It's like a bad dynasty warrior game where everything is super slow and combat is horrible torture.

After learned xardas is im nordmar, i immediately went there. (With probably the few moment of cool discovery i found a wolfclan teleporter from a dead warrior behind the huge waterfall) tracked xardas, learned you still hsve like 10 hours of fetch quests and kill all the kings (which i assume invovle fighting a whole garrison of castle alone again) i noped out and unistall and watched the ending on YouTube. Fuck this shit.

Risen 2 and 3 was mediocre, but at least it doesn't overstay its welcome and had some cool moments

 

[ThePaleBear]

Going to Varant after Trelis is much better imho. Nordmar is mostly shit encounters and mountains without much story to it. Liberation fights really depend on the town, Cape Dun, Monterra, Lago and that first village in desert is pretty cool since you gather allies but fights like trelis or faring where you face 1vtown is just bad even if you cheese it. And by innos` fiery balls I need to replay gothic 1-2-3 again just to hang out with Diego.

 

[Zanzoken]

Happy 20th birthday to a legend

 

[octavius]

This means I'm almost 20 years behind with my backlog...

 

[Thac0]

This means I'm almost 20 years behind with my backlog...

Skip the decline after 2004 and it should work out

 

[octavius]

If it wasn't for all the great user-made content, I think I could probably get through 2004-2013 in one year.

 

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GOG Gothic sale:
https://af.gog.com/promo/20210315_gothic_sale?as=1649904300

 

[thesecret1]

What would you say are the best mods for Gothic 2? I played Returning 2.0 and I liked a lot of the stuff they did with it (especially the added challenge. Played it on Legendary difficulty and had an absolute blast), but the story and lore they added was, well, absolutely retarded, and I'm on the lookout for something different this time around. Any recommendations?

 

[urmom]

The control scheme sucks dicks though.

You can use tool to play with gamepad. Works well. Better than using arrowkeys.