The PS5 and Xbox 2 thread - it's happening

[Tehdagah]

Sifu looks cool. Hope its not exclusive.

Good news - it's not a console exclusive.
Bad news - it's an Epic Store exclusive.

That's good news, it means the discounts will be better during sales

 

[Wirdschowerdn]

 

[aweigh]

There are very few games which are programmed with support for it in mind. Astro's Playground is one of them though, makes good use of it in some areas. Anything else is going to seem like bollocks though, because it's non-existent in unsupported games. I'd rate it a 7.5/10 as a feature, because it's not exactly breathtaking, but it's pretty decent when used properly. I expect future PS5-exclusive games will make good use of it, since devs will have an actual incentive to put decent time into it. As opposed to multiplatform games, where they're really not going to care that much about spending time & money on something that's only going to affect one of the platforms and probably won't generate any extra sales.

and ultimate rumble

 

[oddech_wymarlych_swiatow]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/paulta...-deal-is-a-bad-look-for-sony/?sh=14a2f5f234bf

Game Pass vs $70: The ‘MLB The Show’ Xbox Deal Is A Bad Look For Sony

Yesterday, Microsoft shocked the gaming world when they announced that MLB: The Show 21, formerly a PlayStation exclusive franchise, was coming to Xbox Game Pass on launch day.

It was already known that The Show 21 would be released on Xbox, but to have that flip from being PlayStation exclusive since 2006 to “free” on Game Pass is a wild switch, and right now, all of this is an extremely bad look for Sony, more so than the usual “Game Pass has X new release” situation.

Here’s a rough timeline about what has apparently happened here, and where we are now:

• In order for Sony to retain the rights to The Show, part of their new MLB deal was that the game had to be multiplatform, hence the release on Xbox.
• But it seems Microsoft went directly to the MLB to try and work out a deal to get it on Game Pass too. The publisher of the Xbox version is listed as the MLB, not Sony. And so some (very large) amount of money was likely paid to make that happen.
• Now we have a situation where The Show has gone from being a Sony exclusive franchise for 15 years to being on Xbox Game Pass day one, with the game still built by San Diego Studios, a first party Sony developer.
• The PlayStation version of the show is listed for $70, while it appears the only way to get both the PS4 and PS5 versions of the game together is an $85 bundle.

In short, ouch.

While this isn’t like Microsoft stealing Kratos or Nathan Drake or anything, it’s not that far off, honestly, and they have deftly outmaneuvered Sony here, which has now effectively produced a highly sought-after Game Pass game. I suppose it’s possible that Sony/San Diego received some amount of money for all this, as who knows the exact fine print of these deals, but most of this seems driven by the MLB where they wanted their baseball game on more platforms, and if MS will pay them for Game Pass access? Sure, why not.

Microsoft has always tried to force this advantage over Sony, especially this generation, where Game Pass looks like a good alternative to full-priced games, but usually it’s comparing things like Gears 5 or Sea of Thieves to God of War or Ghost of Tsushima. Sort of apples and oranges and fans could make the argument that those games are “worth” full price on PlayStation, and are just better games in general. But here, this is an example of the same game, where Sony, who made the game, is listing it at $70 on PlayStation while Xbox players simply get it with Game Pass. That’s wild. This sort of happened with Ouriders too, another third party game Xbox snatched up for a Game Pass launch while Sony is selling it at full price, but the difference there is that a Sony studio didn’t make Outriders.

Game Pass is going to continue to be a thorn in Sony’s side indefinitely here, and they reportedly have no plans to match it past their current PS Plus/Now offerings, and things like the PS Plus Collection, a large bundle of great, free games for players. But for new releases, you can bet we are going to keep seeing Microsoft making moves like this, but what they’ve done with The Show here is on another level entirely.

 

[Caim]

Aaaaand of course it's got microtransactions as well. That makes it a very easy choice as to what platform to buy it for.

 

[fork]

A sane person simply wouldn't buy it at all.

 

[Cyberarmy]

My Little Bony?

 

[cosmicray]

I didn't even know there was a baseball game, let alone some kind of a killer app exclusive.

 

[DemonKing]

Got a free Gamepass Ultimate membership for a few weeks and have to admit a Series S certainly makes a bit of sense now as a "Gamepass" box where you never actually end up buying any games (even though personally I would prefer a discless Series X was available with more power and a bigger SSD than the S). Would be hard to get by the wife though as I already have a PS5...

 

[Markman]

Got an invite to test out xCloud on PC and iOS.
Dont have any Apple devices so only PC.

Just open up a website xbox.com/play on Edge, Chrome or Safari, log in and you're good to go.

Very straightforward, click a game and play.
They upped the res to 1080 on PC while on phones its still 720p.
Even MLB The Show is on there. It syncs saves so you can pick up where you left off wherever you played last.

You still need a gamepad to play, no kb & mouse allowed.

So far its pretty decent of the half hour I played, didnt even got that pixaleted screen tear once that is common while playing on phone and lag was minimal. Still would not recommend it for twitch games but 30 fps games should work just fine.

Nifty idea, gotta give them that. You can have a 10 year old piece of shit laptop but if it can support 1080p video stream you can play latest and greatest.

I think in a few years this is how game demos will work, you'll see an ad, click "Try it" and in 30 seconds you'll playing without downloads, different clients and other shit.

As a side note, pretty funny they partnered with Rainway to get this done when they have their own and now even Bethesdas streaming tech to use.

 

[Forest Dweller]

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/s...for-you/1100-6490469/#comments-block-33554121

Sony Has Patented An AI That Will Play Games For You

The AI could be used to take over a game for you when you have other matters to attend to.

By Darryn Bonthuys on April 22, 2021 at 6:00AM PDT

SegmentNext, the patent details a method that assigns a default AI profile to the player and then learns how to evolve its generic set of actions.

As the player engages in multiple sessions of a game, the AI will watch and learn, eventually reaching a point where it can make similar decisions. The idea is that eventually, the player will be able to let the AI take over and play the game for them, allowing for the program to complete tasks that are possibly too difficult for the user.

The AI will "proceed in automatic mode to complete specific game tasks that are difficult for the user," the patent reads. "If the AI character has completed specific tasks, those tasks can be identified as being completed by the user with assistance from the AI game controller."

Other examples given include the player turning on Automatic Mode to allow the AI to take their place in a multiplayer co-op game while they attend to other matters, eventually returning to the game instead of exiting entirely.

This patent builds on Sony's push into the AI sector, as the company established its Sony AI organization in 2019 dedicated to the "research and development of AI in both physical and virtual space through multiple world-class flagship projects."

Sony isn't the only gaming company interested in improved AI either, as Microsoft announced in March that it had acquired The Marsden Group, a global tech group with a focus on infrastructure and industrial manufacturing. While it's unlikely that you'll see much of this acquisition reflected in the Xbox game space, Microsoft did note its cloud, Edge, and AI products will benefit from its new purchase.

 

[Assisted Living Godzilla]

That'd be nice for AI opponents, and having that as a universal thing for AI opponents across every game on the system. But just to play the game for me? I'm good.

 

[Wirdschowerdn]

Using AI to make gaming dumber, not smarter. Oh how predictable.

 

[Silentstorm]

Didn't Nintendo do this already years ago with the Wii?

I think some Mario games give the option to play themselves if you fail a lot, anyways, it's not as if AI VS AI can't be fun, but those are mostly fighting games that allow a CPU VS CPU option where you can make actual fair matches or ridiculously unbalanced ones and part of the fun is just deciding who goes in...it's not the story mode being played itself.

I guess this is an option for people that just want to get through the gameplay and into the story fast...but in that case, the old question of why they just don't read a book or watch a show/movie comes to mind.

 

[aweigh]

 

[aweigh]

that RTX Marble Madness demo also shows off something else: resolution is useless after a certain point, or rather it is not as important as people think.

that demo was recorded at 1440p 30fps using DLSS which means it's not even native 1440p and it looks "photo realistic". This is a very good video to show to people think "higher resolution is the end goal", because we can clearly see here it is not, yes resolution matters but not as much as the other types of technology used to achieve the overal graphical aesthetic, mainly lighting.

 

[BlackAdderBG]

This demo has such bad shimmering and artifacting it's unbelievable how can anyone be excited about dlss. If nvidia instead provided one coder to help every game that is sending it's assets to their AI farms the end result would have been way better.

 

[deuxhero]

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/s...for-you/1100-6490469/#comments-block-33554121

Sony Has Patented An AI That Will Play Games For You

The AI could be used to take over a game for you when you have other matters to attend to.

By Darryn Bonthuys on April 22, 2021 at 6:00AM PDT

SegmentNext, the patent details a method that assigns a default AI profile to the player and then learns how to evolve its generic set of actions.

As the player engages in multiple sessions of a game, the AI will watch and learn, eventually reaching a point where it can make similar decisions. The idea is that eventually, the player will be able to let the AI take over and play the game for them, allowing for the program to complete tasks that are possibly too difficult for the user.

The AI will "proceed in automatic mode to complete specific game tasks that are difficult for the user," the patent reads. "If the AI character has completed specific tasks, those tasks can be identified as being completed by the user with assistance from the AI game controller."

Other examples given include the player turning on Automatic Mode to allow the AI to take their place in a multiplayer co-op game while they attend to other matters, eventually returning to the game instead of exiting entirely.

This patent builds on Sony's push into the AI sector, as the company established its Sony AI organization in 2019 dedicated to the "research and development of AI in both physical and virtual space through multiple world-class flagship projects."

Sony isn't the only gaming company interested in improved AI either, as Microsoft announced in March that it had acquired The Marsden Group, a global tech group with a focus on infrastructure and industrial manufacturing. While it's unlikely that you'll see much of this acquisition reflected in the Xbox game space, Microsoft did note its cloud, Edge, and AI products will benefit from its new purchase.

Prior art. Dragon's Dogma's pawns already mirror the player's behavior, while Duel Links has a feature to let the AI play for you (used mainly to have the AI grind for you, requires very specific decks optiomized around the AI because it's retarded).

 

[Wirdschowerdn]

Sony just bought Nixxes, a notorious PC porting house that worked with Square/Eidos for 20 years.

Wat could dat possibly mean?

 

[ADULF HITLOR FAN KLUB]

Shitty PC ports of Sony titles, obviously.

But you knew that.

 

[Caim]

Sony just bought Nixxes, a notorious PC porting house that worked with Square/Eidos for 20 years.

Wat could dat possibly mean?

 

[samuraigaiden]

It's a shame so few Sony games are even remotely interesting.

 

[Pika-Cthulhu]

Sony just bought Nixxes, a notorious PC porting house that worked with Square/Eidos for 20 years.

Wat could dat possibly mean?

Sony has invested in graphics card stonks?

 

[Star Citizen]

Legit just give us FUCKEN BLUD BORnE

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Legit just give us FUCKEN BLUD BORnE

don't you guys ever get tired of playing the same game over and over?