Let's talk about Lacrymas' homebrew fantasy setting where paladins are eunuchs

[Larianshill]

Divine magic concentrates power in the hands of divine casters the same way in an otherwise magicless world. And please do not attempt to drive me through a circular argument, I am far more autistic than you are.

There is not a single reason - other than outright divine intervention - for why clerics are inherently more accountable than wizards. Any tradition that could arise against cleric magic could also arise against arcane magic.

 

[Ol' Willy]

 

[Lacrymas]

Any tradition that could arise against cleric magic could also arise against arcane magic.

Yes, it can, but you see the resistance to it. That's why I incise the temptation to resist by removing any traces of arcane magic. And the setting feels quite different with no arcane magic in it. Like I said in the beginning, arcane magic must be heavily regulated in order to not be a problem lore-wise.

 

[Hobo Elf]

 

[Ol' Willy]

OK, guys, take a look at my homebrew D&D setting. It has some significant changes to any other D&D settings.

No niggers in my setting.

That's all, actually. What are your thoughts, guys?

 

[Ol' Willy]

Like I said, because arcane spellcasters create food and water. That inevitably concentrates power and nobody else can take that away from them. Which inevitably leads to a static setting and a tyranny which can't be toppled.

Have you heard of D&D Dark Sun setting and what happened to arcane tyranny there?

 

[Hobo Elf]

OK, guys, take a look at my homebrew D&D setting. It has some significant changes to any other D&D settings.

No niggers in my setting.

That's all, actually. What are your thoughts, guys?

In Varg's setting black people got a malus to int and a bonus to spear throwing. I think you can do a bit better.

 

[Ol' Willy]

In Varg's setting black people got a malus to int and a bonus to spear throwing. I think you can do a bit better.

 

[Xelocix]

No niggers in my setting.

Then who are the bad guys?

 

[Ol' Willy]

No niggers in my setting.

Then who are the bad guys?

(((they)))

 

[Storyfag]

I only said it's fascy if they are born with superior genes which allow them to learn this craft.

What about all those damned fascist black sprinters, Lacrymas?

 

[Lacrymas]

I only said it's fascy if they are born with superior genes which allow them to learn this craft.

What about all those damned fascist black sprinters, Lacrymas?

Only black people are born with the ability to sprint?

 

[Storyfag]

I only said it's fascy if they are born with superior genes which allow them to learn this craft.

What about all those damned fascist black sprinters, Lacrymas?

Only black people are born with the ability to sprint?

Looking at olympic medalists? Yes.

 

[Lacrymas]

Looking at olympic medalists? Yes.

And this somehow has lead to political institutions that put black sprinters with olympic medals at the top of influence? Don't pretend in-born magical power that can alter reality is the same as running fast.

 

[Storyfag]

Looking at olympic medalists? Yes.

And this somehow has lead to political institutions that put black sprinters with olympic medals at the top of influence? Don't pretend in-born magical power that can alter reality is the same as running fast.

Glad you accept that reality is inherently fascist m'xir.

Firstly, you will also notice that there are no political institutions that put geniuses at the top of influence. Or gifted hackers who, in this day and age, hold as much power as DnD wizards.

Secondly, you should be well aware that only sorcerers have in-born powers in DnD. Wizards educate xirselves, and warlocks bargain with dark powers.

 

[Sweeper]

In Varg's setting black people got a malus to int and a bonus to spear throwing. I think you can do a bit better.

No bonus to pickpocketing and sneak?

 

[Lacrymas]

Looking at olympic medalists? Yes.

And this somehow has lead to political institutions that put black sprinters with olympic medals at the top of influence? Don't pretend in-born magical power that can alter reality is the same as running fast.

Glad you accept that reality is inherently fascist m'xir.

Firstly, you will also notice that there are no political institutions that put geniuses at the top of influence. Or gifted hackers who, in this day and age, hold as much power as DnD wizards.

Secondly, you should be well aware that only sorcerers have in-born powers in DnD. Wizards educate xirselves, and warlocks bargain with dark powers.

Nothing of what you are saying is connected to what I said, though? Or logically follows from anything I've ever said. I don't want this thread to turn into another fascism discussion.

 

[Cael]

Like I said, because arcane spellcasters create food and water. That inevitably concentrates power and nobody else can take that away from them. Which inevitably leads to a static setting and a tyranny which can't be toppled.

Create Food and Water
Lvl 3 Clr


You are on some strong illegal narcotics. Please get help.

 

[Storyfag]

Looking at olympic medalists? Yes.

And this somehow has lead to political institutions that put black sprinters with olympic medals at the top of influence? Don't pretend in-born magical power that can alter reality is the same as running fast.

Glad you accept that reality is inherently fascist m'xir.

Firstly, you will also notice that there are no political institutions that put geniuses at the top of influence. Or gifted hackers who, in this day and age, hold as much power as DnD wizards.

Secondly, you should be well aware that only sorcerers have in-born powers in DnD. Wizards educate xirselves, and warlocks bargain with dark powers.

Nothing of what you are saying is connected to what I said, though? Or logically follows from anything I've ever said.

Ok, let's try with a quest compass:
In the real world individuals with breathtaking talent (likely of fascist origins, but that is besides the point) can hack the world to pieces better than a nuke.
How is it that those individuals, despite their power, have not formed a hackerocratic totalitarian dictatorship?

 

[Lacrymas]

Like I said, because arcane spellcasters create food and water. That inevitably concentrates power and nobody else can take that away from them. Which inevitably leads to a static setting and a tyranny which can't be toppled.

Create Food and Water
Lvl 3 Clr


You are on some strong illegal narcotics. Please get help.

I have disallowed this spell. Even if I hadn't, they aren't the only ones who can create food and water. His hypothetical setting has infertile lands and only arcane magic can create food and water. I kinda suspect people aren't following the conversation from the beginning. The food and water thing was a reply to a specific question about a specific setting he made up.

 

[Storyfag]

Like I said, because arcane spellcasters create food and water. That inevitably concentrates power and nobody else can take that away from them. Which inevitably leads to a static setting and a tyranny which can't be toppled.

Create Food and Water
Lvl 3 Clr

He likely changed that in his homebrew for some weird reason.

You are on some strong illegal narcotics. Please get me some.

FTFY

 

[Cael]

Like I said, because arcane spellcasters create food and water. That inevitably concentrates power and nobody else can take that away from them. Which inevitably leads to a static setting and a tyranny which can't be toppled.

Create Food and Water
Lvl 3 Clr


You are on some strong illegal narcotics. Please get help.

I have disallowed this spell. Even if I hadn't, they aren't the only ones who can create food and water. His hypothetical setting has infertile lands and only arcane magic can create food and water.

You change the spell which ONLY Clerics can cast, gave it to arcane casters, then rail against arcane casters for a spell you assigned them.

As I said before, you are on strong, illegal narcotics. Get help.

 

[Lacrymas]

Like I said, because arcane spellcasters create food and water. That inevitably concentrates power and nobody else can take that away from them. Which inevitably leads to a static setting and a tyranny which can't be toppled.

Create Food and Water
Lvl 3 Clr


You are on some strong illegal narcotics. Please get help.

I have disallowed this spell. Even if I hadn't, they aren't the only ones who can create food and water. His hypothetical setting has infertile lands and only arcane magic can create food and water.

You change the spell which ONLY Clerics can cast, gave it to arcane casters, then rail against arcane casters for a spell you assigned them.

As I said before, you are on strong, illegal narcotics. Get help.

Are you even following the conversation? It has nothing to do with what you are saying.

 

[Cael]

Like I said, because arcane spellcasters create food and water. That inevitably concentrates power and nobody else can take that away from them. Which inevitably leads to a static setting and a tyranny which can't be toppled.

Create Food and Water
Lvl 3 Clr


You are on some strong illegal narcotics. Please get help.

I have disallowed this spell. Even if I hadn't, they aren't the only ones who can create food and water. His hypothetical setting has infertile lands and only arcane magic can create food and water.

You change the spell which ONLY Clerics can cast, gave it to arcane casters, then rail against arcane casters for a spell you assigned them.

As I said before, you are on strong, illegal narcotics. Get help.

Are you even following the conversation? It has nothing to do with what you are saying.

The central plank of your hate for arcane casters is that they control the ability to create food and water in a world where food and water is scarce. That inevitably gives them disproportionate power over everyone else and therefore is fascist. So, you banned them.

However, arcane casters never could create food and water in the first place. That has always been a clerical ability.

In order for arcane casters to create food and water, you would need to have given it to them in the first place. Therefore, you gave them an ability and then hated them for it and declared them null and void in your setting because it won't make sense to allow them there. You deliberately created a situation to justify your own pet hate for something and cancelled them for it.

You are therefore, either delusional or a fucking sjw fuckhead cunt. I am giving you the benefit of a doubt and assuming you are drugged up to the gills and delusional. Are you saying I am mistaken?

 

[Butter]

In Varg's setting black people got a malus to int and a bonus to spear throwing. I think you can do a bit better.

No bonus to pickpocketing and sneak?

Have you ever seen a black person try to be quiet?