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What if we split the Codex into two sites: RPG Codex + Political Codex?
- Thread starter DarkUnderlord
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If you don't care, you deserve neither and will lose both.
Melcar
Arcane
Jews did it.
racofer
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Maybe I missed it but I have yet to see why this is actually such a bad idea for RPG Codex' RPG discussion. I only saw declarative statements without any arguments (maybe I honestly missed it, just saying) and posts like the one above by Gangrel that explained why the idea would be bad for the political discourse here. Even though this is allegedly a site for RPG discussion.
It is also a little revealing cause that kind of argument seems to me like the /pol/tards here know that their shit attracts other (perhaps even more retarded) /po/ltards like shit attracts the flies.
So what they actually do is abuse the RPG in "RPG Codex" as some kind of protective front organization for their /pol/posting. Tells you all you need to know about how much they value the actual focus of this site, really.
It is also a little revealing cause that kind of argument seems to me like the /pol/tards here know that their shit attracts other (perhaps even more retarded) /po/ltards like shit attracts the flies.
So what they actually do is abuse the RPG in "RPG Codex" as some kind of protective front organization for their /pol/posting. Tells you all you need to know about how much they value the actual focus of this site, really.
The RPG forums are the Custom and Immigration Offices to your Political section.
If you get rid of the passive filtering system you've set up, the only thing that will result is an unnecessary community fracture, but most importantly 365X more work for you, DU.
Are you sure about this? Every prison is mostly run by the inmates. If you do this, you would have to... work.
If you get rid of the passive filtering system you've set up, the only thing that will result is an unnecessary community fracture, but most importantly 365X more work for you, DU.
Are you sure about this? Every prison is mostly run by the inmates. If you do this, you would have to... work.
It's been said before, but I'll repeat it again.
Banning politics from game discussion defacto bans criticism of games the woke crowd deems unacceptable.
That's the short version of it sausage
Banning politics from game discussion defacto bans criticism of games the woke crowd deems unacceptable.
That's the short version of it sausage
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If this proposal upsets enough people, you'll go through with it anyway.
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I've mentioned it over and over in this thread, but there has been zero clarification on what "politics" means. Infinitron made his intentions very clear in the edge thread when he mentioned that he feels discussing anything but "RPG mechanics" is bad.
There would have to be clear definitions of what a "political" discussion is. Delterius mentioned that he considers negative discussion of the dwarf hunter companion in Pillars to be "political" discussion. Others may consider that merely a discussion of a game's writing.
To some people on this forum, any criticism of a game for something with woke connections is politics. I don't entirely trust the people that would be doing the policing either.
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The separation is a good idea but the off topic posters will simply continue starting off topic threads in the gaming forum because they can't seem to contain their enthusiasm and want to share their groundbreaking opinions with everyone else, even those who don't care about them.
Fair enough, even though I doubt that such a strict ban would even be feasible anyway. There would have to be political discussion within reason if it is relevant to a given game.
Nevermind the fact that no one suggested banning anyone, or giving in to a woke crowd (that lack of subject comprehension seems to be a common theme among the /pol/sters) ...
... why the fuck would you care about how game discussion could change anyways?
Corvinus
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Opposed to "some kind of protective front organization for their POZkit posting". Tells you all you need about how much they value the actual focus of this site, really.
Heroic Liberator
Arcane
I also find it quite amusing how people bring up percentages of user posts in this or that subforum as a justification for there being a split. At the end of the day, there's only so much that one can talk about dealing with old titles and new releases which catch one's interest are few and far between; the fact that a user posts mostly in GD & co. only shows that he's an involved part of the RPG Codex community and does not imply in any way that he's not interested in video games - only that he posts about the latter when there's a topic worth discussing.
I'm annoyed by the endless muh SJWs/Joos/Nigz/whatever drivel as the next non-fash. But I just can't imagine a multiverse where the split would go well. Short-term for the RPG codex? Sure. But I think the polCodex would inevitably go down the shitter one way or another, dragging the rpgcodex with it, again, one way or another. So I rather suck it up the way it is, be thankful that I can call someone a faggot no matter his sexual orientation if I wish to, and if a gamergater becomes too boring/obnoxious, there's still the ignore feature.
Yea, sure are flooded with these types, eh?
Sure. And just for the record, I am not advocating for either, and I have not voted on anything (yet). Nor do I believe this is really serious, anyway. I am just curious. A split like that could have unforeseen consequences, for sure.
Hobo Elf
Arcane
Now that's some cope.
The last time the codex tried something new we ended up with the codex discord channel.
The facts speak for themself.
The facts speak for themself.
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It was already pointed out several times in this thread that gaming simply is politicised nowadays, while it wasn’t so in the past (see people pointing out that nobody held political discussions about say Gold Box games, Realms of Arkania, Thief, X-COM and other classics, RPGs and other genres, simply because devs were making games back in the day, not political propaganda pieces like they do nowadays, with exceptions such as Underrail etc).
Political shit pushed by contemporary corporate devs (and obviously some indies too) is a direct cause of contemporary games being shit. This goes to shit writing, shit character design, retarded in-game messaging etc but it also speaks to deeper issues such as “diversity hiring” (see the picture of the dev team for Witcher I and CP2077). All of these things are highly political and if you set up a forum where you cannot point these things out, you simply cannot get to the core of things and the discussion will miss an important element. Saying that there is no argument to be made for why political dimension is important in discussion about contemporary gaming is deeply disingenuous.
There is however one more point worth addressing. I understand that some people in charge of the Codex are sitting there, thinking “sheeeeeit nigga if only we could get normies posting here the devs would show up and we could get in on some of that sweet Dorrito pope action like Cocktaku and NeoFAG.”
Smart idea, right? Wrong.
In the USA, people are losing their jobs right now over Facebook posts from like 2008. To an average SJW retard (ie most of the “gaming industry” and “gaming journalism” right now), RPG Codex (and any other “free speech” forum out there) is basically Stormfront. To these people, anyone associated with this forum (let alone fucking admins) is literally Hitler. Even Infinitron is literally Hitler. Most ironically, even the fucking cucks that post here (and there is a surprising number of them) are literally Hitler too.
If you think that you can somehow “reinvent” this site and compete with the likes of Retardera, you have a next thing coming. The cucks would immediately point out the relation to the “nazi forum” and they would not even have to get screenshots from GD, just a few average posts lets say from the CP2077 or TLoU2 threads would do. If, lets say Infinitron, tried to get a job as a respectable “journalist,” he would likely get doxed (probably by someone from the Dex itself) as a “nazi forum” admin (“So you had admin powers on a forum where people used N-word? Eh we will get back to you about that contract soon…”) and would get cancelled in about five seconds.
The other thing is that nobody has a reason to get involved with just another sanitised vidya forum where saying “nigger” or “fag” gets you banned for life. There are tons of sites like that, they are already established and they don’t have “dark history” hanging above them.
So this hypothetical “get rich quick” scheme will most likely just ruin the site and the admins wont get shit. Alternatively, they could keep catering to the audience that they cultivated over the years and maintain the niche they have.
Hobo Elf
Arcane
Ok, if we're not having a split, then how about they bring back Tacticular Cancer instead. With an influx in tactical games and their rising popularity maybe it'd get more activity again.
In all seriousness I don't actually understand why we're discussing this at all.
Is it financial? What is it? While it's a convenient angle to say that Infinitron wants to build his empire - is that really it?
As I've already pointed out in the shoutbox, if the Codex was actually mainstream it would have been sunk by JF getting fired by his employer. The reputation that RPGCodex attracts is exactly what makes it sustainable and able to weather bad press.
Is it financial? What is it? While it's a convenient angle to say that Infinitron wants to build his empire - is that really it?
As I've already pointed out in the shoutbox, if the Codex was actually mainstream it would have been sunk by JF getting fired by his employer. The reputation that RPGCodex attracts is exactly what makes it sustainable and able to weather bad press.
I heard something in the shoutbox about asfasdf trying to raise money to upgrade the site.
Maybe this is related. If they need money for upgrades, they should just say so.
Maybe this is related. If they need money for upgrades, they should just say so.
Heroic Liberator
Arcane
Yeah, I'm sure that there aren't plenty of users who won't remain engaged with the 'dex if their reasons to interact with the forum will be limited to posting once every blue moon when there's some concrete thing they wish to ask pertaining to a particular game and/or reading through threads that deal with development news.
The 'dex has a loyal and active userbase precisely because it functions akin to social media. Take away everything not related to gaming and enforce draconian depolitization policies and all you'll be left with is a mediocre generalist RPG platform for which there are better alternatives depending on the games you personally care about (i.e. you like game X, you go to the forum most closely associated with game X's devs).
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