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[Thac0]

so you can call the Western market better if you want.

In past, I "bashed" a lot of JRPG's, but now changed my mind. Is not their fault. They are just different.I just don't like then cuz I have a deep passion for Magic and Firearms. Most JRPG's tends to not allow this class fantasies upon the player or when allow, is in a very "limited" and lackluster way. They also tend to not care about making things in gameplay great as they are in lore/cutscene/wathever. IMO game mechanics should reinforce the setting and "player fantasy", not goes against it.

Amusingly the series where this guy:

Spoiler

comes from might be a good fit for you then. Gridlocked, so guns are really strong due to massive range, and mages can easily break the game.

Don't worry the first game has a more grounded artstyle. It is Final Fantasy Tactics, the tactical rpg with a similar class system to Final Fantasy V I recommended you.

But yeah a disconnect between gameplay and story exists in every JRPG, even in the grounded ones.
Oddly Japanese developers do not really consider immersion a thing, which is an odd market hole for the country that invented a literal immersion genre in Isekai.

 

[Vormulak]

>jrpgs
>roleplaying games
they're autistic dungeon crawlers for homosexuals undergoing HRT

 

[Desiderius]

No

 

[Reinhardt]

homosexuals undergoing HRT

 

[samuraigaiden]

Japanzers didn't invent Isekai. They just turned it into a local cliche

 

[Thac0]

Japanzers didn't invent Isekai. They just turned it into a local cliche

That argument is mostly semantical, since the core question is if the modern Isekai and the much older Portal Fantasy are the same genre.
I'd say no, modern Isekai has clear genre tropes which seperate it from older Portal Fantasy, the whole RPG influence and harem stuff and all. Also the fact that returning to your own world is not really a drive for any character motivation or drama, and the backstory in the real world is usually relegated to half a page since noone cares about it.
Portal Fantasy is as old as writing tho, it is a quite interesting question who came up with it. Before the British picked it back up again in 1800, the Greeks had stories with clear portal fantasy elements same as the ancient Chinese and the Indians.
I have read some interesting takes the the Sumerians were already writing portal fantasy.

 

[Cryomancer]

semantical

Isekai = going into another world. Digimon is the best isekai animu and SAO is the worst.

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Now using semantics to trigger people. Any RPG where you travel to other world is a isekai RPG. nwn HotU? nwn2 MotB? Ravenloft : Strahd possession? Going to Feyworld in Kingmaker? All isekais. Spelljammer : Pirates of the Realmspace is isekai too.

 

[Reinhardt]

Isekai is shit.

 

[Thac0]

Digimon

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1042550/Digimon_Story_Cyber_Sleuth_Complete_Edition/

Has a very good JRPG btw which decently often shows up in favorite rpg of all time lists.
I never got into Digimon before, I was really surprised when I started this game and saw that Digimon is basically Summer Wars the game.
Definitly cool world and concepts.

 

[Ol' Willy]

Thanks for turning this thread into a weeaboo fest

 

[Thac0]

Thanks for turning this thread into a weeaboo fest

Spit out a hot take and change the subject then.

 

[Cryomancer]

Isekai is shit.

KonoSuba, Drifters and Tanya the Evil disagrees with you. Isekai is a shithole with few gold coins inside.

Thanks for turning this thread into a weeaboo fest

Successful trigged. hu3hu3hu3 just kidding.

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To trigger 5e fans.

My can your 5e disintegrate do that???

My 2e spell and psionc power can!!!

 

[Ol' Willy]

https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads/psa-regarding-wikia-images.137124/

 

[Reinhardt]

KonoSuba, Drifters and Tanya the Evil

Shit.

 

[Malamert]

While we're at it, Mary Skelter - Finale is going to be released in the West this autumn. Great dungeon crawler with neat mechanics and superb characters.

 

[Zed Duke of Banville]

Japanzers didn't invent Isekai. They just turned it into a local cliche

Edgar Rice Burroughs and Abraham Merritt would be turning over in their graves if they were aware of what the Japanese have done to a once-prestigious subgenre of fantasy literature.

 

[Kev Inkline]

What if we split the Codex into two sites: RPG Codex + Political Codex?

 

[Cryomancer]

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[GhostCow]

KonoSuba, Drifters and Tanya the Evil

Shit.

Mushoku Tensei. If you think that's shit then you either have no taste or are an SJW faggot.

 

[Carpincho Pampeano]

The best dungeon crawler series of all time is Etrian Odyssey and most portraits are of little girls, some of them wearing heavy armor.

 

[Reinhardt]

KonoSuba, Drifters and Tanya the Evil

Shit.

Mushoku Tensei. If you think that's shit then you either have no taste or are an SJW faggot.

Nigger, it's shit.

 

[Malamert]

The best dungeon crawler series of all time is Etrian Odyssey and most portraits are of little girls, some of them wearing heavy armor.

Genuinely interested in trying this series out, but the way some people seriously and unironically praise it seems rather odd. Are the games THAT good or is it just Nintendoniggers being pathetic as always and praising them to high heaven just because they're DS/3DS exclusives?

 

[ADL]

All MMOs should be level scaled because developing entire zones that you'll skip while leveling only to return as a demi-god that one shots everything is retarded. Also no one likes having to tell their friends that they're gonna have to play 500 hours to play with them before they get to the "good stuff".

Ideally, remove leveling entirely or make it super short like Guild Wars did.

 

[Ol' Willy]

Sincere statement:

I hate interruption mechanic in tacticool RPGs

 

[Corvinus]

Dungeons & Dragons teaches that diversity is a strength, and we strive to make our D&D products as welcoming and inclusive as possible. This part of our work will never end.

I thought that Dungeons and Dragons was a game about perilous adventure, not a school book about the teachings of the devil. Anyone who is still buying that utter crap is funding it.