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Whats your favorite standard fantasy class?

Favorite standard fantasy class?


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v1rus

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We 'll be using DND 3.5 eleven starters, as they are as standard as it gets, plus warlock, because i know people love it, and frequently place it among the starters.

Also, classes in this thread are completely divorced from their 3.5 mechanics, so perceive the classes by the concepts they usually posses.
 

v1rus

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monk isn't a standard western fantasy class

Now that you mention it... Ye, i cant remember seeing it out of DnD. Still, for any of this to be actually fun, you need to take a commonly used roster of classes. And I cant imagine any other published roster hitting that mark closer than 3.5 DnD.
 
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Ye, i cant remember seeing it out of DnD.
It's actually not even present in the AD&D2E PHB as a holdover from Gygax's original 2E designs. He planned on punting it to an Oriental-themed supplement and didn't believe it should be a 'core' class. It's in one his articles he published in Dragon.

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and if anyone is curious what a Gygax 2E might have looked like, there has been an attempt to summarize everything he's stated about it
https://www.greyhawkgrognard.com/2009/02/16/ad-second-edition/
 
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Darth Canoli

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It all depends on the game, standard D&D classes sucks in video games.

Early Might & Magic did the Barbarian just right interesting spellcasters in the latest trilogy.
Wizardry did them all right, fighter, rogue, spellcasters, ranger, bard...
And Wizardry fighter class is in fact a Barbarian done right.

But really, looking at Dark Sun/Wizardry/Might & Magic/KotC 2 classes, D&D classes can be fun, as long as you step away from standard classes.
Gladiators, Psionicists, Death Knights, Ninjas, Samouraï ...
 
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monk isn't a standard western fantasy class

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Fucking ought to be. Get rid of the Ki bullshit and get some Mystery or Epiphany points in there. Make them another option for the face of the party alongside Bard and Paladin. High lore, high persuade. A class capable of intelligent conversation with princes and clergy alike.
 

NJClaw

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If warlock is in there, then I also want at least warmage, wu jen, ninja, scout, spellthief, favored soul, shugenja, spirit shaman, hexblade, samurai, and swashbuckler. Also, psion definitely takes priority over warlock, so I also want that and wilder, soulknife, psychic warrior, divine mind, lurk, and ardent. One could also argue that, regarding classes, Player's Handbook 2 is more important than Complete Arcane, so it would be unfair not to include duskblade, knight, dragon shaman, and beguiler.

And it doesn't end there, because the warlock is just an aborted abomination, and its presence is an insult to all the other missing classes. So, to be fair to everyone, you should also add factotum, archivist, dread necromancer, binder, shadowcaster, truenamer, warblade, crusader, swordsage, totemist, incarnate, and soulborn.

I can live with artificer, dragonfire adept, marshal, and healer not on the list.

I liked this poll, but the presence of the warlock entirely ruined it and you should get banned.
 
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Fighter but as contrarian as possible in video games, such as wearing only normal clothes and using a rapier while RPing as medieval Jason Bourne. I always wanted to try a spiked chain user in 3.5 but it never really panned out that way.
 
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monk isn't a standard western fantasy class

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Fucking ought to be. Get rid of the Ki bullshit and get some Mystery or Epiphany points in there. Make them another option for the face of the party alongside Bard and Paladin. High lore, high persuade. A class capable of intelligent conversation with princes and clergy alike.
clerics already fill this archetype
 

Absinthe

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Monks are pretty much D&D only, and a pretty bad class at that. They also don't belong in western fantasy, as those guys are clearly sooner Shaolin monks than any western monk.

At any rate, best class is really contingent on the game and how well it uses them. Usually fantasy games suffer from spellcaster supremacy though.
 

Zanzoken

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I've always been partial to clerics. Can mix it up in melee, use support or even offensive magic in some cases, and of course healing your bros.
 

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