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[sigard]

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[Arthandas]

k

 

[MpuMngwana]

 

[Grauken]

OP got molested by his party members and is now butthurt about cRPGs. Obviously, he shouldn't have chosen the gay option

 

[RandomName]

Rpgs were decline from the start: they all descend from simplified wargames

 

[JarlFrank]

Next, play Knights of the Chalice (2007). Take note of the many, many ways in which turn based combat in CRPGs is finally improved from the standards of 1989. Take note of the fact that this game did not sell enough to warrant a sequel (Codexers complained about the graphics quite loudly) and that the developer is now doing a real time strategy game.

I have some good news for you.

Also the game was released in 2009 wasn't it?

 

[Fedora Master]

'ate text
'ate graphics
'luv me nostalgia

t. RPG Codex forums poster

 

[Pink Eye]

Where's that NWN 1 retrospective? You're depriving us of good contents!

 

[FriendlyMerchant]

Storms of Zehir was a comfy game.

 

[Beans00]

Thats what you should do after posting so much nonsense

 

[eli]

TLDR, just watch this gay shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7EbDI_uFBY&t=3053s&ab_channel=IndigoGaming

 

[Falksi]

 

[Yosharian]

Have you played Disco Elysium?

 

[Tomas]

I tend to agree with OP, at least in the sense that he follows what his (admittedly a bit narrow) definition of a good rpg is through the decades. Personally I think BG2 is the unsurpassed ( and seldom equalled) pinnacle of western RPG.

sigard there is a kotc sequel and based on your preferences you should check it out.

 

[Gregz]

OP makes some very good points.

 

[King Crispy]

Next, play Temple of Elemental Evil (2003). Play through Hommlet only, you can stop after that. Sorry, that was cruel, I just wanted you to experience the worst level ever included in a CRPG, three hours of walking around, reading mundane text and clicking on options from lists. This game did finally improve turn based combat in CRPGs above 1989 standards, but was crippled by horrible level design, so it did not have any significant effect at halting or reversing the decline, aside from (probably) inspiring KoTC.

This portion of your generally shitty post is enough for me to very much not like you.

Fuck off.

 

[gurugeorge]

Apart from some idiosyncrasies, like the OP's bizarre aversion to reading, and his criticism of ToEE's level design as "horrible," I think it's a fair and realistic overview.

I particularly agree with the spicy and amusing take that the FPS Fallouts weren't essentially much different from the original Fallouts (which are wildly overrated around these parts, IMHO).

To me, the pivotal point in the entire story is the failure of ToEE. There's an alternate history where it came out as a full, highly polished game and took the crown away from the BG games, thereby a) moving the genre along b) keeping it on track and c) taking full advantage of improved graphical goodness the way we all dreamed of as we were playing the graphically simpler games.

 

[Generic-Giant-Spider]

buys Temple of Elemental Evil.

gets filtered by Hommlet lmao, never enters Temple of Elemental Evil.

 

[BING XI LAO]

Excellent review of a shit genre.

 

[makchanka]

Reading is hard and I have full-blown screeching autism.

ok cool

 

[Endless]

Don't forget that fag game Ultima Underworld which started that trend of "fuck turn based dungeon crawling combat, lets make him a popamole and focus on immersion".

 

[cruelio]

Notice how people used to write their banal thoughts in diaries that they kept to themselves

Next, notice how now people for some reason think the stupid shit that occupies their head should be shared in excruciating length with potentially infinite people for no other reason than because they can

In the past OP would have been happy in his job as latrine digger, and no one would know what stupidity occupied his brain. Now he doesn't even dig latrines and we get to be exposed to his mediocre thoughts that he thinks merits attention because?.... At least the latrines were useful.

 

[Falksi]

Notice how people used to write their banal thoughts in diaries that they kept to themselves

Next, notice how now people for some reason think the stupid shit that occupies their head should be shared in excruciating length with potentially infinite people for no other reason than because they can

In the past OP would have been happy in his job as latrine digger, and no one would know what stupidity occupied his brain. Now he doesn't even dig latrines and we get to be exposed to his mediocre thoughts that he thinks merits attention because?.... At least the latrines were useful.

Thanks for sharing your banal thoughts with us.

 

[Zed Duke of Banville]

Don't forget that fag game Ultima Underworld which started that trend of "fuck turn based dungeon crawling combat, lets make him a popamole and focus on immersion".

I'll have you know that it was Dungeon Master, released in 1987, that replaced turn-based with real-time in order to enhance immersion and exploration. The first in a subgenre that had many imitators over the next half-dozen years.

 

[Tacgnol]

You are not Excidium