Putting the 'role' back in role-playing games since 2002.
Donate to Codex
Good Old Games
  • Welcome to rpgcodex.net, a site dedicated to discussing computer based role-playing games in a free and open fashion. We're less strict than other forums, but please refer to the rules.

    "This message is awaiting moderator approval": All new users must pass through our moderation queue before they will be able to post normally. Until your account has "passed" your posts will only be visible to yourself (and moderators) until they are approved. Give us a week to get around to approving / deleting / ignoring your mundane opinion on crap before hassling us about it. Once you have passed the moderation period (think of it as a test), you will be able to post normally, just like all the other retards.

Good Doom/Heretic/Hexen WADs

schru

Arcane
Joined
Feb 27, 2015
Messages
1,131
Seems like this might be the most suitable thread for this.

Recently Kevin Schilder, Raven Software's composer, revealed the titles for the music tracks in Heretic: https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Heretic_music

Also, since it's likely that the music was composed on Sound Blaster AWE32 ("Intended" Hexen Sound Canvas Music? - Everything Else - Doomworld), it's worth mentioning that AWE64 recordings of the tracks have recently appeared on YouTube. The instruments sound the same as in older AWE32 recordings which are also on YouTube, but the audio quality is better. There is a bit of crackling in some tracks, especially on the chorus, which appears in exactly the same way on both cards, so perhaps AWE32 wasn't the one, but since the game has General MIDI support, the suggestion in the Doomworld thread that the music was composed for OPL seems dubious (Sound Blaster 16 was the preceding model and it certainly doesn't sound better: https://youtu.be/eZT4W7FL4R0?list=PLFFA9A564103330CE). At any rate, the tracks do sound better than on Roland SC-55 and none of the instruments are subdued:

 
Last edited:

Baron Dupek

Arcane
Joined
Jul 23, 2013
Messages
1,870,765

https://comicbook.com/gaming/news/bethesda-new-free-content-doom-doom-2/

The original DOOM and DOOM II have received a new update on modern consoles! Today, Bethesda revealed that Earthless: Prelude is coming free to versions of DOOM on current platforms such as Xbox One, Nintendo Switch, PlayStation 4, and PC. The add-on features 12 maps in total, and has been developed by modder James "Jimmy" Paddock. Paddock has worked on a number of notable DOOM mods over the years, including an add-on called Deathless. Earthless is a spiritual successor to that project, which is also available as a free add-on, as well. In total, 32 levels will be released as part of the new project.

In a blog post on Bethesda's Slayer's Club, Paddock revealed that these maps were actually created in the mid-2000s, when he was first learning how to create maps. Since then, Paddock has become a skilled developer, and he was able to take his experience and use it to polish up these older creations. The new levels will feature "stock music" from the first two DOOM games, but the finished project will include an original soundtrack from Paddock and other musicians associated with the DOOM modding scene.
sellouts
 
Joined
Mar 30, 2012
Messages
7,044
Location
Elevator Of Love
Divinity: Original Sin 2 Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag.
Since the Heretic custom wads aren't that many, I've decided to try them out.

I wanted to refresh original episodes first, with some gameplay mod. And voila, I found Walpurgis.
It basically turns the game into Hexen, with all the three well known classes available, plus Druid.
We've got 3 main weapons, plus fourth which we need to find parts for. There is no Tome of Powers, but instead we find universal upgrades.
There are three different attack type - the third one is hiding under "reload" key. We can upgrade once each one of them for every weapon.

The combat is great. We don't loose time fighting gargoyles like in the vanilla version. The duels are quicker, thanks to the bigger weapon damage, but monsters also have been changed. So it's easier to die as well, especially when we are ambushed. Lava and acid seems also more deadly.

When it comes to classes, warrior has the biggest hp pool, and he has a very strong melee weapons. Some of them can be used for ranged attacks as well. Cleric/Crusader is probably the most deadly one. He can fight with his mace, but his ranged magic is so good, that I'm using it most of the time. Wraithverge is now like a railgun with multiple shots perforating enemies at once. Mage is really fragile, and he needs some patience in the beginning. He starts with a weak air spell, but after finding fire/ice it gets better. But the real killers are lighting spell and the staff. You can clean rooms with them so quickly after upgrading! Druid women is interesting, but I think the hardest to master. She starts with weak dagger, and her second power is transforming into werewolf. She is strong, but the projectiles can end our life really quick. The Sceptre is great, and helps us keeping the distance and is effective even during boss fight. The magical bow is good for iron liches.

Overall great work, and I'm really enjoying the game more.
 

gerey

Arcane
Zionist Agent
Joined
Feb 2, 2007
Messages
3,472
BoA 3.1 coming in Friday
https://www.moddb.com/mods/wolfendo...f-agony-returns-release-date-vor-31-announced
Reading comments before they get deleted or else

removal of historical references towards the Holocaust

I am proud of the mod authors - it takes serious courage to challenge the mainstream narrative and acknowledge that the Holocaust is a complete fabrication.

On a separate note, I really liked playing through Abysm 1 and 2, pretty neat world exploration. I'm also eagerly awaiting the release of the Afterglow sequel, and not just because of Afterglow, but also to see one of the contributors go back and work on Iron Assault Remake.

Also, when is the full release of Trench Foot gonna be?
 

Riskbreaker

Guest
So I played a bit of Vomitoreum, commercial TC from the Shrine guy.
I'm mixed on it. The weapons are punchy, the movement is smooth, there is a fair bit of enemy variety. On the level of layouts and interconnectedness, the world is solidly designed. You've got your standard arsenal of metroidvania power-ups i.e. double jump, dash, health boosts etc.
But the combat is insanely easy, not even the bosses posed any challenge whatsoever so far (and it's not that he didn't put any effort in them, you can tell that he did what with their animations and various attacks). And the weapon progression is such that once you find a new gun there's just no use for the earlier ones rather than them being designed in a way that they fill a specific role (plus they've all got infinite ammo, so you can spray and pray to your heart's content). So it that regard it's actually a step back from Shrine 2.
 

Lagi

Savant
Joined
Jul 19, 2015
Messages
726
Location
Desert
guys, someone is sometimes reading your posts. Would be nice if you paste some movie, screen or link at least from the mod you speaking about.

 

Riskbreaker

Guest
gerey

Aye, Abysm and its sequel are pretty underrated TCs. Do try The Inquisitor 3 if you haven't already, you'll probably appreciate it as it's in the similar vein but with more lavish visuals. There's a sequel/standalone expansion to it too, Ascension, but I never tried that one.
 

The Dutch Ghost

Arbiter
Joined
May 26, 2016
Messages
681
Some new update screenshots on Ashes 2063 Afterglow

TheCalm.png


Screenshot_Doom_20210809_210258.png


Screenshot_Doom_20210809_205717.png


Screenshot_Doom_20210809_205653.png


Screenshot_Doom_20210809_210121.png
 

Junmarko

† Cristo è Re †
Patron
Joined
Jun 20, 2011
Messages
3,480
Location
Schläfertempel

An unofficial sequel to the Crusader duology by Origin Systems that also crosses over Crusader's universe with Doom's. CrusaDoom puts you once again in the role of the crimson-clad Silencer, who upon returning from the moon to Earth discovers it ravaged by a demonic invasion. This mod seeks to adapt Crusader's unique features and art style to Doom's aesthetic and core gameplay.

Initially intended as a mere meticulous recreation of Crusader: No Remorse's first map (the Refinery) as a Doom map, the project has been evolving into something different, branching the Crusader series in new directions while remaining as faithful as possible to the ethos of its source material.

We have:

  • Interactive computers, safes and other objects
  • Health and Energy regeneration pods
  • Destructable scenery
  • Lasers and force fields
  • Randomized loot boxes (the good kind)
  • Robots, both friendly and hostile
  • And much, much more!


Screenshot_Doom_20210807_213653.png


Screenshot_Doom_20210817_123234.png


CrusaDoom Beta 1.0 - Aug 18th, 2021

CrusaDoom finally enters Beta development, as I've been hard at work polishing up the gameplay, bringing it ever closer to a finalized state.

Change log:

  • The new weapons are here! Rather than rely on Doomguy's arsenal, the Silencer finally gets to use his own versions of the fist, chainsaw, pistol, shotgun, chaingun, super shotgun and rocket launcher. Replacements for the plasma rifle and BFG have not been made yet.
  • Energy cubes now replace all armor drops.
  • Human enemies now drop credits! Collect them all and get rich.
  • The loot system has been rebalanced to account for the new ammo types and items.
  • Minor adjustments to both maps.
  • A new enemy type, the Zombie Dog, is available.
  • The blood color of the Cacodemon, Baron and Hell Knight has been fixed, and is now blue and green respectively.
  • Many of Crusader's original sound effects have been added to the gameplay and across the maps where appropriate.
  • New designs are available for the main menu and intermission screen.
Instructions:

  • Press 'use' against computers, safes and locks to interact with them.
  • Shoot or punch chests to open them.
  • Some interactable objects and doorways require passwords; these can be obtained from computers.
  • The first Thermatron you encounter is friendly and can be used to your advantage.
  • Stand inside health pods to regenerate health and energy pods to regenerate armor.
  • The loot in chests is randomized. If you weren't in luck, try again!
I've included some assets that aren't used in the first two maps but will be used in later maps.

You can summon the following classes via console commands to see how they function in-game:

  • Vetron
  • Solartron
  • Cryotron
  • CDAndroid
  • Spiderbomb (not yet fully functional)

crusaderguy.PNG




rbase001.jpg
 
Last edited:

Curratum

Guest
Randi Heit is ZDoom's original creator, now a trans person as well, under the name of Marisa Heit.

Many of your favorite modern-day Doom maps are made by trans people as well, whether you realize it or not.

Surprised they haven't renamed the source port XerDoom by now.

time.png

They can't, that'd ruin GZDoom being also GrafZahlDoom and Graf would cry like a massive baby, throw a fit and threaten to leave the community.
 

Sjukob

Arcane
Joined
Jul 3, 2015
Messages
2,052
So I finished playing Auger;Zenith today. What a joy, just an excellent all around wad. There are 21 levels in total + one "thank you for playing" map. It's prime feature is cyberpunk theme with gorgeous visuals, there's some anime stuff, but it's very minor. You will go through a lot of city streets, buildings, slums, clubs, offices, there are even virtual reality segemtns, all are very well done and rich with details. The difficulty is pretty mild, with some occasional spikes here and there, crazy stuff is almost completely absent, but it has it's moments, like map 05 with it's spider mastermind, the last fight with Romero's head, the end of map 16 is a throwback to Sunlust's archvile carousel, only it's 100 times easier and map 15 is a one big gimmick.

The wad is pretty generous with ammo and weapons, expect a lot of rocket launcher and plasma gun action. The authors tried to implement some destructible environment similar to what you see in Build Engine games, of course, it's way more limited here, but it makes for some interesting moments. The maps vary in playstyle, some are very linear and other allow you to go wherever you want, despite the great number of detail I found them all easy to navigate, it unlikely that you would get confused and lost. My personal favoutive is map 17 which is a big "go wherever you want" type of map and it's very heavily cluttered with various stuff. Also, good usage of Streets of Rage music.

I strongly recommend everyone to play this.

I've already posted screenshots in the screenshots thread.
Doom Auger;Zenith
gzdoom-2021-07-22-20-49-57-39.png

gzdoom-2021-07-22-21-01-10-72.png

gzdoom-2021-07-22-22-11-01-81.png

gzdoom-2021-07-22-22-31-58-45.png

gzdoom-2021-07-22-23-10-33-86.png

gzdoom-2021-07-22-23-09-57-56.png

gzdoom-2021-07-22-20-50-11-79.png

gzdoom-2021-07-22-22-09-49-27.png

gzdoom-2021-07-22-22-18-08-50.png

gzdoom-2021-07-22-22-31-48-39.png

gzdoom-2021-07-22-22-44-24-71.png

gzdoom-2021-07-22-22-59-25-32.png

gzdoom-2021-07-22-23-08-11-35.png
Here are some extra
gzdoom-2021-07-24-20-37-42-74.png

gzdoom-2021-07-24-20-57-04-85.png

gzdoom-2021-08-21-11-56-32-28.png

gzdoom-2021-08-21-11-59-12-60.png

gzdoom-2021-08-21-18-37-53-68.png

gzdoom-2021-08-21-19-00-45-58.png

gzdoom-2021-08-21-19-03-24-53.png

gzdoom-2021-08-21-19-04-22-44.png
 

Lagi

Savant
Joined
Jul 19, 2015
Messages
726
Location
Desert
So I finished playing Auger;Zenith today. [
GREAT
very funny, and relaxing to play. I was killed by hell knight at the end of map1 (its the end i guess)...
i dont save
:whiteknight:


there could be more changes to weapons, but i think everyone has his own favorite weapon mod already
 

Sceptic

Arcane
Patron
Joined
Mar 2, 2010
Messages
10,871
Divinity: Original Sin
I think the easiest way to do this would be to go and edit the IWAD itself, if you're talking about the original episodes, and replace the bosses with the mod's version for these levels only. It's very easy to do with SLADE or Doom Builder, provided you load the mod as one of the resources; if you have absolutely no idea what I just said let me know and I can make the modification myself, it'll only take a couple of minutes.

If you mean make it so that this change happens in every WAD that uses the same end of episode bosses as original Doom, then that'd be much more complicated. I think you can make this kind of swap be level-specific (eg "swap all Barons to Bruiser Brothers but only on E1M8 of every PWAD that has Barons") with Zscript but IDK enough of that to be able to do it (and this will only work if you use GZDoom)
 

Morpheus Kitami

Liturgist
Joined
May 14, 2020
Messages
2,476
I'm not 100% certain, but I think what you're suggesting might break certain triggers in those levels. Two barons dying in E1M8 is hardcoded to drop the line 666, and I'm not sure how mods usually link these changes, but manually changing an enemy on the map itself might not allow that to work.
 

Sceptic

Arcane
Patron
Joined
Mar 2, 2010
Messages
10,871
Divinity: Original Sin
It's a little more complicated than that. Actual doom.exe code for this is pretty wonky (perhaps by design), action on sector tag 666 isn't hard coded for the barons but for anything the game considers to be "bosses". Doomsday of UAC took advantage of this way waaaaaay back by having barons AND a cyberdemon on E1M8; killing all the barons will lower all but one of the tag 666 sectors, which exposes the cyberdemon, and killing him will lower the final sector 666 to allow you to grab a key. I actually don't understand how this works, since all the sectors have the same tag, but the engine somehow differentiates between them to allow this to happen in 2 steps. What it means for TBS is that, as long as the Bruisers have this same "boss" tag, and there are no barons on the map, the Bruisers' death will trigger lowering of tag 666 sectors instead.

In any case, if he wants to use GZDoom instead, this will be immaterial since you can set any action you want on tag 666 using any monsters you want, boss or not, using MAPINFO and without touching the actual map data.
 

Alex

Arcane
Joined
Jun 14, 2007
Messages
8,750
Location
São Paulo - Brasil
Hey everyone, sorry for the slightly off-topic question, but there is something I've been wondering about for a while. Do any of you know why Doom (and other games in the same engine) mods, TCs and maps are so numerous while, say, build engine ones are not nearly as common? Does this have to do with how popular Doom is? Or maybe the open source engine implementations? Is Doom simply easier or better for modding? Or something else entirely?
 

Curratum

Guest
Doom has always had much better tools. Even in the current day and age, in Build you need to use the autistic mapster32, which is absolutely horrible as an environment and tool.

Doom has always had vastly superior editing tools of all kinds and especially now more than ever, with ZSCript in GZDoom, you get unparalleled flexibility and the ability to basically make new games. That's also why so many projects like Selaco and that other cyberpunk Doom-engine thing are turning into standalone commercial games.
 

Sceptic

Arcane
Patron
Joined
Mar 2, 2010
Messages
10,871
Divinity: Original Sin
Combination of different things I think. The way the engine itself works makes it very amenable to editing, coupled with as Curratum said very powerful tools even back then (DEU came out before even the registered Doom I, BSP just a couple of months after DEU). Carmack released the source code so long ago too, so we've had 24 years of iterating and improving and refining and adding features for some ports or knowing exactly how to keep the experience close to the original for other ports.

I think the catalyst originally was the release of Boom, one of (if not the) earliest source ports, which made a lot of changes to the underlying engine logic to enable pretty much any generalized action to be possible, so mapmakers could do so much more, and more easily, but the experience for the user was still very much Doom. Within mere months Raven released the Hexen source code, which meant ACS scripting was now also possible, and there you have it. ZDoom became a thing around the same time too, and the way it converted hard-coded engine things into scripting languages that could be easily learned and allowed you to change pretty much anything (first DECORATE to replace most DeHacked mods, then Zscript to do pretty much anything), on top of integrating ACS, and now the sky's the limit. I think that's the greatest thing about (G)ZDoom, you can count the number of things that are hard-coded on one hand.
 

Morpheus Kitami

Liturgist
Joined
May 14, 2020
Messages
2,476
I dare say a part of it is popularity. Even at the peaks of both's popularity Doom always had more people playing and tinkering with it. Duke started out more more powerful than Doom. Duke's mods and TCs were more advanced than ones from Doom until people started experimenting with Zscript. Even today its not completely true that Doom has outpaced Duke. Room over room is easier in Build than it is in Doom, but in Doom you can have 3d models, or at least a hacky way of showing 3d models. And I think Doom doesn't have a map size limitation, while Duke does.
The real problem with Duke is that all the veteran map editors have gotten used to Mapster32, and nobody has bothered to make a different mapping system. It would have been nice in 1996 in DOS, but today it has a weird control scheme and you have to alt-tab constantly in order to check the key list, a tutorial, and all that stuff. You need to remember what a button does, what that button does when you're pressing shift, ctrl, and alt. You have to remember what number a particular sound is, so that a door opening isn't silent. It has a far steeper learning curve over Doom, and unless you really need to do something that only the Build engine does, you're probably not going to go for that.
 

Sceptic

Arcane
Patron
Joined
Mar 2, 2010
Messages
10,871
Divinity: Original Sin
And I think Doom doesn't have a map size limitation
Doom has a TON of limitations on map size and what you can put in it: number of lines, number of vertices, how many sectors are adjacent, number of planes, number of sprites, how many animations, number of switches... just look up Static Limits. A big part of what made many of the earlier maps impressive was the stuff they could pull off without hitting any of these limits. Many people aren't aware of most of these because every source port since the mid-90s has increased them to more manageable levels (except Chocolate, I think). Of course this begs the question: why didn't Build modders increase the limits the same way Doomers did?

I agree with you about Zscript, and in general I think Duke was initially more popular because it is a more powerful and advanced engine. But once things like slopes and 3D floors and so on started making it into the Doom source ports (I think EDGE already had them in the late 90s) Build lost most of its edge (pun not intended), and by the time UDMF came out that was that, you could do pretty much anything in a Doom map (though obviously those maps couldn't run under doom.exe)

I didn't really notice it at the time, so this might be unintentional revisionism (I'm interested in what others think), but looking back it almost looks like everyone was expecting Doom to give way to the more advanced engines around 1997, especially after Quake came out. Just look at how things like Hacx completely failed, why Requiem is named like this (they even spell it out the txt), and many of the original early geniuses moving away from Doom after 1998. Yet here we are.
 

As an Amazon Associate, rpgcodex.net earns from qualifying purchases.
Back
Top Bottom