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Pathfinder Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous Pre-DLC Thread [GO TO NEW THREAD]

Reinhardt

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Oh, you are talking about THAT fight

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Sharpedge

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You let their archers have 1 turn where they can shoot. That was why I specified Hellknights and not the mounted scouts. The army I did that fight with only had 3 units and the Hellknights did not go before their archers. I did however have the cold nuke rather than fireball, which reduces the movement speed of their cavalry units so it couldn't reach my units, but you have the option of body blocking with the mounted scouts. Its definitely a winnable fight however.
It is winnable, but I haven't found a way to do it without losses. A single round of attacks from the archers (even after the fireball) + the stack of 750 knights is enough to fill up my infirmary. Luckily, I'm in no hurry to defeat it.
Keep in mind, so long as a stack of units is not completely reduced to 0, you can use cure wounds to heal it up and those units will not be counted towards the infirmary. My usual approach is to nuke down the heavy hitters, then finish off the remaining enemies with my units while I use cure wounds to fix up the remaining soldiers.
You let their archers have 1 turn where they can shoot. That was why I specified Hellknights and not the mounted scouts. The army I did that fight with only had 3 units and the Hellknights did not go before their archers. I did however have the cold nuke rather than fireball, which reduces the movement speed of their cavalry units so it couldn't reach my units, but you have the option of body blocking with the mounted scouts. Its definitely a winnable fight however.
Now I have to choose a cavalry unit between Paladins, Cuirassiers, Hedge Knights, and Light Cavalry, and I honestly have no idea what to base my decision on. The game is really bad at conveying information about the various available units, and I really don't know why should i pick one over the others. The Hedge Knights seem to be fairly balanced, while the Cuirassiers have high AC and HP but low damage... is there a unit which is clearly superior to the others?
Hedge Knights, Marksman and Champions all do pretty good damage, but aren't very resilient in combat. Provided you can get the enemies to actually attack the high AC and HP units, they can make for very good soaks. The main reason I opted for rangers over Marksman is because the offensive spells the caster generals have are so good that I see no reason to invest more into damage, I can just tank hits with Hellknights + Rangers (if the enemy gets near them) While throwing Scorching Rays and Fireballs with my general. Then near the end of combat I can spam cure wounds to fix up any damage that has been taken. The way the enemy AI prioritizes which units to attack is weird. I think the order the AI focuses in is Ranged Units > Clerics > Cavalry > Infantry. As a result of this you can put Champions directly next to hellknights and provided that the enemy units can actually attack the Hellknights, they will never attack the champions and you can just go ham on them. Likewise, you could just put a bunch of clerics next to a cavalry stack and your cavalry stack would never be attacked by enemy units.
 

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Keep in mind, so long as a stack of units is not completely reduced to 0, you can use cure wounds to heal it up and those units will not be counted towards the infirmary. My usual approach is to nuke down the heavy hitters, then finish off the remaining enemies with my units while I use cure wounds to fix up the remaining soldiers.
I know, but the stack of cavalry kills all my archers in a single turn. And, if I block the knights with my scouts, the damage they deal plus the attacks from the archers are enough to put me in a situation where I'm no longer able to go under the infirmary threshold. I just unlocked the decree that I can use from the map, maybe that will change things.

EDIT: what the fuck, that spell does ABSOLUTELY nothing.
 
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Aivu getting large enough to proc Frightful Presence is a highlight of the Azata run. Speaking of which; fellow liches, how did you spec the Skeletal Champion? I tried making him an armored Fighter to tank blows, but I've wondering if there's a different way for when I re-attempt the path.
 

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Aivu getting large enough to proc Frightful Presence is a highlight of the Azata run. Speaking of which; fellow liches, how did you spec the Skeletal Champion? I tried making him an armored Fighter to tank blows, but I've wondering if there's a different way for when I re-attempt the path.
Mine is an archer. He deals damage from range, there are better tanks you get from companions.
 

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Update 1.0.7c

Crusaders!

A new patch has been deployed. Note that the Mac version will be delayed by approximately two hours.

Known Issues:
  • Sometimes a 2x2 sized unit in the army window may get grayed out and be unable to move to another slot. Closing and opening the window a few times should help.
  • Spellbook may contain phantom classes with level 0 under the character classes. This is a visual issue that will be fixed soon.
Beware of possible plot spoilers below!

Quests and companions:

  • Camelia sometimes kept hiding in the basement for too long - fixed;
  • Ramien's death sometimes didn't register correctly, which led to odd situations in later chapters.
  • Mercy quest could become blocked for players visiting aasimar's basement earlier than intended - fixed;
  • Romantic brawl with Lann now has a time limit, so non-melee classes no longer take forever to end the fight;
  • Camelia can no longer miraculously appear in the party in Act 2 after being killed in Act 1.
  • Sometimes coronation for Gold Dragon could end earlier than intended - fixed;
  • It's no longer possible to meet quest characters in the barracks of Battle Bliss Arena if the player wasn't locked up;
  • If Regill died too quickly during The Final Verdict, quest NPCs could stop reacting to further actions - fixed;
  • The Last Resort quest couldn't be completed when choosing certain dialogue options - fixed;
  • Mielara Tumberd could open a portal even for a player who bargained with Nocticula, but the portal didn't work. Portal will no longer appear in such circumstances.
  • In The Final Verdict quest, Regill's pet no longer fights its master;
  • Cutscene with Hepzamirah in Colyphyr Mines no longer freezes if the player went off the Angel mythic path.
  • Fixed an issue in Once in Alushinyrra quest, where the player would be in Nocticula's palace and Yozz would only offer teleportation;
  • Fixed an issue in Chapter 5, that could lead to uninteractive quests and NPCs;
  • It was possible to proceed to Chapter IV without completing the Trickster quest, which caused an array of issues in later chapters - fixed;
  • Mephistophele now has correct stats for all mythic paths and controls the amount of his summons properly.
  • When undergoing Death's Embrace ritual without companions, attack on the top floor of the Ziggurat now begins immediately.
  • Arueshalae's alignment now changes correctly during her quests;
  • Sosiel no longer tries to draw in Nexus mines during combat;
  • In Once in Alushinyrra... quest one of dialogue lines had an incorrect speaker - fixed;
  • Assassin in Drezen now properly lies on the floor as described;
  • Aivu's Frightful presence could force certain enemies to run off the map, leading to various issues - fixed;
  • Burning Dreams quest didn't fail as intended when switching to Chapter 5 - fixed;
  • Fixed an issue that prevented the party with Ember in it from resting;
  • Rudeness to Velexia caused the game to freeze - fixed. Behave next time!
  • Fixed the case when rejecting Sosiel led to flying high up in the sky.
  • In Conspiracy in Shadows allied demons could become enemies if the player supported Nocticula - fixed;
  • When you killed Areshkagal, sometimes she didn't drop Mask of Nothing - fixed;



Locations:

  • Fixed a problem causing Drezen siege cutscene in some of the old saves to become stuck.
  • You no longer suffer from Encumbrance in Battle Bliss when separated from your party;
  • Dialogue at Desna's Altar in Lost Chapel could become unavailable - fixed;
  • It was possible to exit the Battle Bliss arena during the final battle - fixed;
  • It was impossible to leave the room in a brothel in Alushinyrra, if you loaded a save made in this room - fixed;
  • Fixed an issue in Blackwater where characters could receive a permanent electric damage debuff;
  • In Drezen player sometimes couldn't pick Mythic path in Chapter 5 because Greybor was hostile and forced combat - fixed;
  • Animal companions now correctly rest in Drezen;
  • Fixed a bug preventing an obelisk in Ineluctable Prison from destruction;
  • Fixed another case of teleporting "into the void" in Alushinyrra;


Crusade:

  • Tactical combat no longer freezes after using Mass Hideous Laughter;
  • Balance changes to one of garrison armies in chapter 3;
  • It is now possible to move a 2x2 unit one tile to the left;


Classes & Mechanics:

  • Bonuses didn't display correctly for animal companion with Animal Focus - fixed;
  • Oracle's Life Link ability continued to work incorrectly in some circumstances - fixed;
  • Damage Reduction worked incorrectly for Sneak and Precision damage - fixed;
  • Exploiter Wizard now can correctly merge his spellbook with Lich.
  • Animal companions no longer disappear in Nexus
  • Aeon finished calibrating his Bane. Now it affects buffs and effects cast by enemies.
  • Sometimes Ranger couldn't select feat from Combat Style Feat, because he already has all feats - fixed;
  • Path was calculated incorrectly in TBM when moving cursor between two close-standing enemies one of which could be reached with a 5ft step, and the other couldn't. This was one of the causes of failing touch spells - fixed;
  • Arcane Trickster's Cantrips had invalid caster level - fixed;
  • Armored Battlemage couldn't cast spells using Magus abilities - fixed;
  • A combination of Hideous Laughter + Best Jokes + Zippy Magic was so funny that it was able to freeze the game - fixed;
  • Self-imposed debuffs were being removed one frame too late, leading to features like Powerless Prophecy working one turn longer than necessary in TBM - fixed;
  • It wasn't possible to cast dismiss spell as a Thassilonian Specialist - fixed;


Items:

  • Ceremonial Falcata's effect could crash the game if you had Dreadful Carnage and fought monsters with regeneration - fixed;
  • Not enough materials were available through the course of the game for Storyteller to craft all items - fixed;
  • Menace of Death by design could grant the wearer a debuff that would stop from attacking. Now it applies a visible buff, should be less confusing.
  • Rushlight's effect lacked description and didn't give spell resistance - fixed;
  • Melazmera's treasures didn't always have a correct cost - fixed;
  • The dagger "Edge of force" wasn't adding damage to force spells as described - fixed;
  • Items would restore charges after game load - fixed;
  • Respec made some features from items permanent - fixed;


User Interface:

  • Initiative order on top of the screen could sometimes disappear - fixed;
  • There was no notification that spellcasting is forbidden by a condition resulting from Lich's Deadly Magic debuff, which could be applied to friendly characters - fixed;
  • With autofill action bar option disabled, player could experience a significant FPS drop or freeze - fixed;
  • Fixed a tooltip for Healing ability when targeting someone who has already been a target this day.


Misс

  • Fixed eternal loop of demonic portal sound on the third meeting with Vellexia.
  • You can now refuse to meet the travelling merchant;
  • Damage to attributes would disappear when loading saves - fixed.
  • Baphomet now remembers he can fly, and will no longer fall into pits.
  • Halaseliax had incorrect stats, causing him to be very weak in final combat - fixed;
  • Fixed "Allow sending of saved games" setting interfering with the actual saving process, including the Last Azlanti mode saves.
  • Gallu demons behaved incorrectly when trying to use their ability - fixed;
 
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ArchAngel

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Not realistic, her right boob would need to be cut off so she can still continue being the best killer in the game.
She is usually specced for dual wielding, so cut off either both breasts or none.
Why would you reduce her DPS by half?! And reduce both her boobs to nothing. They would both be in the way if she was trying to do a two weapon dance in melee range.

You yeet the axes, dual wielding throwing axe slayer is probably the optimal build on her. Full BAB and sneak attacks, and it does not waste her early feats.
I specced her into slayer (with freebooter splash for bond) now and she suddenly became the strongest member of my team.
Bows can go to a traditional ranger with aspect of the falcon and stormbow.
Why would you do that? You need to spend more feats to get more attacks while with bow you can just use ManyShot. You got lower range than bows and have to waste turns moving into range and you need to waste two Greater Magic Weapon spells to enchant both axes. Also you cannot use special quivers. And base damage is worse.
Does at least Rapid Shot work with two weapon fighting and throwing axes? Even if it does you now need to spend two mythic abilities to remove both penalties...
Oh and bows are 20(x3) and throwing axes are 20(x2).
 
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Daidre

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They have duplicate strings even in patch notes. :obviously:

Tactical combat no longer freezes after using Mass Hideous Laughter;

Rejoice.

I am too busy rejoicing over:
With autofill action bar option disabled, player could experience a significant FPS drop or freeze - fixed;

This shit was driving my crazy for a 4 weeks:

there is one bug drives me nuts: adding and removing new spell and abilities in Spells/Abilities menus sometimes sends those menus into what looks like endless redraw loop. And while glitched out character is selected, game's FPS plummets and the whole thing stutter like crazy. How often that happens is depends on character class of course, but that bug makes shapeshifting just... painful.

So they DO read my bugreports!
 

NJClaw

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Sharpedge, in the end I did it by exploiting the AI. I rearranged the units, positioning the marksmen on the opposite side. This way, the stack of knights wasted a turn trying to reach them and that was enough to reduce their number to the point that they would no longer one-shot my marksmen.
 

Sharpedge

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Sharpedge, in the end I did it by exploiting the AI. I rearranged the units, positioning the marksmen on the opposite side. This way, the stack of knights wasted a turn trying to reach them and that was enough to reduce their number to the point that they would no longer one-shot my marksmen.
I see my comment about their AI was of some use after all :D
 

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My team has the sexiest and deadliest waifus you can recruit.
Choosing between Wenduag and Lann feels like a no-brainer given that Lann is straight up better ranged attacker at least in the early portion of the game. It would've been more difficult choice if Wenduag was attractive and offered to suck your dick.
 
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PrK

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I'm very into cock and ball torture

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I don’t any amulet of clarity and war mage staff doesn’t stack with magicians ring. DC is 26 (all the things I mentioned before) and as I said they have +18-20 on saves. I don’t know what crack your smoking but nenio is useless besides having greater heroism and being able to summon elementals for temporary damage sponges.

With Nenio you sometimes don't even have to try:
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Does someone know where the demon assassin Yozz is in Act 5, for the quest Conspiracy in Shadows. He said he would take me to the demon city but I wanted some time to prepare. He said he would wait in Drezen but I can't find him anywhere.

He's in the courtyard of the citadel.
Thank you, I finally found him. I'Ve always missed him before because he wasn't indicated on the minimap and he has the same model as all those other incubi? that run around in my demon castle which left me thinking he was just a random demon. I guess that's on me for relying to much on the minimap.

 

Reinhardt

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Serious question - why almost everyone on codex using pics of some ugly ass homo helmets for mc? Spikes, horns, tusks. You really think it looks cool or something? At least make it proper crusader helmet or something.
 

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