Same, it was barebones but relaxing.
The only thing I didn’t like about it was when animals spawned right behind me a handful of times, nearly shit my pants when it happened.
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Ryu Ga Gotoku Studio (Yakuza, Judgment, Binary Domain + more!) Discussion Thread
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The only thing I didn’t like about it was when animals spawned right behind me a handful of times, nearly shit my pants when it happened.
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Try three bears at once. Rifle butted them to death because I got mad.
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Ah, right, sorry. I didn't really have a problem with it. Thought it made for a nice change of pace and new challenges. It was obvious it was also going to connect to the main story somehow, so I was fine with putting up with all the frustrating characters, too.
I agree, it was long-winded and being unable to save for the first 2-3 hours made it quite annoying. I really enjoyed the atmosphere of the chapter, though.
TheImplodingVoice
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I also liked the little snowy mountain village. Especially how quiet it is. But going for the platinum not once but twice(PS3 and PS4) was such a slog. But the 60FPS made it a bit easier in some instances on PS4. Where with Yakuza 3 and 4 then 60FPS made some things for the platinums more difficult. I wish Dead Souls got a remaster as well. Recently played through it again on PS3 and it's bat shit crazy over the top fun
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Bros {drunken thoughts}, I'm having a lot of fun with Like a Dragon (aside from having to go through the whole Sotenbori arena to level up enough to beat my favorite character).
I just wanted to relay how good playing the game feels. Whoever is responsible for directing this game has done a really good job, better than all the games before it, even. It's not just the extravagance of it all, love to attention oozes out of every pore of the game. I expected something bad, glad to see I was wrong. I'm just sad about things plot-wise past chapter 12, but eager to see where it all ends up. Definitely don't want an end to our favorite criminal organization.
I just wanted to relay how good playing the game feels. Whoever is responsible for directing this game has done a really good job, better than all the games before it, even. It's not just the extravagance of it all, love to attention oozes out of every pore of the game. I expected something bad, glad to see I was wrong. I'm just sad about things plot-wise past chapter 12, but eager to see where it all ends up. Definitely don't want an end to our favorite criminal organization.
cruel
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Finished Like a Dragon few days ago. Fun game, everybody who likes JRPG should play it, very interesting take on JRPG in modern city and quite unique experience. Still, I can't stop feeling that the game could have been so much better with some different design decisions. 8/10 overall.
My main complaint: combat, while fun, gets boring pretty quickly. It is missing 'something', and it's hard for me to define this something. Clearly enemy variety is a problem, as the mobs don't differ that much between each other, and at some point it becomes just 'oh man, another yakuza to beat'. Second, the game never really surprises you (with regards to combat), after the initial hours. Maybe some kind of weakness system would help, more randomness, maybe enemies being able to attack from behind, more ambushes, more deadly status effects, etc. At some point I found myself just avoiding encounters, because had enough of them.
Second complaint - difficulty. Come on. It took me 80h to beat the game, playing slowly, and there were only 3 cases when any difficulty was present:
- wandering to high-level area early on (Hamakita Park)
- boss in chapter 12 (although much easier than I expected)
- final boss
That's it. And this is not something budget-related, could be fixed easily bo some kind of 'bonfire aesthetic' equivalent (harder enemies for more exp / rewards). Or just some creative / hard optional fights. If you dip your characters into other classes, and make sure that highest-agility character has 'shield blast' from enforcer class, 90%+ of random encounters are finished in 30s or so.
Third - plot is a mess. I didn't really like the plot development starting in chapter 6, some of the stuff was just stupid, not believable. Examples in spoilers:
But, so many thins were done right (characters, uniqueness, humor, sidequests, etc.), that I had enough fun to enjoy the experience. Probably will buy a sequel day 1, hoping they will fix some of the issues.
My main complaint: combat, while fun, gets boring pretty quickly. It is missing 'something', and it's hard for me to define this something. Clearly enemy variety is a problem, as the mobs don't differ that much between each other, and at some point it becomes just 'oh man, another yakuza to beat'. Second, the game never really surprises you (with regards to combat), after the initial hours. Maybe some kind of weakness system would help, more randomness, maybe enemies being able to attack from behind, more ambushes, more deadly status effects, etc. At some point I found myself just avoiding encounters, because had enough of them.
Second complaint - difficulty. Come on. It took me 80h to beat the game, playing slowly, and there were only 3 cases when any difficulty was present:
- wandering to high-level area early on (Hamakita Park)
- boss in chapter 12 (although much easier than I expected)
- final boss
That's it. And this is not something budget-related, could be fixed easily bo some kind of 'bonfire aesthetic' equivalent (harder enemies for more exp / rewards). Or just some creative / hard optional fights. If you dip your characters into other classes, and make sure that highest-agility character has 'shield blast' from enforcer class, 90%+ of random encounters are finished in 30s or so.
Third - plot is a mess. I didn't really like the plot development starting in chapter 6, some of the stuff was just stupid, not believable. Examples in spoilers:
- chapter 6: a mysterious / secretive organization just INVITES a bunch of random people to share all their secrets, which are the fundament of city financial stability 
Come on.
- Nanba actions after chapter 6: he is not dumb and knew what the consequences may be, not believable looking at his character
- chapter 13 (coin locker surprise): two babies put in a coin locker in same place, on same night. Yeah right.
- Arakawa going alone in the middle of the night, right after he made the decision that clearly made a lot of people pissed at him
- Ryo Aoki: were they really not able to find dirt on him (his past) earlier?
Come on.- Nanba actions after chapter 6: he is not dumb and knew what the consequences may be, not believable looking at his character
- chapter 13 (coin locker surprise): two babies put in a coin locker in same place, on same night. Yeah right.
- Arakawa going alone in the middle of the night, right after he made the decision that clearly made a lot of people pissed at him
- Ryo Aoki: were they really not able to find dirt on him (his past) earlier?
But, so many thins were done right (characters, uniqueness, humor, sidequests, etc.), that I had enough fun to enjoy the experience. Probably will buy a sequel day 1, hoping they will fix some of the issues.
) mama from Earth Angel again, that's a throwback. 
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I'm now at chapter 12. No spoilers, please. 70 hours played. I would probably be done now, if it wasn't for all the side stuff that I have been doing. Good times. I still intend to do more side stuff. I haven't even touched golf or the batting center. 120 hours is what I expect to spend on the game.
After this, I will probably do Yakuza 6, in backlog since day one. After that, FotNs, and then the two Judgment games, but first a break.
After this, I will probably do Yakuza 6, in backlog since day one. After that, FotNs, and then the two Judgment games, but first a break.
The end of Chapter 12 is my favorite part of the game. The song 'Comeback' is the best. I'm not sure if Comeback is the official name of the song, but it's part of the chorus and put a smile on my face. You are in for a treat.
karoliner
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About to begin my Kiwami 2 playthrough for the first time (only did the intro just to verify the game runs acceptably), and something Modron said got me thinking: he was commenting that the combat in Kiwami 2 was a big step down from 0 and Kiwami 1, and that he was forced to use the same tactics/moves over and over again, ad nauseum, just to be able to get through encounters, and I ended up finding this:
The video isn't about the game's performance or "cinematic feel" at all, the reason he says 30fps is better for Kiwami 2 is because apparently the game's combat is completely broken at 60fps. Enemy AI functions twice as fast as intended so stun duration is halved or more, AI blocks twice as fast and twice as often, skips actions or goes through them too fast, and most importantly... the input queue buffer/input leniency is halved (or more) and makes combo'ing impossible or almost impossible.
Some comments from Kiwami 2 players:
And this comment mirrors what I heard from others:
Oh, also the mini-games are broken on 60fps as well. There is a patch that fixes the mini-games for 60fps but it doesn't fix the combat/A.I. issues.
The video isn't about the game's performance or "cinematic feel" at all, the reason he says 30fps is better for Kiwami 2 is because apparently the game's combat is completely broken at 60fps. Enemy AI functions twice as fast as intended so stun duration is halved or more, AI blocks twice as fast and twice as often, skips actions or goes through them too fast, and most importantly... the input queue buffer/input leniency is halved (or more) and makes combo'ing impossible or almost impossible.
Some comments from Kiwami 2 players:
And this comment mirrors what I heard from others:
Oh, also the mini-games are broken on 60fps as well. There is a patch that fixes the mini-games for 60fps but it doesn't fix the combat/A.I. issues.
karoliner
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I actually suggest to skip Kiwami 2. It's not just that the combat is a downgrade but the story just isn't as interesting. And it was like this in the original PS2 game too.
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I just lost a certain battle against two bros in chapter 12 (Like A Dragon). I forgot that it's game over when Kasuga gets KO'd. Restarting cost me 17 million yen.
Other than that, so far chapter 12...
Yes, there are a few specific boss bottles in the game that are nigh unbeatable if you're underleveled. Other than those, the game is piss easy battle-wise, but the series has always had balance problems.
For that specific one you mention, you're supposed to beat the nearby arena to get some levels at minimum. Took me about an hour to do so I believe? It's worth it, you get to fight some interesting enemies.
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Disagree. There aren't enough decent games to play if you game often. Even the worst entries in the Yakuza series are still much better than anything released in the west, so 2 is still worth playing. Fuck it, I'd rather play the minigames in Yakuza than modern western vomit.
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No reason to skip 2 anyways not like the series increases in quality with each entry. I enjoyed them all mind you but Yakuza 5 in particular was a slog (especially the Saejima segment) and of course they then over corrected with the sixth one as a full completionist run can be finished in under 50-60 hours.
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Modron
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Don't act like Saejima segment wasn't half Yakuza 5's length, first you run around Kamurucho, then fart around prison, then mountain snow village replete with boring hunting minigame, then whatever that northern city was called, and this isn't even counting later chapters playing as him.
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