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After having lurked for so long I thought I would get ripped pretty hard at first for my "join date". 140 ish comments and a month to the date later and you are the first one to mention it (besides myself). What does that say about you?
 

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Not really. It's people sick of companies ruining the genre with politics and virtue signaling bullshit, people who just want games as entertainment and not as political platforms, calling it out is a must if its ever going to stop.

Yeah. God thanks there was no politics in Fallout, VtMB, Arcanum, etc. None at all dude.

if you don't understand the difference between woke politics in games that is poorly written and often not even making sense (even ruining the atmosphere/lore instead of adding to it) and there only for the company to virtue signal and games with politics as a well written theme for the story, then i don't know what to say.

You sound like a fucking right-wing caricature. Try to use your own brain before you write something.
 
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fallout was a critique of communists always flipping over the table when they're losing :buildawall:
Communists were winning the war before the bombs fell...
  • 2067 The first suit of Power Armor is deployed in Alaska. While lacking the full mobility of future versions, this Power Armor is incredibly effective against Chinese tanks and infantry. Its ability to carry heavy ordinance becomes key in various localized conflicts, and it has the power to destroy entire towns without endangering the wearer. China rushes to create its own versions, but they are many years behind the United States.
  • 2076 June Power Armor prototype completed, resulting in the Power Armor players find in Fallout 1. This is the pinnacle of Power Armor technology before the Great War. Many of these units are sent to China, and they begin to carve a swath through the Chinese forces. The Chinese resources are strained to the breaking point, and the supply lines from the nations China has annexed begin to break down.
  • 2077 January 10 Alaska is reclaimed, and the Anchorage Front Line is again held by the Americans.

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Not really. It's people sick of companies ruining the genre with politics and virtue signaling bullshit, people who just want games as entertainment and not as political platforms, calling it out is a must if its ever going to stop.

Yeah. God thanks there was no politics in Fallout, VtMB, Arcanum, etc. None at all dude.

if you don't understand the difference between woke politics in games that is poorly written and often not even making sense (even ruining the atmosphere/lore instead of adding to it) and there only for the company to virtue signal and games with politics as a well written theme for the story, then i don't know what to say.

You sound like a fucking right-wing caricature. Try to use your own brain before you write something.

And you sound like a very typical NPC, thus you have no brain, just a useless script that isn't even your own.
 

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Not really. It's people sick of companies ruining the genre with politics and virtue signaling bullshit, people who just want games as entertainment and not as political platforms, calling it out is a must if its ever going to stop.

Yeah. God thanks there was no politics in Fallout, VtMB, Arcanum, etc. None at all dude.

if you don't understand the difference between woke politics in games that is poorly written and often not even making sense (even ruining the atmosphere/lore instead of adding to it) and there only for the company to virtue signal and games with politics as a well written theme for the story, then i don't know what to say.

You sound like a fucking right-wing caricature. Try to use your own brain before you write something.

Meanwhile you don't even have enough brainpower to recognize the difference between political themes that are in tune with the setting (be it fantasy, sci-fi, historical etc) and the pushing of a political agenda that clashes with the setting's overall tone.

As much as I love our dear Führer, I would still find a medieval fantasy game that pushes National Socialist ideology using Hitler's own terminology to be jarring, because it doesn't fit into a medieval fantasy setting. Just as Marxist ideology and Marx's terminology don't fit. Both belong firmly to the industrial age, as both are movements born as a reaction to a changing world. Medieval people would never come up with either ideology, because they have a completely different frame of reference.

If you want your setting to be believable, you have to write the political and social issues of the world in a way that reflects the lived reality of the people in that world. 20th and 21st century political concepts have no place in a medievalesque society.
(Even the tendency to mix elements of classical antiquity, the high middle ages, and the renaissance in the same setting is slightly jarring, but that's a different problem entirely... although its cause is similar to that of inserting 21st century ideas into medievalesque worlds: the writers have no idea how societies of the past functioned and how and why people thunk the way they did)

The top priority of any worldbuilding should be to create an immersive setting you can get lost in, a place that feels real despite being made up.
Any elements that clash with the overall tone and presentation of a setting therefore are bad and counter-productive.

I don't mind the politics in Disco Elysium, for example, because that game is set in a fantasy world equivalent to our 20th century in its political, social, and technological development. Communism, fascism, libertarianism all have their place in that world and it makes sense for them to exist.
 
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The argument that VTMB had anti-republican political commentary is funny because they always overlook the anti-democrat commentary in the same fucking game.
They're probably too young(or non-american) to even get the reference so it goes right over their head.
 
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If you want your setting to be believable, you have to write the political and social issues of the world in a way that reflects the lived reality of the people in that world.
True!

As much as I love our dear Führer,
Disgusting! Your personal and political views doesn't fit the topics setting. This makes your contribution unbelievable.
 

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What are we discussing again? I skimmed the seven pages of the bye-bye thread over there. How much moderation is over there? Were posts erased, posts edited by mods, posters temp/perma banned, ip locked out? Were/are certain opinions NOT allowed?
 
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fallout was a critique of communists always flipping over the table when they're losing :buildawall:
just realized a bunch of non-americans love fallout because they thought it was anti-capitalist lol

outerworlds is basically fallout except communists didn't nuke the world, they went on to explore the stars
 

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What are we discussing again? I skimmed the seven pages of the bye-bye thread over there. How much moderation is over there? Were posts erased, posts edited by mods, posters temp/perma banned, ip locked out? Were/are certain opinions NOT allowed?

More than half of this thread would have been deleted.
 

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KeighnMcDeath

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Oh fuck that!

Sooooooo..... maybe not moderate over there and beg for cash and it can stay open? Sounds like an easy fix. Not that I care....
 

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