Yosharian
Arcane
That's interesting but the radius alone is not necessarily indicative of how animal companions will perform in the actual game
That's for WotR, is it the same for Kingmaker? In theory should be but knowing Owlcat programming prowess of late... Also why is that horse is the only one that doesn't grow in size? I didn't play WotR long enough to know.There is a very nice size comparison guide on Steam https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2594856263, so smallest pet are Horse and Wolf, not even a Leopard. It is for the Wrath, but I do not think old pets changed since Kingmaker.Leopard for the win!
Alright but it's still the same as any other creature with LP on right?A Horse grows Huge with Animal Growth and Gargantuan with Legendary Proportions.
Which is... not great for pathfinding, bodyblocking of allies or mapping paths for a mounted charge...
By the way, I feel like the pet strat got indirectly nerfed in wrath by the sheer amount of fight you have to take in small corridor, and you can easley get fucked by being bottlenecked. I had to reload a couple of fight because bismuth fat ass got in the way.
Alright but it's still the same as any other creature with LP on right?A Horse grows Huge with Animal Growth and Gargantuan with Legendary Proportions.
Which is... not great for pathfinding, bodyblocking of allies or mapping paths for a mounted charge...
All pets walking sideways or even backward after 1.3( I suspect it sometimes happens when you open inventory while they are moving at the moment.Also, does anyone else have a thing where he starts walking sideways and you have to actually go back to main menu and reload to reset it (just reloading won't do)?
Bismuth is really cute, but I've given up on him, he's such a PITA (especially with the constant unloading of gear).
All pets walking sideways or even backward after 1.3( I suspect it sometimes happens when you open inventory while they are moving at the moment.Also, does anyone else have a thing where he starts walking sideways and you have to actually go back to main menu and reload to reset it (just reloading won't do)?
Owlcat's bugfixing skills(
Err so a Horse with LP on is much bigger than, say, Bismuth with LP on?Alright but it's still the same as any other creature with LP on right?A Horse grows Huge with Animal Growth and Gargantuan with Legendary Proportions.
Which is... not great for pathfinding, bodyblocking of allies or mapping paths for a mounted charge...
No, other pets get +1 Size from Legendary Proportions. A Horse gets +2 Size increases.
More importantly, most pets get +0 Size from Animal Growth. A Horse gets +1 Size from AG.
Err so a Horse with LP on is much bigger than, say, Bismuth with LP on?Alright but it's still the same as any other creature with LP on right?A Horse grows Huge with Animal Growth and Gargantuan with Legendary Proportions.
Which is... not great for pathfinding, bodyblocking of allies or mapping paths for a mounted charge...
No, other pets get +1 Size from Legendary Proportions. A Horse gets +2 Size increases.
More importantly, most pets get +0 Size from Animal Growth. A Horse gets +1 Size from AG.
Are you sure? In Wrath it definitely adds a +1-5 bonus on top of your shield bonus.EDIT: It seems w/ shields it sets the enhancement to +1 to +5, but with armor it always stacks with everything. I'm assuming its a bug and should be setting enhancement bonus for armor the same way. Also the armor version works on pets which makes no sense, but hey, even more stupidly powerful pet build things to spam. Game should be called Petfinder: Good boy maker.
The way it is meant to work in Pathfinder is that an enhancement bonus, rather than being considered a 'separate' bonus, improves an existing armour bonus.
From what I can tell Magic Vestments should just work on everything. https://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/m/magic-vestment/ mentions it working on regular clothing. From what I can tell this is how it currently works for armor in Kingmaker, you can be naked and still get up to +5 (which is probably why it works on pets). It just shouldn't stack with already existing enhancement bonuses.And also people get really upset when you try to say that bracers of armour should count for the purposes of magic vestment because apparently that isn't how the imaginary spell works
Nah, that's how it works in Pathfinder. In Wrath it just gives you an additional +5 that's completely separate from other bonuses. You have to be carrying a shield to be able to benefit from the shield one though.The way it is meant to work in Pathfinder is that an enhancement bonus, rather than being considered a 'separate' bonus, improves an existing armour bonus.
So casting a level 20 magical vestments on a shield/armor +1 should improve it to shield/armor +5? Is that how it works in Wrath?
From what I can tell Magic Vestments should just work on everything. https://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/m/magic-vestment/ mentions it working on regular clothing. From what I can tell this is how it currently works for armor in Kingmaker, you can be naked and still get up to +5 (which is probably why it works on pets). It just shouldn't stack with already existing enhancement bonuses.And also people get really upset when you try to say that bracers of armour should count for the purposes of magic vestment because apparently that isn't how the imaginary spell works
As for bracers, Magic Vestment categorically does not work on them by RAW. Which is annoying as hell.
As for bracers, Magic Vestment categorically does not work on them by RAW. Which is annoying as hell.
Well it doesn't matter much. According to the rules it works on unenchanted clothing, so the only instance in which this would matter is if you were completely naked except for wearing bracers. If you have both bracers and clothes then it wouldn't matter whether the spell is technically affecting your bracers or your clothes.
Nah man you're not getting it, let's say I'm wearing bracers +5, and clothing, and I cast a level 20 magic vestment spell on myself - I get zero improvement to my AC, because the spell only works on my clothing, boosting it to a 5 AC. So I end up with two items that grant the same 5 AC bonus, which don't stackAs for bracers, Magic Vestment categorically does not work on them by RAW. Which is annoying as hell.
Well it doesn't matter much. According to the rules it works on unenchanted clothing, so the only instance in which this would matter is if you were completely naked except for wearing bracers. If you have both bracers and clothes then it wouldn't matter whether the spell is technically affecting your bracers or your clothes.
Nah man you're not getting it, let's say I'm wearing bracers +5, and clothing, and I cast a level 20 magic vestment spell on myself - I get zero improvement to my AC, because the spell only works on my clothing, boosting it to a 5 AC. So I end up with two items that grant the same 5 AC bonus, which don't stack
In PnP they would most definitely not stack. Adding an "armor enhancement bonus" to your clothing doesn't give you an "armor enhancement bonus" to your AC. It simply makes your clothing give you an armor bonus. Similarly, in PnP, the bonus from the spell isn't supposed to improve an already existing enhancement bonus, only the higher one would apply.These should stack even if they are on separate items because they are separate categories