Game News Bioshock was basically a sequence of failures and errors

[DarkUnderlord]

Tags: BioShock

"<a href="http://www.developmag.com/news/30030/Bioshock-was-a-sequence-of-failures-and-errors">2K Boston's Chris Kline on how embracing bad decisions lead to one of 2007's biggest games:</a>"
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<blockquote>"Bioshock was basically a sequence of failures and errors," he said. "But every one of them was a good thing - it forced us to look at the game and reassess what we had, which worked in our favour."
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Charting the development of the product back to 2002, Kline pinpointed almost a dozen points at which wrong decisions or wrong paths were taken, ranging from bad middleware decisions right at the start of the project to the team's original misguided decision to simply remake System Shock 2, a game that had failed commercially despite universal critical acclaim.</blockquote>
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One wonders how computer games actually manage to ever get made. If that's not enough for you, <a href="http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=19146">head on over to Gamasutra and read another summary of the same stuff</a>.
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[pkt-zer0]

the team's original misguided decision to simply remake System Shock 2, a game that had failed commercially despite universal critical acclaim.

Isn't that what they ended up doing anyway?

 

[Kingston]

Uhh... news?

 

[fizzelopeguss]

Sick of hearing about this game, it was decent...let's move on.

 

[doctor_kaz]

the team's original misguided decision to simply remake System Shock 2, a game that had failed commercially despite universal critical acclaim.

Wow. They are actually admitting this?

 

[Rhett Butler]

I've not played Bioshock, but nothing I have heard about it has lead me to believe it's an RPG. Am I wrong?

 

[WhiskeyWolf]

I've not played Bioshock, but nothing I have heard about it has lead me to believe it's an RPG. Am I wrong?

No.

 

[Jasede]

Oh, no, you are wrong, it is an RPG. On the Codex everything is an RPG: Space Rangers 2, Master of Magic, Deus Ex, System Shock 2, King of the Dragon Pass (a fucking strategy game, Christ), Star Control 2 - it's all RPG, so definitely Bioshock too. But most of all Halo.

 

[DarkUnderlord]

I've not played Bioshock, but nothing I have heard about it has lead me to believe it's an RPG. Am I wrong?

Duh, you play the role of Jack and it has stats which you level up. It also has profound choices and consequences. That absolutely makes it a role-playing game.

Uhh... news?

Very little for the past few days and how could I possibly turn down a news item title like that?

 

[Admiral Rimjob POOBUM]

No seriously why do you keep posting Bioshock news

 

[Section8]

 

[Kingston]

No seriously, that's the fourth Bioshock newspost in three days. And do we really care if there are no newsposts for a couple of days?

 

[Black_Willow]

Oh, no, you are wrong, it is an RPG. On the Codex everything is an RPG: Space Rangers 2, Master of Magic, Deus Ex, System Shock 2, King of the Dragon Pass (a fucking strategy game, Christ), Star Control 2 - it's all RPG, so definitely Bioshock too. But most of all Halo.

You forgot to mention The Witcher.

 

[pkt-zer0]

Oh, no, you are wrong, it is an RPG. On the Codex everything is an RPG: Space Rangers 2, Master of Magic, Deus Ex, System Shock 2, King of the Dragon Pass (a fucking strategy game, Christ), Star Control 2 - it's all RPG, so definitely Bioshock too. But most of all Halo.

You forgot to mention The Witcher.

And the Gothic series, while you're at it.

 

[Kraszu]

Oh, no, you are wrong, it is an RPG. On the Codex everything is an RPG: Space Rangers 2, Master of Magic, Deus Ex, System Shock 2, King of the Dragon Pass (a fucking strategy game, Christ), Star Control 2 - it's all RPG, so definitely Bioshock too. But most of all Halo.

You forgot to mention The Witcher.

And the Gothic series, while you're at it.

OH NOES DECLINE OF THE CODEX!!! :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

 

[Trash]

Isn't every product basically a sequence of failures and errors?

 

[Occasionally Fatal]

Thinking about it, System Shock 2 didn't have too many RPG elements either beyond the inventory and class based character system, did it?

 

[Jasede]

Oh just you wait; given time enough people on the Codex will start defending it as being an RPG (as opposed to a hybrid, just like people call Deus Ex an RPG here as of the last two or three years, damn TESF).

 

[Trash]

All that nitpicking is lame and incredibly anal. Deus Ex is a great game, so is SS2. That's all that matters to me.

 

[JarlFrank]

They're great games with RPG elements. But not RPGs. But they have RPG elements so we can make newsposts about them.

Also, calling SS2, Bioshock or Deus Ex RPGs is retarded. They're shooters with some light to heavy RPG influences. At their heart, they're still non-linear shooters and not RPGs.

 

[Kingston]

Bioshock has RPG elements?

WHAT?

 

[Jasede]

Deus Ex is a great game, so is SS2. That's all that matters to me.

Everyone should be like you.

 

[Trash]

I know, I'm working on that.