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Do you think there should be an option for turning InGame Jokes on/off?

  • Yes.

    Votes: 11 23.9%
  • No.

    Votes: 35 76.1%

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It was mentioned a few posts ago.
 
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Then again we got the Crazy Wasteland of whatever the fuck it was ; a trait for FO:NV that enables "funny" references and wacky shit. You prefer your game world to be serious and believable? Dont pick that.

Thing is that WW just removed a few select jokes/references. Which shows the problem with the "toggle" proposed by OP: how do you define which jokes should stay regardless of the selected option? What is "appropriate for the setting"? The developers sit on a table to throw the "inappropriate" jokes into a pile and the lore-ok jokes into the other? I can't think of a more lifeless way to tackle humour in a game.
 

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An overload of not all that good in-game jokes kind of ruined FO2 for me. There is a little here and there, but they went a little overboard in that game. Of course, I never saw a lot of the in-game jokes in FO1, having used Luck as a dump stat until I read more on the game. The jokes in FO1 were fresh (the descriptions of kangaroo bones, and the like.) However, I think FO2 the humor may have distracted a little too much from the the story. That didn't stop me from playing the game 5x, just that it seemed the jokes pulled at the fabric of the story more than in FO1.
 

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Other than the quite rare two encounters of Arthur and the search for Holy Hand Grenade i dont think Fallout 2 crack in-jokes that often.

You sure? 'Cause I'm replaying it at the moment and constantly tripping on some shit like Cassidy referencing Preacher, Tragic the Gathering cards and some nerd ghoul liking them, robot in Clamath quoting Terminator, talking molerat named Brain, etc., etc.
 

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I dont know, you watch too much of that shit? You remind me of Sinophiles I know. They can quote Chinese historical events and names right back at me for any texts they lay eyes on. ANd they are not even chinese.

PLay more, read more, and wider, goddamnit!

EDIT: it's not to disparage you or them. Cause I used to be a mild case of Sinophile, then a mild case of Nihonphile. Now that I play more western games and read more us novels, I get a mild case of Kwanophile. Horrible affliction, I know.
 

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Real world pop culture references are virtually never funny. Lowest common denominator Family Guy humour.
 

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I liked the rant, but I am fine with playing the game as the developer intended(tm).

Although I still get the shivers thinking about that Star Trek shuttle in Fallout 2.
 

zwanzig_zwoelf

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There were some jokes and references in Chronicles of Riddick: Escape from Butcher Bay, but they didn't destroy the overall atmosphere. In fact, they kinda added to it.
For example, prisoners discussing Sigmund Freud, or Riddick makes some jokes about
Jones sucking Abbot's cock.
 

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I love Monty Python jokes and all kinds of external/pop culture puns and references. It's a great 1980s tradition. Bring on the terrible puns, I say!

I also generally dislike video games that take themselves too seriously.
 

Severian Silk

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I liked the jokes in F01 well enough. The crashed whale, tardis, Seinfeld parody, etc.. I agree that FO2 "tried too hard" (in general IMO).
 

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Other than the quite rare two encounters of Arthur and the search for Holy Hand Grenade i dont think Fallout 2 crack in-jokes that often.

Bitch you crazy.

I was gonna say something similar, but loclongquan at least stated his case: He doesn't know western pop culture that well.

Fallout 2 was released 15 years ago, and over 400 (pop) culture references have been found in it. (The internet likes to call them "shout-outs" nowadays.) That's a huge number that makes other joke-heavy games like Duke Nukem 3D, Blood and Serious Sam pale in comparison. Fallout 1 had its share, but there they at least tried to make them fit in with the setting, with only the South Park reference being out of line by most accounts.

In fact, I've been keeping an eye on games that are heavy on the humour to see if any of them could ever beat Fallout 2. I'm going to say that it took Dungeons of Dredmor to finally accomplish that.

(When DOES the first Fallout 2 "shout-out" occur, anyway? You're hit with a slew of them in Klamath, but are there any in Arroyo? Can't remember.)

Severian Silk said:
I liked the jokes in F01 well enough. The crashed whale, tardis, Seinfeld parody, etc.. I agree that FO2 "tried too hard" (in general IMO).

While I don't remember a Seinfeld joke in either Fallout game, the crashed whale was in Fallout 2.
 

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Jokes work well with good writing, they become obnoxious when shitty writers use them to try to cover their bad writing...
 

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Voted Yes the more victimization and powah to player the better; although its bad game which takes herself too seriously and F02 gained by not being all grim-dark all the time.

and what comrade Mondblut have said. :bro:
 

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Do you think there should be an option for turning InGame Jokes on/off?

-Yes !












...but only if there's also an option for turning all in game seriousness on/off.














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God damnit. I hate in game jokes, especially when I'm fucking playing a medieval adventure and all I want is to be totally immersed into the lore and shit when suddenly a shitty joke about Olympics or golf hits me in the nuts and wakes me up from my sweet reverie. I mean what the fuck writers? You think you are witty and smart and that those little jokes flying around the office will fit just fine into a game I AM PLAYING? No you stupid fucks, no, for fucks sake NO!
I mean, I can taste a little subtle joke about modern days as long as it's subtler than a pixie's fart, but when you are doing an adventure/rpg game CLEARLY set in FANTASY lore/times and NOT A PARODY GAME OF SORTS like one adventure I played some time ago with a wizard in a tower who watched Super Bowl (which I don't get because I'm a sophisticated european) then you DON'T MAKE JOKES about anything related to modern times.
Sure, name characters after developers, I don't mind. Put a little story here and there that has context for you and your people and maybe later in an interview tell us all about it, but DON'T SPOIL MY GAME WITH YOUR SHITTY JOKES!

Yes Heroine's Quest, I am talking about you.
Mumblemore, really? Harry Potter references? Asking witches/seers about who will win the 2014 Olympics? Talking about golf in the forest? And I'm just somewhere at the beggining of the game. Who knows how many more await the unwary gamer!

I wish there was an option in a game where you could disable those modern world references. I think the only purpose of these little jokes make devs feel like there are connected to the game and they feel so sure about the quality of their game that a little reference here and there won't ruin the experience of the game. That and they get to brag to others.

I think one of the Gothics had something like a sign on a hill where there was a list of devs, but I'm not sure. Anyway, that shit works because the ratio of modern reference to game lore is like 0.001 to 100.

Spill your beans about the subject.

sup Drog
 

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Other than the quite rare two encounters of Arthur and the search for Holy Hand Grenade i dont think Fallout 2 crack in-jokes that often.
I dont know, you watch too much of that shit? You remind me of Sinophiles I know. They can quote Chinese historical events and names right back at me for any texts they lay eyes on. ANd they are not even chinese.

PLay more, read more, and wider, goddamnit!

EDIT: it's not to disparage you or them. Cause I used to be a mild case of Sinophile, then a mild case of Nihonphile. Now that I play more western games and read more us novels, I get a mild case of Kwanophile. Horrible affliction, I know.
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_2_cultural_references

There is thin line between not being knowledgeable about a subject and being dense and you, my friend seem closer to second one.
 
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Depends on the tone the game sets. Though for one thing, I have nothing against referencing a movie or what have you if it is actually relevant to the situation. I don't understand those who think otherwise. And people in Real Life make cheesy and dumb quips all the time, so those are fine so long as you aren't overtly trying to shove jokes in.

Fallout was a tongue in cheek game from the beginning. Getting butthurt over FO2 is hilarious to me.
 

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I like it when the game reminds you that you're still playing a game. Indie devs are good at this while big devs hide this as easter eggs and go full retard with imersiveness.
 

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http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_2_cultural_references

There is thin line between not being knowledgeable about a subject and being dense and you, my friend seem closer to second one.

*skims through wiki entry*

It's missing quite a few things, like the Vice President being a spoof of Dan Quayle, the appearance of Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman, that the Enclave expedition to the Military Base was named Captain Pickhard and that Laddie the dog is Lassie, to name but a few. The only one I had not heard of before was the John Wayne reference in Earl Marion.

This list is better.
 

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http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_2_cultural_references

There is thin line between not being knowledgeable about a subject and being dense and you, my friend seem closer to second one.

*skims through wiki entry*

It's missing quite a few things, like the Vice President being a spoof of Dan Quayle, the appearance of Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman, that the Enclave expedition to the Military Base was named Captain Pickhard and that Laddie the dog is Lassie, to name but a few. The only one I had not heard of before was the John Wayne reference in Earl Marion.

This list is better.

I am impressed that the game writers had that much time to reference these shits.

I am especially impressed that fans seem to catch them all...

I am slightly impressed that I can get 10% of them. Mang, talk about obscure shits nerds speak to each other~
 

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