Achron, "the first 4-dimensional RTS"

[Korgan]

http://www.achrongame.com/site/gameplay.php
Holy crap. Looks like a total mindfuck.

Timeline and Timewaves
Like many other games, Achron allows the player to view an overhead map of the surrounding area. However, Achron also shows a map of the timeline. If the player is attacked at a certain point in time, the timeline will show the amount of damage received at that point by a large amount of red on that portion of the timeline. The timeline also shows information including damage dealt and chronoports. Being able to see the amount of available resources at any point in time helps the player figure out the best points in time to construct more units.

Information on the timeline can be lumped into three categories:

* A map of time - "Your opponent will attack you in 1 minute"
* Inform strategy - "You should have taken advantage of your resources and built a larger army 2 minutes ago, go change the past"
* Changes to the timeline - "Your opponent just undid an entire battle in the past"

http://www.achrongame.com/site/achron-a ... aradox.php
I CAN SEE FOREVER.

 

[Destroid]

It would be nice if they would make the graphics a little better than 'hideous'.

 

[DraQ]

It would be nice if they would make the graphics a little better than 'hideous'.

What are you talking about? I'd class GFX as decent.

As for the game, I'll try to look into it and post my thoughts.

 

[Malakal]

Puzzle-rts? Seems interesting if campaign is well done. Somehow I doubt that AI would be able to use all features in non scripted scenarios...

 

[Unkillable Cat]

I LOL'd at the first post and I CAN SEE FOREVER, followed by Destroid with a Cthulhu-esque avatar.

 

[Johannes]

Puzzle-rts? Seems interesting if campaign is well done. Somehow I doubt that AI would be able to use all features in non scripted scenarios...

No RTS ever had a passable AI though, so that's kinda moot point. Or maybe somebody made something decent for SCBW with the new api, but doesn't really matter.

 

[MetalCraze]

No RTS ever had a passable AI though

Joined: 20 Nov 2010

*sigh*
*goes back to the real time mode in MAX, gets raped in the ass by the quick and cunning AI, switches back to turn based*

 

[Johannes]

No RTS ever had a passable AI though

*sigh*
*goes back to the real time mode in MAX, gets raped in the ass by the quick and cunning AI, switches back to turn based*

Ahah, so you take example of a game that's TBS with tacked-on RT option? Still would surprise me if a good player wouldn't beat the shit out of the skirmish AI either mode. Im sceptical if beating you is any indicator of anything, have you ever played it online for any good period of time? Or any RTS game for that matter.

Joined: 20 Nov 2010

 

[MonkeyLancer]

*waah!?* At first I thought it was a 4d RTS of Archon!?!?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdfIfC9BHwQ

 

[Malakal]

BTW most RTS games are 4D since time is factored anyway in movement and building/gamebalance. This one is different since you can move back in time but moving forward in time (as in other RTS games) is also time travel. One way but still.

 

[Johannes]

BTW most RTS games are 4D since time is factored anyway in movement and building/gamebalance. This one is different since you can move back in time but moving forward in time (as in other RTS games) is also time travel. One way but still.

Most games do feature passing of time, RTS or not.

 

[poocolator]

Can you send a unit back through time to destroy itself?
That would have been a funnier explanatory video.

 

[Phelot]

This game makes my head explode

 

[Destroid]

Can you send a unit back through time to destroy itself?
That would have been a funnier explanatory video.

Should be possible due to the event propagation mechanic.

 

[astrosmurf]

Yeah, yeah, timetravel, grandfather paradox, yadayadayada. But the real innovation in this game is here:

Hierarchy

A hierarchy is created when the player directs units to report to another unit, turning that chosen unit into a commander. The player can then direct commanders to report to other units, creating a command hierarchy tree.

If they manage to implement that well, this might be the greatest RTS of all time.

 

[Johannes]

Yeah, yeah, timetravel, grandfather paradox, yadayadayada. But the real innovation in this game is here:

Hierarchy

A hierarchy is created when the player directs units to report to another unit, turning that chosen unit into a commander. The player can then direct commanders to report to other units, creating a command hierarchy tree.

If they manage to implement that well, this might be the greatest RTS of all time.

In another RTS I'd consider that a boring dumbed down system, but here it has some sense since you cannot micro in response to enemy timetravel so well.

 

[Malakal]

Yeah, yeah, timetravel, grandfather paradox, yadayadayada. But the real innovation in this game is here:

Hierarchy

A hierarchy is created when the player directs units to report to another unit, turning that chosen unit into a commander. The player can then direct commanders to report to other units, creating a command hierarchy tree.

If they manage to implement that well, this might be the greatest RTS of all time.

This looks amazing, chain of command in a rts game? Actually chain of command anywhere? Sweet.

 

[Orgasm]

Yeah, yeah, timetravel, grandfather paradox, yadayadayada. But the real innovation in this game is here:

Hierarchy

A hierarchy is created when the player directs units to report to another unit, turning that chosen unit into a commander. The player can then direct commanders to report to other units, creating a command hierarchy tree.

If they manage to implement that well, this might be the greatest RTS of all time.

In another RTS I'd consider that a boring dumbed down system.

Grow a brain before you post next time.
And I am not gonna give you clues why you are wrong. Thats not my style.
http://www.panthergames.com/Games/index.html

 

[poocolator]

Grow a brain before you post next time.

The anger... she burns.

 

[Johannes]

http://www.panthergames.com/Games/index.html

I hope you realise that that's not an RTS.

 

[Shuma]

http://www.panthergames.com/Games/index.html

I hope you realise that that's not an RTS.

Turns: Real-Time Pausable

what more do you want?

 

[Johannes]

No pausing for starters, and design the game around that concept? And I wouldn't call any game featuring strategy and continuous passing of time an RTS either, it's a more defined genre than that.

 

[Awor Szurkrarz]

It's on operational level, not strategic, so it's not a RTS. RTS games are basically strategic-level games in accelerated real time with graphics that look like graphics of a skirmish/tactical game.

Airborne Assault series are Real Time Simulations.

 

[Mangoose]

And I wouldn't call any game featuring strategy and continuous passing of time an RTS either, it's a more defined genre than that.

Ya theres no micro.

 

[Orgasm]

http://www.panthergames.com/Games/index.html

I hope you realise that that's not an RTS.

How unexpected. Attacking the example...
Why is not an rts? There is no pausing in multi and you can micro that shit too on high speed.

How about you strain you remaining braincells and try to come up with a working concept of a hierarchy in an rts instead of considering somehting boring and dumbed down?
Lets think about why hierarchy exists at all. I guess its because nobody can manage everything everywhere at the same time. So you make an rts where you cant do everything because of sensory overload but you can micro in one place, advancing that front while your opponent might or might not be doing the same in the same place or again, not (what a sentence). You give your commanders leadership stats and predefined behavior as for example fallback, defend, attack, assault, idontknow and he will do it for you. You can even add queued commands and plot a route so he could reinforce you from the other side when you micro win on your front. Why am I describing the exapmle Ah, yes. Its not an rts. Is Supreme Commander an rts?