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After playing a lot of JRPGs, most CRPGs became tedious

Discussion in 'jRPG Weeaboo Discussion' started by Sreggin Etah I, Jun 30, 2021.

  1. Falksi Arcane

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    The graphics are so lush and detailed, that they make you squint your eyes like a Jap to examine them further

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  2. Derringer Erudite

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    Nocturne is certainly a lot more bearable to play compared to most Persona games.
     
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  3. Jacob All Men Are King Kong Patron

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    Grab the Codex by the pussy
    I've never seen anyone actually making a serious comparison between Persona and Jojo, you probably got meme'd because they did have some superficial similarities.
     
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  4. Thac0 JRPG ambassador Patron

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    People overestimate how popular Jojo was regularily.
    It was only the newest anime where it really took off internationally, which then made it more popular in Japan in turn. The high meme value made it seem obitiquous with "IS THIS A JOJO REFERENCE" everywhere.
    7 years ago before the internet meme culture made zoomers boost Jojo through the heavens it was smaller than Yu Yu Hakusho even. A well known older manga series, but far from the cultural all star it is today.

    https://detail.chiebukuro.yahoo.co.jp/qa/question_detail/q12105828662


     
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  5. Nifft Batuff Liturgist

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    JRPG is when you add a story to a chess game.
     
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  6. Licorice Arcane Wumao

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    I wish lol.
     
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  7. Lucumo Literate

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    It's easy to separate the Persona games because the first one and the two second ones are on one side and everything from Persona 3 on, when they started targeting the 13-year-olds, stands on the other.

    Hah, funny that. I think I caught a bit of that Ametalk episode but didn't bother since I don't really care about JoJo (have seen the two older OVAs and they are ok'ish...and certainly look better than that modern crap). The "popular with women" part isn't suprising, considering the main crowd that watches Ametalk and the characters.
     
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  8. Hassar Learned

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    Maybe more like adding a story to Uno or Candyland, IDK.
     
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  9. Derringer Erudite

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    Most of that was just people from /a/ shitposting making fun of 'anime adaption fans' like they usually did, a lot of /a/ discussion veered into shitposting discord rooms filled with trannyfaggots.
     
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  10. lightbane Arcane

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    Fun fact: Chrono Cross was meant to be its own thing, but it was shoehorned into being a sequel of Chrono Trigger, by adding a few wall of texts spawned by characters of the first game who hang out there just to say that, as well as retconning things from Trigger.
    There was supposed to be a third game, Chrono Break, but it never happened, sadly.

    Radiant Historia is perhaps the closest thing we have.
     
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  11. aweigh Arcane

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    It's fairly obvious, tbh. Even back then.
     
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  12. Sreggin Etah I Savant

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    wasn't Chrono Cross a sequel to this:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_Dreamers

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  13. mogwaimon Erudite

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    I was always curious how Jojo suddenly blew up. I mean it was like Fist of the North Star or Berserk in that it was a pretty sweet 80s manga that people didn't bring up often enough and it even had that cool CPS3 fighting game that we even got here in the west that I'd wager was most people's introduction to the series here in America, but for it to blow up to the extent that it did in the late 2010s always baffled me. I'm hoping we get a good 'boom' for the other two manga I mentioned. Berserk at the very least so we can get a decent anime adaptation and...well, because Miura's gone I guess too :negative:
     
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  14. JDR13 Magister

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    Even more interesting is that Xenogears was originally going to be a sequel to Chrono Trigger.
     
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  15. Sreggin Etah I Savant

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    Nah bro, anime is decline, no anime can adapt the art of things like Beserk and Vagabond:

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    And on top of that, animes are censured and content are cut, so anime is nothing but decline. Only watch animes that are not adaptations from mangas, like Ergo Proxy.
     
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  16. Anonona Learned

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    Sometime ago, I may had agree with this. But now I'm not sure. If something gets big enough, greedy executives would want a piece of the pie. And I'm sure that they won't hesitate to shit all over Miura's work if they think they can make some cash. Last thing I would want is for Berserk to be transformed into a franchise as so many things nowadays...
     
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  17. Sreggin Etah I Savant

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    Even something like One Piece, the anime looks absolutely dogshit compared to the manga:

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  18. mogwaimon Erudite

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    I 100% agree on the later anime, like...starting at the CP9 arc and even more notable later on they got this new studio working on the animation and you ended up with massive necks on people who shouldn't have them like Sanji and weird looking noses and all that shit. The early anime before Water 7 (including the Little Garden arc) looked a lot more faithful to the original art in the manga as a whole.

    I mean, you're right and all. I prefer to read manga over watch anime because of that especially because anime almost never finishes the storylines from the manga. But here's the thing, normies don't read anymore so these series don't blow up unless there's an anime about them now which means we get less chances to have incline side stuff like games and what have you than usual. There's exceptions to the rule like FotNS had Lost Paradise a couple years back but when was the last good Berserk game (that wasn't a musou game)? because don't get me wrong I love musou games but I know they're not exactly 'great' and maybe getting some sort of Berserk ARPG ripping off Dark Souls would be pretty sweet, I dunno.
     
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  19. TheSoul Educated

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    After playing a shitton of jrpgs in high school, I feel the opposite now with modern jrpgs. Devs keep making the characters look and act 15. I fucking hate the weeb romances with main characters they keep including. It's an awful mix of naruto and love hina dialogue.

    CRPGs are rough around the edges, but the good ones make you overlook them as long as you stay away from the shitty openworld sandbox games.
     
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  20. lightbane Arcane

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    Sorta. It was meant to be one, but then someone had the idea to cram the plot of Trigger to it.

    That one is new, and I don't know how it would even work. I remember Xenogears was meant to be one game of a long series, but it's even more different tone-wise than Trigger. It also has tons of Evangelion-esque references that don't make sense at all with the other game.
     
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  21. Lucumo Literate

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    Nah, they can basically only produce crap now because a.) low budget and b.) CGI. The best you are gonna get is the 1997 adaptation.
     
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  22. lightbane Arcane

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    Also, outsourcing to China, don't forget that.
     
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  23. Lucumo Literate

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    It's a direct consequence of low budget but yeah, outsourcing to China, The Philippines etc is a surefire way to get low quality results. The sad part is that when Japan had money (during the bubble economy) they spent it on OVAs advertising some manga, game or whatever and/or hired staff that had no idea how a good and coherent story should look like. Due to that, there are surprisingly few anime that offer the whole package.
     
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  24. JDR13 Magister

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    You're probably thinking of Xenosaga. That was supposed to be a long series. It was originally planned to be six games but was changed to three after the first game was released.
     
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  25. mogwaimon Erudite

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    it's the same thing, Xenosaga was supposed to be either the far future or the far past of the Xenogears universe 'sort of' and Xenogears was sort of like Star Wars in which Xenogears was supposed to be like episode 6 of a series or something. Developer/publisher woes changed all that which is why Xenogears became Xenosaga sort of and, while I haven't played Xenoblade yet I'm pretty sure Monolithsoft is the same company that did Xenosaga so Xenoblade series may even be tangentially related to the whole saga.

    It's been many years since I played Xenogears and had an interest in learning more about it, but if I recall there was some sort of Xenogears Perfect Works or Ultimaniax book released in Japan that detailed a lot of what lightbane was talking about with Xenogears being one part of a story that was supposed to be told over numerous sequels and Xenosaga might have something similar or some old developer interviews to explain the connection more.
     
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