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Age of Empires III: Definitive Edition

Discussion in 'Strategy and Simulation' started by Morgoth, Jan 24, 2020.

  1. fantadomat Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck Edgy

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    Ahhh aoe2de had some sjw shit in it for sure.
     
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  2. thesheeep Arcane Patron

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    That "colonial" nonsense is certainly cringeworthy, but I wouldn't really care what text is on a button if they got the rest of the DE right.
    Well... give it a few more months, I guess.
     
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  3. Delterius Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Opinion read and discarded lmfao.

    Whitewashing is bad ngl but the optimization issues that every DE releases with are A WAY BIGGER ISSUE than 'i don't have to unlock my civ's basic shit' and 'my ui now lets me see more things'.
     
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  4. Tigranes Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    roflmao, I knew some people would have liked home cities because it gives them a Progress Quest, but jesus christ
     
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  5. cvv Arcane Patron

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    Just like with the OG Command&Conquer then - fuck dusting off those ancient games. Is anyone seriously asking for this? Make a brand new CC or a brand new AoE.

    Or better yet, seeing as we live in the modern age, don't do anything. It'd be for the best.
     
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  6. Delterius Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Actually yes. AoE2 DE was a massive success: critically, commercially and for the game's community in general.

    AoE3 hasn't gotten the same level of treatment, but it advanced nonetheless.
     
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  7. BING XI LAO Age of Wonders fanboy Patron

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    Glad this SJW trash is getting review-bombed, even if it is courtesy of 'muh progreshun' brainlets.
     
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  8. Morgoth Arcane Patron

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    Make an entirely new C&C game that will be a guaranteed shit RTS and anger the veterans? Good way to hemorrhage money. Much easier to go with a minimalist remaster approach and sell a million copies over nostalgia.

    Pretty ballsy from Microsoft though to fund Age 4.
     
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  9. cvv Arcane Patron

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    On second thought this is actually correct.
     
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  10. Narax Literate

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    And now they’ll blame the fanbase for being racist.
    :hmmm:
     
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  11. thesheeep Arcane Patron

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    Don't know about that...
    The optimization is bad (especially for what you see on the screen), but the civ progression was, for me, the primary reason I liked this game so much.
    It gives you a goal beyond "win this match", an agenda to follow, a way to make your nation slowly stronger and see the progress along the way, a sense of discovery with new abilities - adds quite a bit of RPG to the mix, if you like. It's what kept me hooked.
    What you have now is the equivalent of playing an RPG and everyone starts at max level - boring, will make me lose interest very quickly.
    It also makes homecity-building a lot harder, as you are given a million options all at once - it's overwhelming for everyone except experts. Like making a lvl20 DnD character from scratch.

    I get why some MP people would want everything unlocked from the get-go (and for competitive matchmaking, that even makes sense), but then why not make that an option and allow matchmaking to specify a range of city levels? It seems like a no-brainer, but the devs decided to not even give an option here :/
    However, I thought I was in a tiny minority with that view - well, apparently I wasn't, given that this is the second most mentioned neglect in the reviews (even the positive ones).

    In the end, this just proves what I always say - the SP and casual MP crowd for RTS games is way larger than the competitive MP crowd, even though the latter is admittedly who kept the games alive.
     
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  12. Tacgnol Shitlord Patron

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    Anyone else catch the Irenaeus cameo in the comments?
     
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  13. JarlFrank I like Thief THIS much Patron

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    I don't get why anyone would like the grind. It was the worst part of original AoE3 and this is a great reason to buy the DE. No more shitty grind before you can play out the real strategies.
     
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    You're talking about one of the minor points of the review...
     
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    Not sure what's so hard to understand about that.

    As I said, I do understand why someone would like to have all cards unlocked from the get-go, if their primary focus is competitive play.
    But why make that the only possibility and not allow for both ways? Afaik, the original game allowed both. It seems like the removal of an option without any real reason.
     
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  16. JarlFrank I like Thief THIS much Patron

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    It's not even just about the competitive play, I just don't like repetitive lengthy grinding in order to unlock the good stuff.
    Also, I remember the original game requiring you to play many matches to unlock all the stuff, there was no insta-unlock option. And you had to do it for each nation individually!
     
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  17. Multidirectional Arcane

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    Nope, if you reached level 20 with one nation then the rest of them got level 20 as well, if you started them fresh. Same for level 40, 60, etc. You did need to repeat same process for expansion nations, one of each again.
     
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  18. Delterius Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    TBH as a single player dumbo I consider that the AoE3DE AI not being as godly as the AoE2DE the greatest impediment to my shut-in no humans allowed play.
     
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  19. Delterius Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    I bit the bullet and bought the game.

    I played the first historical battle, a Spanish siege of Algiers which served to showcase the two features that, by themselves, kickstart my appreciation for the Definitive Edition: the Revolutions flavor additions and the Historical Battles. European countries now have more options for Revolutions, each country is given a great deal more flavor and the option itself was made more viable economically. Case in point, you play as an Ottoman Revolutionary - Barbary Corsairs against the spaniards. These come with unique infantry and cavalry options and the ability to train Mamelukes and Barbary Corsairs directly from military buildings. I didn't play Algiers at the hardest difficulty yet but it sort of reminded me of the second Salahadin map from AoE2, except the AI does hit and run tactics. Overall, a fun map with objectives to fulfill. If the other Battles are as fun as this one, they'll shape up to be the semi-historical fun campaign I didn't get 15 years ago when a bunch of nerds at Ensemble decided to do their dumb ass Illuminati plot. I'm looking forward to playing as the Portuguese in Ethiopia tomorrow.

    On the other hand, I was forced to disable shadows to get a smooth FPS so this game needs a lot of optimization. To say nothing of the bugs people are showing on Reddit et al. In the 2 games I played I couldn't get my settlers to harvest animals.
     
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  20. FEDSMOKER hellbound and dumb as fuck Patron

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    one of my foremost concerns about AoE III: DE is that the unit combat and movement felt.. very weird and unnatural in the original version of the game. is it the same here?
     
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  21. Delterius Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Having played Skirmish against the AI before and after the first patch I'm actually impressed. Their behavior is completely different. They counter your army compositions, know when to retreat and even do hit and run with ranged cavalry. Looking forward to the future.
     
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  22. deama Liturgist

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    So the game any good? How's the campaign? I'm only going to play this single-player, so I don't really care about balance all too much.
     
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  23. Delterius Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    There's no new campaign, only a series of 6 historical battles with cool objectives and voice acting.

    Who knows, they might make more of them.
     
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  24. Delterius Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Revolutions are cool now.
     
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    Pretty much. They've not really changed any animations, units still fight in a very robotic/unnatural manner.
     
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