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Review Alpha Protocol is better than Mass Effect 2

Discussion in 'News & Content Feedback' started by Jason, Jun 2, 2010.

  1. Jason chasing a bee

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    <p>Tom Chick can think of at least <a href="http://fidgit.com/archives/2010/06/11_ways_alpha_protocol_is_bett.php" target="_blank">11 reasons</a> why Alpha Protocol is a better game than Mass Effect 2.</p>
    <blockquote>4) Conversations<br />Your choice of things to say in Alpha Protocol is almost always clear. It's a simple abstract system. You choose among suave, aggressive, and professional comments (the developers break it down as Bond, Bauer, or Borne). Sometimes you get a bonus choice if you've met certain prerequisites. You could almost say it's like a game! But you never feel like you're guessing, which is often the case in Mass Effect 2 where every reply has two layers: what's written and what you actually say. Conversations in Alpha Protocol are clearly intended to be part of the gameplay instead of cat-and-mouse with the writers.</blockquote>
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    <p>Spotted at: <a href="http://fidgit.com/">Fidgit</a></p>
     
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  2. Jaedar Arcane Patron

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    Pretty good list tbh, although the thing you quoted was pretty lulzy.
     
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  3. Melcar Arcane

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    It's on!
     
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  4. godsend1989 Scholar

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    Divinity: Original Sin
     
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  5. Felix Arcane

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    He's right.

    Damn right.
     
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  6. KalosKagathos Prestigious Gentleman Learned

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    Fixed.
     
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  7. Felix Arcane

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    He forgot to mention the e-mails. I loled when I saw Heck's walloftext :lol:
     
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  8. KalosKagathos Prestigious Gentleman Learned

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    Could it be a subtle reference to /gd/? :lol:
     
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  9. racofer Thread Incliner

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    DEEEEERRRRRPPPP I CAN HID IN TEH OPENZ CUZ DIZ AN ARR PEE GEE BUT ME2 WITH ITS CLOAKIN DEVICE FAILZ CUZ ITS LINEAR CORRIDER SHOOTER HHHHHUUURRRRPPP!!! WAIT WAH??!

    Switching guns to deal with different situations is dumbing down. See that guy 2 km away? I will snipe him with my pistol because I have pistol skills level 20. In dumbed down consoletard games like ME2 you have to minigame the gun selection system and pick the sniper rifle.

    The number 2 sort of implies continuity, something Obsishit knows nothing about given their past releases of Bioware sequels. But hey Obsturd fanboys will surely ignore this if AP2 ever comes out.

    Only it is not. In ME2 you assemble a new team with only two recruitable characters from the first game.

    And regarding the "I haz control on teh gaem" for AP, I bet that is true given you can't even know the outcome of your answers in the dialog minigame.

    The Illusive Man's intentions are as clear as clean water: Humanity comes first no matter what, and the ends always justify the means. At least he is an original character and doesn't look like a flat out copy of Eli Vance.

    So the Codex agrees that having everything shown to the player, Oblivion-style makes it a better game than not having every piece of storyline immediately revealed? HAHAHA!

    Not that I'm saying ME2 is different on this regard, it's as straightforward as it can be but this just goes along proving what a retarded comparison that guy makes, almost skyway style.

    AP is open world now and allows free exploration, unlike the linear corridor shooter ME2. And if AP knew its limitations it would not have shipped on its current despicable state.

    :epic:

    The dialog system is a fucking minigame. I would like to see a grenade that allows me to go around that.

    Try beating ME2 on insanity without acquiring upgrades and see how far you can go. And not knowing what was being bought? Seriously? It seems reading purchase descriptions is too difficult for the average gamer these days.

    Nope, it doesn't. It has however about a dozen better characters with better dialog lines and convincing roles than a "done 1200 times before in every movie" elusive kind of guy that happens to know everything the is to know about Taipei with contacts throughout the whole fucking place yet needs your help to get the job done for some reason.
     
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  10. Clockwork Knight Arcane

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    BRO HES RETARTED BUT HE HAS AN EASYER TIME UNDERTSANDING THE DIALOGUE THAN YOU, I DON UNDERSTAND!!?!!?1/1/!
     
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  11. Jaesun Fabulous Moderator

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    It does seem like someone at Obsidian does indeed read GD.
     
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  12. Darth Roxor Prestigious Gentleman Wielder of the Huegpenis

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  13. yaster Liturgist

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    Yeah! Exactly.
     
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  14. Dny Educated

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    You fight the good fight bro' but I doubt it was worth the effort. As seen by this "11 reasons why I don't have a life and want to have sex with Christ Avellone" Bobsidian fanboys are of the most utterly retarded monomaniacs kind.

    "Bioware is teh evil and Obsidian is teh best evar!!!11!!one!one!"

    Fuck even Bobsidian fanboys feel compelled to compare AP to ME even though they always denied the influence. So far Bobsidian's never been able to get an original idea of their own. They started by making two sequels to two Bioware games, expansions and now they "created" AP, which may be based on an original setting but made so many choices that are close to ME's direction you'd have to ask whether AP would have existed if Bioware didn't make ME. From the unreal engine based third person shooting down to the dialog wheel with a very small change to make it look like they're not 1:1 copy of Bioware, it's pathetic. It's not like there are a LOT of "third person cover-based shooter + RPG elements with dialog wheel" on the market, previous attempts at action-RPG shooting (deus ex, bloodlines) had nothing to do with that generation and were FPSes. Bio creates a formula, Obsidian copies it, make small changes and call it their own.

    Face it, whether you like ME or not, if Bioware didn't create Mass Effect, Ass Brotocol wouldn't even have been a brainfart in Bobsidian developers mind. AP only exists because ME1 was a success and they had to create their own TPS pseudo-RPG.

    Bioware sets the trends that Obsidian follows.
     
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  15. racofer Thread Incliner

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    @ Dny:

    "You fight the good fight bro' but I doubt it was worth the effort."

    I know what you mean bro, but one can never rest easy knowing he could've spoken out about this nonsense when the time was right, instead of remaining silent knowing nobody would hear anyway.
     
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  16. GarfunkeL Racism Expert

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    Except you might not have sniper rifle at all, depending on your class, there are no enemies 2 km away, even the cinematics have snipers shooting from barely twenty-thirty meters and the difference between the guns in ME2 is how often you need to reload and superficial difference in damage-per-bullet.
     
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  17. Vaarna_Aarne Notorious Internet Vandal Patron

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    He and Brayko reminded me of /gd/ a lot.
     
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  18. Shannow Waster of Time

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    Actually I played through MEh with pistols maxed and regretted putting any points in sniper rifles... Dunno about MEh2 though. But then, AP was probably mainly influenced by MEh and not by MEh2.
    And to evade the "lol AP is not a sequel"-argument the moron could simply have compared AP to MEh. Otherwise we can compare AP2 to MEh in the future and that would mean that the terrorists Bioware wins :shock:
     
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  19. racofer Thread Incliner

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    @ GarfunkeL:

    "the difference between the guns in ME2 is how often you need to reload and superficial difference in damage-per-bullet."

    That's incorrect, stop the lies. Every weapon deals different amounts of damage depending on what they're hitting. Some deal more damage to shields (like the Geth Assault Rifle, only available on higher difficult settings by the way) while others deal more damage to armor/barriers/health. Every weapon is different on these aspects and if say, you're playing a soldier in ME2 whom has no access to biotics or techs (unless you specialize in only one of those abilities) then careful weapon selection is required to be effective, and swapping guns is the only way not to get obliterated in higher difficulties.

    Not to mention that in ME2 you need to coordinate your teammates. It's not as easy was people make it seem to be unless you're playing on normal or below.
     
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  20. made Arcane

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    I haven't played AP and doubt I ever will, but

    Does AP have you circle your mouse cursor across planets for hours on end as a core gameplay mechanic?
    Does AP make you drive around in a vehicle with physics straight outta BigRigs?

    If the answer to the above is HELL NO! then AP is better than ME.
     
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  21. Whisperer Novice

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    seriously, there were so many genuinely funny moments in Alpha Protocol that it reminded my that I was playing a game that had real writers on board, damn it! These I can list off the top of my head :

    -Your possible response to Steven's wall of text ("Holy crap Steven, we're THROUGH THE ROOF!") and his subsequent message about strawberry prices or smth + Steven "assisting" you with the mounted gatling gun in the Taiwan subway station = WIN.
    - The intercepted Halbech, CIA and NSA e-mails.
    - The "battle" with Championchik (he brought his fists to a firefight LOL.)
    - the three Triad defectors' descriptions.
    - Brayko.
    - Darcy's "Big gun for Mikey".

    This and the fact that it at least has soul, likeable characters (not even the female reporter is annoying at all) and that you can actually screw up your character build like in the old days makes this superior to ME2 in every way, including the AI - dumb but very aggresive in some cases (in AP different minions have different behavior, like VCI rushing you or G22 forcing you out of cover - or everyone using the overpowered grenades, whereas in ME2 cover is God.)

    PS : Racofer, godsend1989 seriously wants to outtroll you.
     
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  22. Volourn Pretty Princess Pretty Princess

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    FFS

    I dunno if AP if better than ME2 or not; but either way, those who like AP should be ashamed of this punk defending it because he comes acfross as a fuckin' moronic loon and tries depsertely to bring AP down with him.

    Over half of his reasons are either full bullshit, illogical, retarted, or just minor difference in opinion.

    FFS
     
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  23. Tycn Savant

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    ZIONIST AGENTS IN MY BROTOCOLS
     
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  24. visions Arcane

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    This raised my interest level for trying out Alpha Protocol from 0/10 to 4/10.
     
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  25. Felix Arcane

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    HELL NO!AP also doesn't have blue boxes poping up everywhere.

    I uninstalled ME in disgust after a few hours. Some people said ME2 is better, tried it out: "going around to popeamole to recruit companions I don't give a fuck about, still fucking blue boxes everywhere WTF I don't even", ppl said it's a good or entertaining shooter obviously never play good shooters in their entire life, uninstalled in disgust again. The first time a game made me feel disgusting more than Gears of War.
     
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