Eternity Avowed Pre-Release Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Baron Tahn]

I think Outer Worlds soured this a bit for me. I dont hate how it looks as much as others but seeing what happened with OW Im just....blergh.

If it turns out to have cool dungeons and reminds me of Arx Fatalis or Ultima Underworld or something then Id be keen for it...I just dont have any faith in the devs or optimism for much here. Im hoping this will surprise me though you never know.

 

[damager]

Make a nice world to explore, some dungeon, solid action combat, make the stealth archer build good. Give it a handful spells. Give it some run of the mill story and some whatever quests. And very simplistic RPG systems. It doesn't have to be great art. Skyrim fans have no high standards. They want a polished and simple product.

You only need to produce total mediocrity and they would eat it out the the palm of your hand. Especially when you market it as "the maker of Fallout:NV make a spritual successor to Skyrim". Easy money. Obsidian is really retarded nowadays.

 

[Baron Tahn]

Yeah they made NV didnt they. Its 8nsane how much better F:NV was to say, Outer Worlds. What happened there?

 

[damager]

They threw out MCA and made the tattowed hipster with autism lead designer

 

[MjKorz]

They threw out MCA

They guy who wrote Grieving Mother aka verbal diarrhea dispenser? Good fucking riddance.

 

[Gargaune]

They guy who wrote Grieving Mother aka verbal diarrhea dispenser? Good fucking riddance.

Also the guy who wrote Durance, genuinely the only memorable character in PoE. So no, not such good riddance.

 

[luj1]

They threw out MCA and made the tattowed hipster with autism lead designer

 

[Infinitron]

Josh Sawyer had no direct involvement with The Outer Worlds and has no direct involvement with Avowed. He was the game director of Fallout: New Vegas.

Chris Avellone was not that involved with the base game of Fallout: New Vegas, although he was the director of three of its DLCs.

 

[damager]

Sawyer couldn't attend Avellones wedding because he had to go to the tattoo appointment of his boyfriend at that day

 

[motherfucker]

Infinitron Somehow, I think the meme meant Pillars not FNV

 

[MjKorz]

Durance

One of the most physically revolting characters I've ever had the displeasure of encountering in RPGs. Again: good fucking riddance. Avellone hasn't written anything good since he finished his work on New Vegas.

 

[Old Hans]

They guy who wrote Grieving Mother aka verbal diarrhea dispenser? Good fucking riddance.

Also the guy who wrote Durance, genuinely the only memorable character in PoE. So no, not such good riddance.

and grieving mother! I liked her, she was straight out of planescape torment

 

[Roguey]

Yeah they made NV didnt they. Its 8nsane how much better F:NV was to say, Outer Worlds. What happened there?

One was a game made with another company's engine and tools directed by Josh Sawyer and written by Gen Xers circa 2010, the other was a game made with Unreal, most assets from scratch, directed by Tim Cain and Leonard Boyarsky and written by Millennials circa 2019.

They threw out MCA

Avellone refused to direct or be a lead and quit the company on his own because he was tired of Feargus and Parker.

 

[Gargaune]

and grieving mother! I liked her, she was straight out of planescape torment

Yeah, I heard she was well-liked but can't speak to that from experience, I somehow managed to miss her when I went through PoE and I'm not feeling particularly motivated to replay it.

 

[Baron Tahn]

Yeah they made NV didnt they. Its 8nsane how much better F:NV was to say, Outer Worlds. What happened there?

One was a game made with another company's engine and tools directed by Josh Sawyer and written by Gen Xers circa 2010, the other was a game made with Unreal, most assets from scratch, directed by Tim Cain and Leonard Boyarsky and written by Millennials circa 2019.

Damn. Thats a long way to fall in only 10 years. Guess I feel the same way about most entertainment industry.

 

[Aarwolf]

Durance

One of the most physically revolting characters I've ever had the displeasure of encountering in RPGs. Again: good fucking riddance. Avellone hasn't written anything good since he finished his work on New Vegas.

And that's the point! You're meant to hate him, he's repulsive on so many levels. Yet, in a world filled with likeable friendly and easy to please companions he was like a breath of fresh air.

 

[Fedora Master]

Durance

One of the most physically revolting characters I've ever had the displeasure of encountering in RPGs. Again: good fucking riddance. Avellone hasn't written anything good since he finished his work on New Vegas.

And that's the point! You're meant to hate him, he's repulsive on so many levels. Yet, in a world filled with likeable friendly and easy to please companions he was like a breath of fresh air.

I've never managed to slog through the game, what's so bad about him? He's a weird old Rasputin looking guy, what else?

 

[Aarwolf]

Durance

One of the most physically revolting characters I've ever had the displeasure of encountering in RPGs. Again: good fucking riddance. Avellone hasn't written anything good since he finished his work on New Vegas.

And that's the point! You're meant to hate him, he's repulsive on so many levels. Yet, in a world filled with likeable friendly and easy to please companions he was like a breath of fresh air.

I've never managed to slog through the game, what's so bad about him? He's a weird old Rasputin looking guy, what else?

He's everything thak modern woketards despise - he's cruel, he's angry (very angry), he constantly challenges the player and, worst of sins, can make a player look like hipocritic moron. Oh, and he's abusive and he's the one who made Grieving Mother what she is today, breaking her physically and most important - mentally. He hates women too and even calls his own goddes (he's a priest) a bitch.

Bonus points for that he decides when you can speak with him and he decides when the talk is over. And he never pats the player on the head.

 

[Fedora Master]

Durance

One of the most physically revolting characters I've ever had the displeasure of encountering in RPGs. Again: good fucking riddance. Avellone hasn't written anything good since he finished his work on New Vegas.

And that's the point! You're meant to hate him, he's repulsive on so many levels. Yet, in a world filled with likeable friendly and easy to please companions he was like a breath of fresh air.

I've never managed to slog through the game, what's so bad about him? He's a weird old Rasputin looking guy, what else?

He's everything thak modern woketards despise - he's cruel, he's angry (very angry), he constantly challenges the player and, worst of sins, can make a player look like hipocritic moron. Oh, and he's abusive and he's the one who made Grieving Mother what she is today, breaking her physically and most important - mentally. He hates women too and even calls his own goddes (he's a priest) a bitch.

Bonus points for that he decides when you can speak with him and he decides when the talk is over. And he never pats the player on the head.

Sounds based, what's the problem?

 

[Aarwolf]

Durance

One of the most physically revolting characters I've ever had the displeasure of encountering in RPGs. Again: good fucking riddance. Avellone hasn't written anything good since he finished his work on New Vegas.

And that's the point! You're meant to hate him, he's repulsive on so many levels. Yet, in a world filled with likeable friendly and easy to please companions he was like a breath of fresh air.

I've never managed to slog through the game, what's so bad about him? He's a weird old Rasputin looking guy, what else?

He's everything thak modern woketards despise - he's cruel, he's angry (very angry), he constantly challenges the player and, worst of sins, can make a player look like hipocritic moron. Oh, and he's abusive and he's the one who made Grieving Mother what she is today, breaking her physically and most important - mentally. He hates women too and even calls his own goddes (he's a priest) a bitch.

Bonus points for that he decides when you can speak with him and he decides when the talk is over. And he never pats the player on the head.

Sounds based, what's the problem?

Dunno, I appreciate the guy. I don't have to like somebody to know that he's written in a very competent and engaging way. Apart from two Avellone's NPCs every other NPC ingame was yawn inducing.

 

[RunningWolf]

Sounds based, what's the problem?

The guy likes Pillars but dislikes Durance. Its like he enjoys eating a turd and then was disgusted when Avellone gave him a little bit of food for a change. Average Obsidian fan.

 

[Tyranicon]

-looks up Durance-

It's what's beneath the skin and the letters I care about, what burns within. It's more important to me you're a Watcher than whatever culture or accent decorates your letters like awkward crowns.

Take pride in your actions, not where you hail from... Or how your name rolls off whatever liar's tongue coats it now.

Someone who's experienced can detect good writing within 50 words.

 

[Nas92]

They threw out MCA

They guy who wrote Grieving Mother aka verbal diarrhea dispenser? Good fucking riddance.

Grieving Mother was an interesting character, but yeah, she could get a bit annoying. I wish the whole Durance - Grieving Mother thing hadn't been cut, I think cutting that probably took a lot out of her character.
Also I wish Durance had been in Deadfire, he's perfect for that story.

 

[Infinitron]

Durance and especially Grieving Mother are poorly executed characters that were created by stitching together walls of text written by Chris Avellone after he overscoped their companion quests. Avellone himself basically disavowed their state in the final game.

Some of those walls of text were cool, though.

 

[Strange Fellow]

"Fantasy RPGS are more popular than sci-fi" was true decades ago, and it still appears to be true.

Sad but accurate, in my impression. Even here on the Codex, the moment any game strays from the same old Forgotten Realms shit there are posts by people saying they're not interested. It's a depressing state of affairs.