Baldur's Gate #BaldurGate: Siege of Dragonspear

[Prime Junta]

Actually, globalist corporations are winning, SJWs are just this era's version of useful idiots and established regime bootlickers, nothing more.

Nah. Justice is justice, and it has to start somewhere. Once the principle of fairness is established and has taken root, it will be extended everywhere. Capitalism, being intrinsically unjust, cannot survive that.

In the meantime, SJW's are fellow travellers.

 

[Llama-Yak Hybrid]

Like for example you have Gypsies saying they are so cool and they won't rob you(you're THE Avatar after all) but then you see that they are also the only ones in the game that have actual prostitutes(one male one female if I remember correctly) which hints that they are kind of shady guys.

You're thinking of the gypsies in Ultima VI, where there two groups of them, the "good" gypsies and the "shady" ones who had hookers. U7 didn't have gypsy prostitutes.

Okay I've messed them up, but the point mostly stands.

 

[SionIV]

Like for example you have Gypsies saying they are so cool and they won't rob you(you're THE Avatar after all) but then you see that they are also the only ones in the game that have actual prostitutes(one male one female if I remember correctly) which hints that they are kind of shady guys.

You're thinking of the gypsies in Ultima VI, where there two groups of them, the "good" gypsies and the "shady" ones who had hookers. U7 didn't have gypsy prostitutes.

There is a game with gypsy prostitutes? This is like the sheep in Arcanum all over again. I feel very strongly that I have to review such a situation, for academical purpose, obviously.

 

[muds_animal_friend]

Other than, SJW'S are strongly anti-racist?

No. They're just racist.

 

[Infinitron]

Like for example you have Gypsies saying they are so cool and they won't rob you(you're THE Avatar after all) but then you see that they are also the only ones in the game that have actual prostitutes(one male one female if I remember correctly) which hints that they are kind of shady guys.

You're thinking of the gypsies in Ultima VI, where there two groups of them, the "good" gypsies and the "shady" ones who had hookers. U7 didn't have gypsy prostitutes.

There is a game with gypsy prostitutes? This is like the sheep in Arcanum all over again. I feel very strongly that I have to review such a situation, for academical research obviously.

Ask about it here: http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/the-ultima-series-discussion-thread.103690/

 

[Volrath]

Prime Cunta missing the point as always.

 

[Delterius]

Arcanum was actually about german anti-semitism.

 

[SionIV]

Imagine how the gnome quest chain in Arcanum would have gone over with today's audience.

 

[Trashos]

Actually, globalist corporations are winning, SJWs are just this era's version of useful idiots and established regime bootlickers, nothing more.

Nah. Justice is justice, and it has to start somewhere. Once the principle of fairness is established and has taken root, it will be extended everywhere. Capitalism, being intrinsically unjust, cannot survive that.

In the meantime, SJW's are fellow travellers.

Uhm, what is Justice then? Is equality Just?

 

[AwesomeButton]

Actually, globalist corporations are winning, SJWs are just this era's version of useful idiots and established regime bootlickers, nothing more.

I think 10 years from now the generational shift among young educated consumers will have happened again and SJWs will no longer be trendy. And 20 years from now today's SJWs will look to young people the same way as hippies from the 70s look to us today - dated, out of touch, old and ugly. Those of them who haven't yet died from obesity-caused CVDs.

No idea what the fashionable hype will be then, probably something even worse...

 

[Reinhardt]

Other than, SJW'S are strongly anti-racist?

Being anti-white it's not being anti-racist.

 

[FeelTheRads]

Forced equality. Best justice. Dumfuck SJWs actually think such a thing is possible.

Prime Cunta missing the point as always.

No, he seems to get it, only twists it so it looks good from where he's at...

 

[Reinhardt]

dated, out of touch, old and ugly.

So, basically, just as they are today?

 

[ZagorTeNej]

Nah. Justice is justice, and it has to start somewhere. Once the principle of fairness is established and has taken root, it will be extended everywhere. Capitalism, being intrinsically unjust, cannot survive that.

A road to hell is paved with good intentions. No matter how you masquerade it as, authoritarian assholery is still authoritarian assholery.

The only political activists I've ever respected (regardless of where they fall in) are the rarest form they come in, those that live up to their own ideals instead of forcing others to do so.

In the meantime, SJW's are fellow travellers.

They're bunch of overprivileged narcissists that live a very sheltered life and poster childs for benevolent racism and sexism. They're entirely ignorant of the world that exists outside their little cubicle.

 

[DeepOcean]

Actually, globalist corporations are winning, SJWs are just this era's version of useful idiots and established regime bootlickers, nothing more.

Nah. Justice is justice, and it has to start somewhere. Once the principle of fairness is established and has taken root, it will be extended everywhere. Capitalism, being intrinsically unjust, cannot survive that.

In the meantime, SJW's are fellow travellers.

Prima Junta, if you are trolling, congratulations, if you really think this, go make an IQ test urgently.

 

[FeelTheRads]

Oh he'll get plenty of tests once that thought-police he and his SJW fellows desire so much is instated.

 

[Kem0sabe]

SJW radicals, which are the ones that are present at Beamdog and many other developers, do not represent a political or social movement, they are a fanatical sect, they are anti white, anti men, anti equality, and are a danger to free thought and a free society.

To compare the message of these degenerates to other political messages present in games is disingenuous.

 

[PhantasmaNL]

Agreed with posters above, if Beamdog made their own little SJW influenced game, there would be no shit storm and they actually might have had better sales figures while keeping the BG legacy untainted and the fanbase intact. Instead they decided to throw that all away.

 

[DeepOcean]

Dear lord, the writing on this game sucks, it comes from boring to awful then go back to boring. I mean, I don't think David Gayder is a good writer but whoever was responsible for the writing on this game is worse than him. "Worse than fucking David Gayder", that is a good name for a Steam achievement.

 

[Lilura]

better sales figures

Do we know what their sales have been like? (srs q)

 

[SionIV]

The drama is real on the Beamdog forums. https://forums.beamdog.com/discussi...sitant-towards-buying-siege-of-dragonspear/p8

I wrote the following.

I'm not going to keep running in circles about this.

"I’m happy to be an SJW and I hope to write many Social Justice Games in the future" - Amber Scott.

Siege of Dragonspear: the Social Justice Game!

The answer I got from an old member.

And this, right here? Is exactly where the old "I'm not homophobic/transphobic/misogynistic BUT" fallacy comes apart.

Because in the context of that discussion you're so fond of quoting, Amber is answering someone who defines SJW as "is okay with LGBT people and/or women" (because, lest we forget, she said this in response to someone who wanted Hexxat removed from the game because she's a lesbian). If that's what "Social Justice" actually means, and that's what you're protesting? Congratulations, youare a homophobe/transphobe/misogynist (pick whichever applies based on whichever character you're complaining about).

There is literally no other definition for "SJW" being offered, and no other context in which an "agenda" is being forced down your throat.

You're complaining about LGBT and pro-women content in a video game. Sit down, shut up, and stop lying.

If we go and look at his profile, he has a warning from earlier this month.

This warning is to remind you to be respectful of the other members of the community, even if you disagree with them. I know you know the site rules, so just be more vigilant in your posting. - April 3.

And last year the following as well.

The site rules are pretty clear about being respectful of other people. Your continued use of animated images to make jabs at people violates that rule. You have a lot of positive things to contribute to this site; your rudeness is not one of them.

I don't have any popcorn at home, I might have to go get some...

 

[imweasel]

Dem comments on youtube.



"LOL Leave it to SJWs to ruin a classic pushing their agenda, nice job idiots."
"I just came here to say FUCK YOU BEAMDOG"
"you can change your gender with magic in this world... why tf would there be a trans person..."
"Maybe you guys should make your own game, instead of screwing up classics."
"for anyone wanting to buy this, i'll save you the trouble: this is Tumblr SJW: the Game"
"Screw you guys not wasting my money on this game. Screw SJW's."
"Well, here's a game I won't play. Fuck you, sjw motherfuckers."
"Game is a bug-filled piece of trash. Money not well spent but I was a Baldur's Gate fanboi so I got suckered into buying this crap.
The preachy, feminist, SJW dialogue makes it almost unplayable, then you get the bugs and it is an unplayable piece of derivative trash.
There is a silver-lining though, I will never buy anything Beamdog is shoveling in the future."
"Wow. I don't hate Gay people, but they made a character gay to please a certain demographic? Screw them. It's your fans that matter, not politics. Tired of game companys being cowards like this. It's your game don't let someone discourage you to make your own personal vision."
"Baldur's Gate: Siege of Trannyspear amirite???"
"thanks for runing the franchise with your SJW fanfiction bullshit"

 

[Lacrymas]

People are especially bitter about this game. Why don't they have the same reactions to Bioware's abortions? At least SoD is a better game because of the IE engine. Maybe because it's easier to criticize (read: slobber at the mouth) political opinions rather than game design, writing outside of political views, level design, music etc. etc.

 

[Trashos]

People are especially bitter about this game. Why don't they have the same reactions to Bioware's abortions? At least SoD is a better game because of the IE engine.

Different fanbase.

 

[Stainless Veteran]

Dem comments on youtube.



"LOL Leave it to SJWs to ruin a classic pushing their agenda, nice job idiots."
"I just came here to say FUCK YOU BEAMDOG"
"you can change your gender with magic in this world... why tf would there be a trans person..."
"Maybe you guys should make your own game, instead of screwing up classics."
"for anyone wanting to buy this, i'll save you the trouble: this is Tumblr SJW: the Game"
"Screw you guys not wasting my money on this game. Screw SJW's."
"Well, here's a game I won't play. Fuck you, sjw motherfuckers."
"Game is a bug-filled piece of trash. Money not well spent but I was a Baldur's Gate fanboi so I got suckered into buying this crap.
The preachy, feminist, SJW dialogue makes it almost unplayable, then you get the bugs and it is an unplayable piece of derivative trash.
There is a silver-lining though, I will never buy anything Beamdog is shoveling in the future."
"Wow. I don't hate Gay people, but they made a character gay to please a certain demographic? Screw them. It's your fans that matter, not politics. Tired of game companys being cowards like this. It's your game don't let someone discourage you to make your own personal vision."
"Baldur's Gate: Siege of Trannyspear amirite???"
"thanks for runing the franchise with your SJW fanfiction bullshit"

mfw when youtube comments are saner than dev ones