Baldur's Gate #BaldurGate: Siege of Dragonspear

[Tao]

It's not fake.

The problem with the game is that you cant play it without noticing the PC agenda behind. The tranny is just ice on cream but as many people already said it's not in your face or forced, It's just plain stupid and another check, like the emasculation of the males, especially Minsc. All that withing the few 5h into the game.

Then you go and read the staments made by that Amber woman or the sad excuses of the rest of their team, acting like victims, and you just want to gave up to start a fire somewhere.

The rest of game is as good as an IE game can be by sheer force of the engine.

 

[Fitz]

More butthurt:

Is Cuckold Jimbo just pretending to be utterly retarded or is he really that dumb? I mean that doesn't make any sense at all, if someone would have made a mod to remove the Firedorn poem for triggered trannies nobody would have complained?

 

[pippin]

There seems to be a problem with the text though. Not dialogue, just the text. It reads normal but then there's this "Dziennik zaktualizowany" thing. Is that a bug?

 

[Immortal]

I have to agree with the minority here.

Oh wow big surprise.

To be fair to Infinitron, I think he's already acknowledged that the game is probably, at the very least, mediocre. I think his point was more that without the SJ shit, it wouldn't have been such a vocal condemnation.

I agree, Infinitron has been known to be a much worse shill in the past.
It is kinda funny how he pops in here once a day to condemn the radical behaviour - just in case aVENGER ever comes back.
Overall though Infinitron isn't shilling that badly.. at least compared to PoE..

 

[Infinitron]

There seems to be a problem with the text though. Not dialogue, just the text. It reads normal but then there's this "Dziennik zaktualizowany" thing. Is that a bug?

I think it's a Polish localized version of the game but with English dialogue.

 

[Black]

Is Cuckold Jimbo just pretending to be utterly retarded or is he really that dumb?

He's British.

 

[Metal Hurlant]

I'm embarrassed to say but I'm playing BGEE and will continue through SoD. I even mentioned earlier that I was playing it with different characters. eg. My level 1 Paladin's murderous rampage in Story Mode in Candlekeep with his default 25 STR, THAC0 in the minuses and ability to inflict massive crits which include Acid damage with his fists regardless of class. Why my character can inflict Acid damage with his fists, I have no idea. However, I dropped my original Dwarf Fighter that was supposed to be on Legacy of Bhaal difficulty due to a corrupt save and now playing a Bard. Although, all my saves are corrupted but I'm still persisting.

The base game is shit due to the following reasons:

Bugs. This is Baldur's Gate: Bug Edition.

Corrupted Saves. Pretty much every save game is corrupted. eg. the difficulty see-sawing up and down when you reload a game.

Custom Portraits not working properly. Some portraits are working, some aren't. No idea why.

The UI is just plain bad.

A.I. is incomprehensible.

The maps have a black border? when you near the side of the town map instead of the edge of the map being at the edge of your monitor.

The added NPCs Neera, Dorn, Rasaad and Baeloth are very much out of place. While the original NPCs have very little to say, these four fuckers won't shut the fuck up. Even when trying to add them to your party, they have a lot more dialogue to get through for them to join. The originals NPCs were easy. A couple of lines and they're in your party. These fuckers, especially the new one Baeloth, I felt like giving up halfway through. I thought Baeloth's dialogue would never end and thought Beamdog must be trolling me because he kept talking so much. Every dialogue option always had a second/third option with DIE DROW! I almost did kill him. If anything, I was curious to see what their class/stats were. Also, the NPCs dialogue is fan fiction at it's worst, they would also interject at times when I didn't want them to, and in the end I couldn't stand them anymore so I dropped them. I do not recommend having at least three of them in your party at once. In fact, just stick to the original NPCs.

I'm nearing the end of BG and will continue through SoD but given the fan fiction of the NPCs, I'll go in with an open mind. But from reading reviews, SoD is even more buggy and the writing even worse than the additions to the base game. That is not giving me a lot of confidence.

Summary:

How can you summarise this game? Well, this all starts with a very promising premise being an Enhanced Edition. Then, it fails to deliver. To play this game, you not only need to leave your brain at the door, but also most of the rest of your anatomy. So, plonk your anus on the seat and point it towards the screen, since that is the only part of your anatomy that will enjoy this steamer. Take the rest of your body to do some healthy exercise instead whilst your anus enjoys BG:EE Siege of Darkness.

As a game, this enhanced edition is indescribably bad. So bad that it can be used as a stunning example of how to take a great concept and totally and utterly destroy it. You could consider adding it to your collection. However, I doubt that anything I or anyone else will ever say about this game will influence your decision either way. If you have to have it, then you will buy it, otherwise you won't. If you do buy it, you can be assured that Beamdog has produced a stunning looking and sounding turd.

I did write a short review on Steam Not Recommending this. It's shit.

 

[Quatlo]

You know, when that is the level of writing you produce, it doesn't matter what you're writing about. It doesn't matter if it's an all-straight young man fantasy romp or a lesbian porno or a transsexual rights proclamation, you're just fucked right off the bat. Yes, I get it, it's a "stoners talking" dialogue, but I do recall there were druggies in BG1 and BG2, and while they were smoked out of their mind, their lines weren't "TV stereotype stoner"

Man, if that isn't fake, that's just fucking horrendous and a testament to the fact that everyone can apparently be a fucking writer in gamedev. No standards at all, NONE.

Hate to be the bearer of bad news but its real. Unfortunately.

There seems to be a problem with the text though. Not dialogue, just the text. It reads normal but then there's this "Dziennik zaktualizowany" thing. Is that a bug?

Its just polish version being undecisive what language it is in. So you have the new content in english with interface being in polish.

 

[pippin]

There seems to be a problem with the text though. Not dialogue, just the text. It reads normal but then there's this "Dziennik zaktualizowany" thing. Is that a bug?

I think it's a Polish localized version of the game but with English dialogue.

thatsthejoke.jpeg

 

[AwesomeButton]

I know they can be hard to find but nobody ITT who has actually played the game (except AwesomeButton who is in a particularly try-hard mood these days) actually thinks it's "fucking shit".

It might have failed commercially but it wouldn't have been a shitstorm - it would gone out with a whimper rather than a bang.

One of the reasons I'm on these forums is that being a nerd is usually approved of instead of ridiculed. So, by that logic, I'm always in try-hard mood.

My impressions of the game are not that bad. And I've said as much in a couple of posts, while I was in the tutorial dungeon. My impressions of the writing are just as bad as I describe them. Paradoxically, they probably wouldn't have been that bad if I hadn't given it that much thought.

Whatever my impressions on anything - game, writing, whatever, I don't expect them to be, and they shouldn't be, taken as The Sacred Word by anybody. Try the game out, form your own impressions, by all means. After all, there is no final authority on what constitutes fun.

 

[Black]

 

[Angthoron]

You know, when that is the level of writing you produce, it doesn't matter what you're writing about. It doesn't matter if it's an all-straight young man fantasy romp or a lesbian porno or a transsexual rights proclamation, you're just fucked right off the bat. Yes, I get it, it's a "stoners talking" dialogue, but I do recall there were druggies in BG1 and BG2, and while they were smoked out of their mind, their lines weren't "TV stereotype stoner"

Man, if that isn't fake, that's just fucking horrendous and a testament to the fact that everyone can apparently be a fucking writer in gamedev. No standards at all, NONE.

Hate to be the bearer of bad news but its real. Unfortunately.

Wow, that's pretty dire. Is that an "easter egg" kind of a thing, a quest you find as a reward for exploration, or is this something every Moe, Dick and Harry will stumble across on their playthrough?

 

[Sizzle]

The saddest part is that they spent all that time (and "talent"), to produce something that's on par (or even worse) with a big fan-made mod.

Almost everything about it - the story, dialogues, NPCs (both new and "old"), items, quests, environmental art, it's all more akin to something you would expect from a bunch of amateur modders (I know they hired many modders for this, but those guys actually made some pretty good mods), than a professional game studio.

 

[Black]

Even if it was an easter egg, I doubt it is, I thought they were supposed to be more subtle and not take an entire wall of text.

professional game studio.

That doesn't mean much nowadays.

 

[Sizzle]

You know, when that is the level of writing you produce, it doesn't matter what you're writing about. It doesn't matter if it's an all-straight young man fantasy romp or a lesbian porno or a transsexual rights proclamation, you're just fucked right off the bat. Yes, I get it, it's a "stoners talking" dialogue, but I do recall there were druggies in BG1 and BG2, and while they were smoked out of their mind, their lines weren't "TV stereotype stoner"

Man, if that isn't fake, that's just fucking horrendous and a testament to the fact that everyone can apparently be a fucking writer in gamedev. No standards at all, NONE.

Hate to be the bearer of bad news but its real. Unfortunately.

Wow, that's pretty dire. Is that an "easter egg" kind of a thing, a quest you find as a reward for exploration, or is this something every Moe, Dick and Harry will stumble across on their playthrough?

It's one of the first areas you can visit (after the starting dungeon) in BG, and the stoner NPC is pretty hard to miss (I think he has some various floating text like "Woah, like, wow!" and such, so you're pretty drawn to interact with him).

 

[Quatlo]

You know, when that is the level of writing you produce, it doesn't matter what you're writing about. It doesn't matter if it's an all-straight young man fantasy romp or a lesbian porno or a transsexual rights proclamation, you're just fucked right off the bat. Yes, I get it, it's a "stoners talking" dialogue, but I do recall there were druggies in BG1 and BG2, and while they were smoked out of their mind, their lines weren't "TV stereotype stoner"

Man, if that isn't fake, that's just fucking horrendous and a testament to the fact that everyone can apparently be a fucking writer in gamedev. No standards at all, NONE.

Hate to be the bearer of bad news but its real. Unfortunately.

Wow, that's pretty dire. Is that an "easter egg" kind of a thing, a quest you find as a reward for exploration, or is this something every Moe, Dick and Harry will stumble across on their playthrough?

He stands in the corner of the first inn you enter doing very long WOAAAH all the time. He gives you magical glassess that allow you to sometimes see ghosts and pull them to 1st plane and talk to them.

Here's the item:

Spoiler

 

[Angthoron]

You know, when that is the level of writing you produce, it doesn't matter what you're writing about. It doesn't matter if it's an all-straight young man fantasy romp or a lesbian porno or a transsexual rights proclamation, you're just fucked right off the bat. Yes, I get it, it's a "stoners talking" dialogue, but I do recall there were druggies in BG1 and BG2, and while they were smoked out of their mind, their lines weren't "TV stereotype stoner"

Man, if that isn't fake, that's just fucking horrendous and a testament to the fact that everyone can apparently be a fucking writer in gamedev. No standards at all, NONE.

Hate to be the bearer of bad news but its real. Unfortunately.

Wow, that's pretty dire. Is that an "easter egg" kind of a thing, a quest you find as a reward for exploration, or is this something every Moe, Dick and Harry will stumble across on their playthrough?

It's one of the first areas you can visit (after the starting dungeon) in BG, and the stoner NPC is pretty hard to miss (I think he has some various floating text like "Woah, like, wow!" and such, so you're pretty drawn to interact with him).

He stands in the corner of the first inn you enter doing very long WOAAAH all the time. He gives you magical glassess that allow you to sometimes see ghosts and pull them to 1st plane and talk to them.

 

[Mustawd]

There's nothing untrue about that statement.

BG1 is not considered a great RPG. BG2 is the one that is considered great. BG1 was good for what it was, but hardly great, let alone "one of the greatest of all time"

Hence the eyeroll. You disagree with this? I'm surprised.

 

[Ellef]

There's nothing untrue about that statement.

BG1 is not considered a great RPG. BG2 is the one that is considered great. BG1 was good for what it was, but hardly great, let alone "one of the greatest of all time"

Hence the eyeroll. You disagree with this? I'm surprised.

 

[Murk]

The strange "BG 1 was great" posts are perplexing to me too. For some reason I recall many thinking it was shit/bland/empty and some thinking "it was neat to wander around the wilderness instead of just dungeon dungeon dungeon".

I honestly can't recall people thinking it was _amazing_ or _one of the best_. Maybe they're building it up as a "look how bad it's gotten" comparison, or otherwise just using the word without really thinking about it.

I don't know, but BG 1 is about on par with NWN 2 OC to me. Most fun I had was when I basically just listened to music and gamed against the engine spamming web + archery pew pew. At that point, I wasn't playing baldur's gate so much as I was playing 'infinity engine simulator 2004' or whenever. IWD is better for that though ;D

BG 2 is bretty good though. Like, 4/5 bretty good.

 

[Tacgnol]

The strange "BG 1 was great" posts are perplexing to me too. For some reason I recall many thinking it was shit/bland/empty and some thinking "it was neat to wander around the wilderness instead of just dungeon dungeon dungeon".

I honestly can't recall people thinking it was _amazing_ or _one of the best_. Maybe they're building it up as a "look how bad it's gotten" comparison, or otherwise just using the word without really thinking about it.

I don't know, but BG 1 is about on par with NWN 2 OC to me. BG 2 is bretty good though. Like, 4/5 bretty good.

BG1 did have some good sections, Durlag's tower for example was a good dungeon crawl.

But yeah, overall I always thought BG1 was pretty bland.

 

[Infinitron]

The strange "BG 1 was great" posts are perplexing to me too. For some reason I recall many thinking it was shit/bland/empty and some thinking "it was neat to wander around the wilderness instead of just dungeon dungeon dungeon".

I honestly can't recall people thinking it was _amazing_ or _one of the best_. Maybe they're building it up as a "look how bad it's gotten" comparison, or otherwise just using the word without really thinking about it.

I don't know, but BG 1 is about on par with NWN 2 OC to me. BG 2 is bretty good though. Like, 4/5 bretty good.

Eh, there's always been an insurgency of people who prefer BG1 over BG2 for various reasons. Don't know how you could miss it. For a particular drastic case, see here: http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/inde...gate-series-thread.80753/page-47#post-3726295

 

[Black]

http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/why-was-bg2-subpar.1935/

 

[Murk]

Eh, there's always been an insurgency of people who prefer BG1 over BG2 for various reasons. Don't know how you could miss it. For a particular drastic case, see here: http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/inde...gate-series-thread.80753/page-47#post-3726295

There's a difference between preferring BG 1 over BG 2 and a large portion of people thinking BG 1 was _great_, the latter is what I was referring to. Unless they just kept silent, which is also possible. More realistically, decline etc. Also, the thread you linked is from a year ago -- I was referring to times in mid-to-late 2000s.

edit: jesus christ dude, the guy who wrote that post is some borderline larping fag talking about his 'journey' in a wall of text that would make Azrael the cat want a tl;dr.

 

[Immortal]

Eh, there's always been an insurgency of people who prefer BG1 over BG2 for various reasons. Don't know how you could miss it. For a particular drastic case, see here: http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/inde...gate-series-thread.80753/page-47#post-3726295

There's a difference between preferring BG 1 over BG 2 and a large portion of people thinking BG 1 was _great_, the latter is what I was referring to. Unless they just kept silent, which is also possible. More realistically, decline etc. Also, the thread you linked is from a year ago -- I was referring to times in mid-to-late 2000s.

I love BG1 but objectively I can admit it's nothing earth shattering.. At the time when it first came out though, I was shell shocked and absolutely loved it.