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Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 by Larian Studios - Early Access Patch 8: Bards & Gnomes

Harthwain

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46 hours to get out of the starting dungeon and 77 hours on record? That has to be bullshit where the second guy is making fun of the first guy.
I doubt it. The game does not explain stuff like THAC0 or saves, because these are covered in the manual, which was the old way (evenmoreso for the adventure games, when manuals were used as the anti-piracy measures). The contemporary standard is to explain stuff like this in the in-game tutorials, so it's yet another indicator as to who we're talking about (a modern player). However, with the internet the way it is now looking up this kind of information is really not an issue, meaning this is - beyond reasonable doubt - the real example of some annoying whiner who would complain about his own inadequacy rather than solve his problems. I mean, any sensible person who doesn't get the rules would check up on them, rather than play for 46 hours and make a review about not understanding what's going on. Conclusion - this is a manchild or just a stupid kid, but the review is likely genuine deal made by a real person.
 

Reinhardt

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how can he play 12 hours in starting dungeon if he has only 7 hours played total?
 

mediocrepoet

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You start at lv 3 after the tutorial in a village under attack
Your dude gains 2 levels over the course of a single day by attending a festival and participating in a militia and somehow that is not incongruous to you.

Modern XP systems... he more likely than not won first place in said festival. Credit where it's due. The last guy who did that got a whackload of levels and a prestige class out of it.
 

Reinhardt

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larian are poorfags. they can't even afford beamdog and have to do enhanced editions of their games themselves.
 

BruceVC

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Codex will have to come to terms with the fact BG2 was never good.

Modern reviewers exposed the game for what it is... average.

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But don't lose hope Codex, Larian will not disappoint you!.

I have mentioned this before but BG2: ToB is my favorite RPG of all time and that is against steep competition like W3, Elder Scrolls, ELEX and Gothic games, BT4, D:OS2 and other D&D themed games

Thats one of the main reasons I am such a sheeeeep of the final release of BG3. I have also avoided reading most of the posts and reviews of BG3 that gets created. I scan this thread but I want to keep the excitement of not knowing much about BG3 real :salute: So I just follow its development from a high-level perspective and I read the official updates from Larian and Sven which is always humorous, honest and relevant
 

jackofshadows

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Except by Larian cultists, everyone agrees that is the worst D&D CRPG adaptation(not counting shit like SCL) but will sell well cuz brand recognition.
Especially funny when you unironically write this again in a context of that old interview link which tells us that even half of Larian crew didn't know why BG3 is supposed to be a big deal. And in a context that you yourself like to repeat about dozens of gigabites mocap porn with Astarion.

My friend came up with a better term: BioWare regognition.
 

Cryomancer

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yeah, it's mandatory to get at least few level ups and pile of magic items in tutorial now.

In NwN2, literally the first enemy which I killed in the village gave me a +1 club. I'm not joking.


Nobody takes seriously game journalists.

The same game in the games when game journalists could have be taken seriously

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Modern XP systems... he more likely than not won first place in said festival. Credit where it's due. The last guy who did that got a whackload of levels and a prestige class out of it.

Video games tends to have ridiculous high growth rate for PCs. In NWN2, in few months you go from lv 0 commoner in a very poor village to a lv 20 duke of Crossroad keep/hero of neverwinter, destroyer of the King of Shadows and his army of darkness.

Is not only modern games. I was playing Ravenloft : Strahd possession and my mage started at lv 5 at age of sixteen. Since I din't rest spammed, I reached lv 7, almost 8 in less than a week in game time which is a ridiculous high growth rate. Few more months and I would have the first teen Archwizard in the realms(very few people can become archwizard and takes multiple decades to do so)

In non D&D video games, the same thing happens. In VtM, take decades if not centuries to master Thaumaturgy yet your fledgling can master it in few days before even being part of the Tremere pyramid.
 

Swen

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yeah, it's mandatory to get at least few level ups and pile of magic items in tutorial now.

In NwN2, literally the first enemy which I killed in the village gave me a +1 club. I'm not joking.


Nobody takes seriously game journalists.

The same game in the games when game journalists could have be taken seriously

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Look at the dates friend, gaming journalists gave an update, 13 years later the game got exposed finally. It's time for you to put off your nostalgia goggles, gaming journalists did too.
 

Anonona

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The same game in the games when game journalists could have be taken seriously

Game journalist has always been shit, just weren't in full propaganda mode. They shill the fuck out of whatever was the "hype" shit of the moment, gave too generous scores and read more like advertising that true reviews. They were the ones that inflated scores so much that nowadays a 7 is mediocre and 8 is just ok. Game journalist also supported retarded trends like the hate for TB games, brown as realistic graphics and shilling triple AAA games since forever.
 

Cryomancer

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Look at the dates friend, gaming journalists gave an update, 13 years later the game got exposed finally. It's time for you to put off your nostalgia goggles, gaming journalists did too.

Is not "nostalgia goggles", I only played most of the AD&D 2e CRPG adaptations as an adult. Is the fact that this games has good and immersive game mechanics and don't threat me as an retard. For game journos, kingmaker sucks cuz "i cant kill a insect swarm with an sword" and complete shit like Diablo 3 is a good game despite it being pure trash, full of cooldowns, stat stickie itemization and nonsensical BS like the amount of blood which a necromancer can drain from a skeleton by casting siphon blood being 100% dictated by the size and sharpness of his axe. I can enjoy lots of modern shooters, arcade like BF1 or realistic like A3, can enjoy modern racing games like Forza(...) but I just can't enjoy modern RPG's.

If wasn't by old school RPG's, I would't waste my time with this genre.

Game journalist also supported retarded trends like the hate for TB games, brown as realistic graphics and shilling triple AAA games since forever.

Agreed. And this is why being praised by them is not something to be proud of. Gothic 3 and ArcaniA has the same "metascore" while ArcaniA is pure shit. G3 is just not as great as G1.
 

Cryomancer

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I didn't play bgII until like 2017 and it whipped ass. It's not a nostalgia thing. The game is good.

Was the normal game or ""enhanced"" edition?

I only played the Dreamforge and SSI games in 2020 and loved all which I"ve played so much... People who know me from my first years of Codex know that I was a huge 3.5e fan and fan of sorcerer class.

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Look the variations. Two Dark Sun games, Two Ravenloft games, one set in Barovia and other in Har'Aki desert, a adventure which starts in icewind dale and ends in underdark, now we only have boring "sword coast" based games as if no other place exists in D&D. Took a time to get used to some clunky controls but they are miles above any modern game.

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Is not fair to compare BG3 to BG2 cuz BG2 is way better. But what about BG3 VS "Siege of Dragonspear"??? I would say that both are bad in writing, encounter design and story but SoD wins cuz uses the best ruleset.
 

Brickfrog

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I remember when I was a kid I didn't have a PC so when I got the PS2 "baldurs gate" twin stick arpg thing I thought I was playing the Real McCoy rofl.

It wasn't until I talked to my friend who had the real game that I found out I had been dupped lol
 
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Alienman

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I remember when I was a kid I didn't have a PC so when I got the PS2 "baldurs gate" twin stick arpg thing I thought I was playing the Real McCoy rofl.

It wasn't until I talked to my friend who had the real game that I found out I had been dupped lol

How did those gaming conversations go?
 

somerandomdude

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Never cared for Larian Studios, or their games. Which made it a really easy pass on BG2 EE, and this game as well.

They lost me with Divinity Original Sin, the game was gutter tier.
 

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