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Seriously, though, have you lot just kept replaying the EA through all these patches?
That's what I've been doing with Colony Ship. It's a great experience cause it feels like the Iron Tower is actually listening to our feedback and acknowledges them. So its all a nice heart warming experience!:love:

I like to do at least one playthrough in each new patch and try to report bugs that I encounter so the devs can fix it.
 
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You guys need to learn to stop celebrating pagecounts when Infinitron's online.

So I guess you're playing the GOG version now?
Seriously, though, have you lot just kept replaying the EA through all these patches? I suffered those terrible controls through most of the Underdark once, now I'm just waiting for the release. Eventually. You keep Beta testing every new class or spell Swen adds, you'll be bored out of your skull with the first chapter by the time the game launches.
I agree. Infinitron should've split this thread at page 50
 

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cool story bro
And I took offense to that. No really:
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You can check my steam account:
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I don't play this game, lmao.

I did believe your story. As I believe in your high grade autism.
You'll be missing out on a good game nevertheless.
 
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Diablo1_reborn x
cool story bro
And I took offense to that. No really:
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You can check my steam account:
https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198116647917

I don't play this game, lmao.

I did believe your story. As I believe in your high grade autism.
You'll be missing out on a good game nevertheless.
I might actually rebuy the game and play it again. I just want to see what stuff they do for monk. It's my favorite class.
 

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cool story bro
And I took offense to that. No really:
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You can check my steam account:
https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198116647917

I don't play this game, lmao.

I did believe your story. As I believe in your high grade autism.
You'll be missing out on a good game nevertheless.
I might actually rebuy the game and play it again. I just want to see what stuff they do for monk. It's my favorite class.
Thats a good approach, I very seldom write off any game. Why deny yourself potential gaming fun because of 1 or 2 bad experiences especially in design or early access phase?
 
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>why deny yourself potential gaming fun because of 1 or 2 bad experiences especially in design or early access phase?
because i dont want to spend time playing a game only to realize that i hate it. so i have to be careful what i spend my time on. this has happened a couple of times where i waste too many hours on a game then think to myself,"shit the game turned into a bad game after reaching this point, i dont wanna play anymore". baldurs gate 3 still being ea makes me hopeful for its future though.
 

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cool story bro
And I took offense to that. No really:
5UnoeNG.png
You can check my steam account:
https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198116647917

I don't play this game, lmao.

I did believe your story. As I believe in your high grade autism.
You'll be missing out on a good game nevertheless.
I might actually rebuy the game and play it again. I just want to see what stuff they do for monk. It's my favorite class.
What made you refund this game anyway? I can understand that people might get pissed because of this game being EA for two years (?) now, but surely you must see that the game has a huge potential of becoming a fantastic RPG.
 

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>why deny yourself potential gaming fun because of 1 or 2 bad experiences especially in design or early access phase?
because i dont want to spend time playing a game only to realize that i hate it. so i have to be careful what i spend my time on. this has happened a couple of times where i waste too many hours on a game then think to myself,"shit the game turned into a bad game after reaching this point, i dont wanna play anymore". baldurs gate 3 still being ea makes me hopeful for its future though.

I agree with the sentiment about limited time and not spending that time on any game thats bad or boring

I have never been part of early access in any game because I dont want to ruin the excitement of my first play through. And because BG2:ToB is my favorite RPG overall of all time BG3 has become my most anticipated game of all time

And I have been reading some of the criticism and concerns but Im really optimistic its going to be epic for me
 
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What made you refund this game anyway?
Cause it feels like a downgrade to Chalice 2. Chalice 2 features:
- Mage Transformations
- Monk; which will soon get reworked to have cool buffs and some class kits
- Good Enemy AI that will challenge you tactically
- Best implementation of DnD ruleset, with modifications by Pierre (some of the modifications are actually great quality of life changes), which adheres to the ruleset as faithfully as it can.
- Module Editor so you can create your own content
- Lots and lots of feats
- level cap beyond 20
- Hand crafted encounters that are made to challenge you and make you think
- Lots of cool classes
- Complete in-game database that is super easy to access and use
- Fluid Hotkey system that makes playing the game feel natural, playing the game feels like water cause of how smooth the experience is
- Pierre is also constantly updating the game while adding new things

Baldur's Gate 3 on the other hand required me to mod my favorite class just so I can enjoy the game. So that's a fail on the game :P
 

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What made you refund this game anyway?
Cause it feels like a downgrade to Chalice 2. Chalice 2 features:
- Mage Transformations
- Monk; which will soon get reworked to have cool buffs and some class kits
- Good Enemy AI that will challenge you tactically
- Best implementation of DnD ruleset, with modifications by Pierre (some of the modifications are actually great quality of life changes), which adheres to the ruleset as faithfully as it can.
- Module Editor so you can create your own content
- Lots and lots of feats
- level cap beyond 20
- Hand crafted encounters that are made to challenge you and make you think
- Lots of cool classes
- Complete in-game database that is super easy to access and use
- Fluid Hotkey system that makes playing the game feel natural, playing the game feels like water cause of how smooth the experience is
- Pierre is also constantly updating the game while adding new things

Baldur's Gate 3 on the other hand required me to mod my favorite class just so I can enjoy the game. So that's a fail on the game :P
Chalice sounds fun and it looks like it has nice features, I must look into it
 

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I have never been part of early access in any game because I dont want to ruin the excitement of my first play through. And because BG2:ToB is my favorite RPG overall of all time BG3 has become my most anticipated game of all time

And I have been reading some of the criticism and concerns but Im really optimistic its going to be epic for me
Hey Bruce, how are you? I haven't gotten to talk with you in a while!
I actually didn't know ToB was your favorite.. or perhaps I'd forgotten you mentioning it, but it is one of mine for sure. My girlfriend has been playing BG3 recently with some online friends, they offered her a code or something so she didn't have to pay for it. Unfortunately you know I'm not as open as you are to games and from everything I've seen and that she's explained to me, I find myself increasingly disinterested. I doubt it will change any time soon but hey, my feelings about NWN changed after almost 20 years, maybe I'll feel differently in 2040, if we're still here.
 
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I must look into it
You don't have to. It's just my baseline for how I think a DnD computer product should feel like.
 

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You don't have to. It's just my baseline for how I think a DnD computer product should feel like.
I bought a copy of Chalice 2 but haven't loaded it up yet. Between it, Grimoire and Kenshi I've got a bunch lined up to experience. I haven't even finished the first one but I do wish they retained the graphics and overall presentation of it in the new one.
 
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there's no they. it's just a single guy working on it. hence on the concessions pierre had to make on the game.
 

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there's no they. it's just a single guy working on it. hence on the concessions pierre had to make on the game.
Right, I did know that but wasn't thinking. I actually forgot it was even coming out and had been away from gaming for a few months so when I saw it on GOG I grabbed it immediately.
 
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There's going to be some interesting content in store for the game. Plus he's going to buff a couple classes. Then there's modules that he promised he'll get done in the upcoming months. As well as more feats too. So if you don't play it now. There'll be good content waiting once you eventually get to it.
 

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There's going to be some interesting content in store for the game. Plus he's going to buff a couple classes. Then there's upcoming modules that he promised he'll get done in the upcoming months. As well as more feats too. So if you don't play it now. There'll be good content once you eventually get to it.
Awesome! Not to piss anyone off who enjoys or looks forward to BG3 being up in the thread, but it is reassuring to know that despite D&D games heading into a direction far away from the Gold Box roots catering to a different audience, there are still some games out there devoted to recreating the earlier ruleset experiences.
 
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Not to piss anyone off who enjoys or looks forward to BG3 being up in the thread
This is Codex, friendo. Pissing people off is the entire shtick of the site =)
 

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What made you refund this game anyway?
Cause it feels like a downgrade to Chalice 2.
:| All credit to Pierre for KotC 1&2 but they aren't even the same sort of game and the goals and target audience are completely different.

BG3 is a more narrative driven game like the first two and is trying to bring in a reasonably accurate version of the 5E ruleset just as the first two did with 2E back in the day.

KotC 1&2 use Pierre's homebrew versions of 3E and are basically a series of combat encounters with little in the way of plot or non-combat mechanics.

It's almost bizarre to compare them if you ask me. It's like saying you refunded Resident Evil: Village because you prefer the features in Minecraft.
 

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What made you refund this game anyway?
Cause it feels like a downgrade to Chalice 2. Chalice 2 features:
- Mage Transformations
- Monk; which will soon get reworked to have cool buffs and some class kits
- Good Enemy AI that will challenge you tactically
- Best implementation of DnD ruleset, with modifications by Pierre (some of the modifications are actually great quality of life changes), which adheres to the ruleset as faithfully as it can.
- Module Editor so you can create your own content
- Lots and lots of feats
- level cap beyond 20
- Hand crafted encounters that are made to challenge you and make you think
- Lots of cool classes
- Complete in-game database that is super easy to access and use
- Fluid Hotkey system that makes playing the game feel natural, playing the game feels like water cause of how smooth the experience is
- Pierre is also constantly updating the game while adding new things

Baldur's Gate 3 on the other hand required me to mod my favorite class just so I can enjoy the game. So that's a fail on the game :P
LMFAO, imagine unironically playing and liking this MsDOS looking trash in the year of our lord 2022

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1233530/Knights_of_the_Chalice_2/

Remind this french cuck called "Pierre" that I'm the king of Crpg's.
 
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What made you refund this game anyway?
Cause it feels like a downgrade to Chalice 2.
:| All credit to Pierre for KotC 1&2 but they aren't even the same sort of game and the goals and target audience are completely different.

BG3 is a more narrative driven game like the first two and is trying to bring in a reasonably accurate version of the 5E ruleset just as the first two did with 2E back in the day.
Not an excuse for Trash combat and garbage controls. Even PS:T has better gameplay than DOS3 and the same control scheme as BG1+2, IWD1+2, and it was a narrative based game. BG1 alone had way better gameplay than this trash.
KotC 1&2 use Pierre's homebrew versions of 3E and are basically a series of combat encounters with little in the way of plot or non-combat mechanics.
I don't remember Barrelmancy or the excess of groundfire effects being in 5e last time I checked. I also don't remember the ruleset for lifting objects (such as those pertaining to barrelmancy) being anything close to the way they're represented here.
 

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What made you refund this game anyway?
Cause it feels like a downgrade to Chalice 2. Chalice 2 features:
(...)

Baldur's Gate 3 on the other hand required me to mod my favorite class just so I can enjoy the game. So that's a fail on the game :P

Yep. KoTC2 is a masterpiece. They are the closest thing to a modern Dark Sun : Shattered Lands + Wake of the Ravager.

KotC 1&2 use Pierre's homebrew versions of 3E and are basically a series of combat encounters with little in the way of plot or non-combat mechanics.

To be fair, both games are completely different with completely different target audience. Pierre is aiming in the early 90s RPG fans. Larian is aiming at the Bioware crowd. I disagree with your analogy with RE/Minecraft cuz we are talking about two games which are D&D adaptations. A better analogy would be project CARS and Mario Kart, both are technically racing games and both have completely different target audience.

imagine unironically playing and liking this MsDOS looking trash in the year of our lord 2022

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1233530/Knights_of_the_Chalice_2/

Remind this french cuck called "Pierre" that I'm the king of Crpg's.

DOS RPGs are more immersive than modern RPGs.

Also, if you wanna play D&D CRPG's in more ""exotic"" settings like Dark Sun or Ravenloft, you need to play this Strategic Simulations/Dreamforge games.

PS : Swen is only the king of MODERN rpgs.

BG1 alone had way better gameplay than this trash.

DOS era games which Swen keep criticizing has better gameplay than DOS3 Faerun Edition.
 
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, I don't think Larian's looking for player feedback
Yeah, I know. That's why I stay away from big games. When it comes to giving feedback or sending bug reports. I kind of learned this lesson from Owlcat.

It's almost bizarre to compare them if you ask me
Not really, but you're entitled to your opinion.
 

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KotC 1&2 use Pierre's homebrew versions of 3E and are basically a series of combat encounters with little in the way of plot or non-combat mechanics.

To be fair, both games are completely different with completely different target audience. Pierre is aiming in the early 90s RPG fans. Larian is aiming at the Bioware crowd. I disagree with your analogy with RE/Minecraft cuz we are talking about two games which are D&D adaptations. A better analogy would be project CARS and Mario Kart, both are technically racing games and both have completely different target audience.
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So what you're saying is that two video games focusing on different market segments that have some but not a lot of overlap is better defined by your analogy, but not the original one which said the same thing? Got it. You really gave me a lot to think about.
 

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