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Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 Early Access Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

Vatnik Wumao
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pay a prostitute only to talk.
You'd be surprised how pleasant this experience could be. Anyway, your metaphor is very odd, at least you shoud've change to 'only to look at her naked' or something.
Many high end escorts also get commissioned by richfags as to accompany them to fancy dinners and what have you.
 

Ontopoly

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pay a prostitute only to talk.
You'd be surprised how pleasant this experience could be. Anyway, your metaphor is very odd, at least you shoud've change to 'only to look at her naked' or something.
Many high end escorts also get commissioned by richfags as to accompany them to fancy dinners and what have you.
That's because those men are pathetic and care more about what other men think of them then any women does. The escorts are a trophy you use to symbolize you can catch a pretty women, a trophy that was bought that you have to return at the end of the night. A prostitute is more about buying a service or entertainment for a night.
 

Lacrymas

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That's because those men are pathetic and care more about what other men think of them then any women does.
Very off the mark. You hire escorts to keep you company when you are in a foreign country for example. It has nothing to do with what other men think. Well, I'm sure some men do this to show off, but you know what I mean.
 

Mazisky

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Normal males with a penis want to look\interact with good looking women just like normal gamers want to look\interact with good looking games.

I strongly disagree. Looks improve the quality of sex far more than improve the quality of a game. The most important thing on the game is the gameplay. FF14 has gorgeous graphics? Yes. but the gameplay is just managing cooldowns and farming nonsensical looking gear. I would prefer to play Dark Sun Online : Crimson Sands with DOS era graphics(if the mmo was alive) than to play a game which fells more like work than a living breathing world. Obviously, the same game with far better graphics would become even better.

Morrowind + Graphics mod > base morroing > modern RPG's.

Solasta despite being inferior to BG3 in graphics, is superior in every other aspect. Larian managed to screw up even a firebolt cantrip. and solved the "hur dur missing is not fun" by destroying every non evocation spell more than 5e already destroyed and even messing hard with evocation, creating a very boring game despite the good graphics.

If gameplay is only important and graphics doesn't matter, we can just play 90's games over and over and be fine with it without even posting on forums about new games.

You can play ASCI games for life and be happy

NVIDIA company built a multimillion empire just to prove you wrong I am afraid.
 

Butter

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If gameplay is only important and graphics doesn't matter, we can just play 90's games over and over and be fine with it without even posting on forums about new games.

You can play ASCI games for life and be happy

NVIDIA company built a multimillion empire just to prove you wrong I am afraid.
Normies get tricked by fancy graphics and "cinematic" visuals. This has been known since at least Final Fantasy 7.
 

Mazisky

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The fact is that a game can look good even without fancy graphics as long as it has good and pleasant art.

Pathfinder WOTR has unity crap engine, still looks gorgeous.

Pillars of Eternity has unity crap engine, still manages to look good.

Divinity Original Sin is a disgrace of a game, but it looks good.

Battle Brothers is full 2d with no animation, still looks good.

Solasta doesn't look good.

So why play a game that looks bad only cause its gameplay when there are many example of games with good gameplay that look good too.

Some people seems to believe this ancient myth where if you make a good graphics then gameplay can't be good.
 

Larianshill

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Solasta is ugly. The monsters look good, but the player characters - especially their faces - are pretty awful. Which wouldn't be a problem, if the camera did not constantly show their faces to me.
But I don't like Solasta for it's graphics.
 

Cryomancer

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Nope. I an the ChaoticEvilWarlock on reddit.

But he is not 100% right. A lv 1 mage on 5e is far stronger than a lv 1 mage on 2e. In other hands, a lv 20 mage on 2e is extremely stronger than a lv 20 mage on 5e. This applies to magic casters. A clone of 2e Strahd is extremely stronger than the ""real"" Strahd on 5e.

You can play ASCI games for life and be happy

I din't said that graphics doesn't matter. Only that they aren't the most important thing in a game. 90s RPG's despite the dated graphics are far more immersive than modern games. Gothic 1 >>>>> Gothic remake despite the """better"""" graphics.

Lacrymas is the most interesting man on the board.

I an agreeing with you?
 

Mortmal

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Solasta is ugly. The monsters look good, but the player characters - especially their faces - are pretty awful. Which wouldn't be a problem, if the camera did not constantly show their faces to me.
But I don't like Solasta for it's graphics.
BG3 chars are gorgeous, but ugly is too harsh for solasta, they are lower poly count and budget but still good enough and they certainly have a classic feel. Now if you want real ugly you go look at KOTC 2 .
 

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Problem with Solasta is they went cinematic triple A approach with low budget, which obviously doesn't work. They could have done cartoony or more stylized with that budget, the outcome would have been better
 

Anonona

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I din't said that graphics doesn't matter. Only that they aren't the most important thing in a game. 90s RPG's despite the dated graphics are far more immersive than modern games.

I agree. I would consider good art direction far more important than technical quality when it comes to graphics. Even low poly games cam look great when the devs making them know their craft.

Problem with Solasta is they went cinematic triple A approach with low budget, which obviously doesn't work. They could have done cartoony or more stylized with that budget, the outcome would have been better

I think this in particular is the issue with Solasta characters. No need to go all "Overwatch or WoW-like" graphics, but aiming for a more stylized approach could have work better. Pathfinder:KM and WotR's characters may not be impressive, but they are better looking than Solasta and Owlcat knows not to focus on the faces of the 3D models. Those games look actually very good, specially for an AA studio. I would even say than the biggest issue with Solasta's characters is that they are downright ugly, not only because of technical limitations, but also because, well, they made them fucking ugly, I don't know why. Everything else look fairly good, specially because of their focus on good lightning and smaller, more precisely crafted environments.
 

Mazisky

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Back on topic, I would say I really hated Original Sin 2 but I enjoyed much Baldur's Gate 3 EA. So there is really a high chance that those who didn't like DOS2 may like BG3 aswell.

It just feel more like a proper RPG and less like typical Larian stuff
 

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Back on topic I hated every single thing I played from Larian since Divine Divinity but this one seems fun. Using other people's settings might have tempered Larian's shitposting a bit, I don't know.
 

Mazisky

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Also the game may get negative reviews from journalists, because there are way too many white characters and the females look pretty good. Let's hope they don't give it the "Californian" pass before release.
 

Cryomancer

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Uh... really?

And ... I was wrong once again. I write this while I purchased the game with extremely low expectacies and wrote it before I encoutnered most of BG3 problems, like low level goblins with enough HP to soak cannon shots, spiders with over 100 hp, din't tested enchantment and similar spells and so on.

Yep. I praised Larian's BG3 and I regret it.
 

Delterius

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Solasta is ugly?

solasta_crown_of_the_magister_demo_04.jpg


wow these look better than NwN2's

why is Larian so powerful, gents?
 

gurugeorge

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Strap Yourselves In
Solasta's characters are a bit jank in the closeups, but the game looks fine in in top down view, the way you're playing it most of the time. The environments have nice art design.
 

rojay

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I bounced off of Divinity: Original Sin like a marble off a bull's ass. I have not had that same visceral dislike for BG3, playing the early access, and am going to give it a shot once it's released. I trust they'll fix the UI issues and hopefully the NPCs will improve.

I'm more enjoying how Solasta implements the 5e rules where combat is concerned at this point, and while it's light on story, I'm still more interested in seeing how it plays out than I am in discovering why there's a tadpole in my character's brain or OH SHIT MINSC!
 

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