Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 Early Access Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[a cut of domestic sheep prime]

Every steam forum should have “Feedback” and “Suggestions” threads where all the stupid spam can be stored.

No, they aren’t going to change turned based to real time any more than they’re going to change Doom into an top down strategy game because of your dumb, barely-readable comment on a forum.

 

[Kazuki]

It also very difficult to add optional combat to change turn based to RtwP rather than RtwP to Turn based.

It's not a matter which system is better but it is very impossible to do so without completely changing the game from the ground up.

Maybe Larian can give the option to speed up or skip the combat animation to speed up the combat and that's the best they can give.

 

[a cut of domestic sheep prime]

Has anyone figured out the actual consequences of using the [Illithid] dialog options?

About to replay it and go full tentacle.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

Has anyone figured out the actual consequences of using the [Illithid] dialog options?

About to replay it and go full tentacle.

Maybe it's a MotB sort of deal giving you the possibility to go for an Illithid ending?

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Has anyone figured out the actual consequences of using the [Illithid] dialog options?

About to replay it and go full tentacle.

Spoiler

All I can tell you is that it's definitely monitored

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Liked the intelligent ogre in the blighted village btw.

Spoiler

He's wearing a circlet that gives a boost to intelligence

 

[a cut of domestic sheep prime]

It also very difficult to add optional combat to change turn based to RtwP rather than RtwP to Turn based.

It's not a matter which system is better but it is very impossible to do so without completely changing the game from the ground up.

Maybe Larian can give the option to speed up or skip the combat animation to speed up the combat and that's the best they can give.

I’ve seen NPCs engage in combat and even that looks like they’re taking turns, yeah.

The reason people don’t like turn-based is because they can’t figure it out and just want to select all the party members and click attack like you could in half the fights in BG 1&2.

Al the whining about a lack of realism and it really just comes down to laziness and ignorance.

 

[a cut of domestic sheep prime]

Liked the intelligent ogre in the blighted village btw.

Spoiler

He's wearing a circlet that gives a boost to intelligence

Ah see, now that’s a brilliant touch.

 

[Gargaune]

That's how it works in PnP at least. No idea about BG3.

Ah, well that's the point of contention here. I know the basic P&P mechanic, but thinking back to Swen's gameplay promos I don't recall anything to indicate a roll was being done outside of the cone of view, quite the contrary. Like in the first presentation, when he sneaks up behind the halfling on a crate or the chick patrolling in the dungeon, or when he's sneaking around those skeletons at the end of the demo.

I even saw a YouTuber suggest that if you're Heavily Obscured (no light in the room, in the example), you don't need to roll in the cone of vision either, and you only get caught if you practically bump into the NPC. It's late, so I'm not gonna pull up the PHB, but that seems like an outlandish implementation for a videogame. If it's so dark that you don't need to roll even six feet in front of the guy, then you also shouldn't be able to see him yourself unless you've got Darkvision or something.

 

[Kazuki]

I’ve seen NPCs engage in combat and even that looks like they’re taking turns, yeah.

The reason people don’t like turn-based is because they can’t figure it out and just want to select all the party members and click attack like you could in half the fights in BG 1&2.

Al the whining about a lack of realism and it really just comes down to laziness and ignorance.

Most of them just want to speed up the pace of combat, if the combat is early part or trash mob it's bearable when taking a turn
but when the combat starting have more enemy and complex it's start to become unbearable.

That's based on my observation rather the complain about lack of realism.

 

[a cut of domestic sheep prime]

Has anyone figured out the actual consequences of using the [Illithid] dialog options?

About to replay it and go full tentacle.

Maybe it's a MotB sort of deal giving you the possibility to go for an Illithid ending?

Spoiler

I think every time you do it, the parasite bites a chunk out of your brain.

Other than that though, I have no idea what the end result would look like.

Ceramorphosis isn’t a positive thing. I’m not sure how it could be spun to be a positive thing, unless you can swing some kind of deal for the Illithid to implant your memories and personality in the new Illithid that takes you over or whatever...

Spoiler

The very fact that you aren’t turning into an Illithid by day 5 should signal that something like this MAY be possible.

 

[a cut of domestic sheep prime]

Infiltrating the goblin fortress is a lot more involved that I thought it would be.

There really are a ton of them in there, so straight combat may be challenging.

Spoiler

If you free the goblin prisoner in the druid grove, she'll help you, but she'll also reveal the location of the druids to the goblin's leaders.

 

[Sharpedge]

Has anyone figured out the actual consequences of using the [Illithid] dialog options?

About to replay it and go full tentacle.

Maybe it's a MotB sort of deal giving you the possibility to go for an Illithid ending?

Spoiler

I think every time you do it, the parasite bites a chunk out of your brain.

Other than that though, I have no idea what the end result would look like.

Ceramorphosis isn’t a positive thing. I’m not sure how it could be spun to be a positive thing, unless you can swing some kind of deal for the Illithid to implant your memories and personality in the new Illithid that takes you over or whatever...

Spoiler

The very fact that you aren’t turning into an Illithid by day 5 should signal that something like this MAY be possible.

Spoiler

In the Underdark there is a friendly mindflayer who you can ask to remove the tadpole. He fails, but in trying he tells you that there is something preventing the tadpole from going through its normal process. Imo its more likely that the "something else" is just using the tadpole as a convenient control mechanism and doesn't actually want mind flayers as its end result.

 

[Poseidon00]

Infiltrating the goblin fortress is a lot more involved that I thought it would be.

There really are a ton of them in there, so straight combat may be challenging.

Spoiler

If you free the goblin prisoner in the druid grove, she'll help you, but she'll also reveal the location of the druids to the goblin's leaders.

Spoiler

Don't you have the option to intercept them before they get there? I seem to remember that being an option.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Has anyone figured out the actual consequences of using the [Illithid] dialog options?

About to replay it and go full tentacle.

Maybe it's a MotB sort of deal giving you the possibility to go for an Illithid ending?

Spoiler

I think every time you do it, the parasite bites a chunk out of your brain.

Other than that though, I have no idea what the end result would look like.

Ceramorphosis isn’t a positive thing. I’m not sure how it could be spun to be a positive thing, unless you can swing some kind of deal for the Illithid to implant your memories and personality in the new Illithid that takes you over or whatever...

Spoiler

The very fact that you aren’t turning into an Illithid by day 5 should signal that something like this MAY be possible.

Spoiler

In the Underdark there is a friendly mindflayer who you can ask to remove the tadpole. He fails, but in trying he tells you that there is something preventing the tadpole from going through its normal process. Imo its more likely that the "something else" is just using the tadpole as a convenient control mechanism and doesn't actually want mind flayers as its end result.

Spoiler

I remember someone else also tells you this. Was it Halsin?

 

[a cut of domestic sheep prime]

Infiltrating the goblin fortress is a lot more involved that I thought it would be.

There really are a ton of them in there, so straight combat may be challenging.

Spoiler

If you free the goblin prisoner in the druid grove, she'll help you, but she'll also reveal the location of the druids to the goblin's leaders.

Spoiler

Don't you have the option to intercept them before they get there? I seem to remember that being an option.

Spoiler

I don't think so. You meet her there and she leads you inside, but there's never really an opportunity to kill her between that point and the point she introduces you to her leader and discloses the druids' location.

 

[a cut of domestic sheep prime]

Has anyone figured out the actual consequences of using the [Illithid] dialog options?

About to replay it and go full tentacle.

Maybe it's a MotB sort of deal giving you the possibility to go for an Illithid ending?

Spoiler

I think every time you do it, the parasite bites a chunk out of your brain.

Other than that though, I have no idea what the end result would look like.

Ceramorphosis isn’t a positive thing. I’m not sure how it could be spun to be a positive thing, unless you can swing some kind of deal for the Illithid to implant your memories and personality in the new Illithid that takes you over or whatever...

Spoiler

The very fact that you aren’t turning into an Illithid by day 5 should signal that something like this MAY be possible.

Spoiler

In the Underdark there is a friendly mindflayer who you can ask to remove the tadpole. He fails, but in trying he tells you that there is something preventing the tadpole from going through its normal process. Imo its more likely that the "something else" is just using the tadpole as a convenient control mechanism and doesn't actually want mind flayers as its end result.

Spoiler

I remember someone else also tells you this. Was it Halsin?

Spoiler

Wait, so you can't remove the tadpole at all in Act 1?

lol, everything was a false choice all along.

 

[Poseidon00]

Spoiler

I don't think so. You meet her there and she leads you inside, but there's never really an opportunity to kill her between that point and the point she introduces you to her leader and discloses the druids' location.

Spoiler

I mean after you lead her there and they leave to attack the camp. I seem to recall the journal saying you could intercept them, but I didn't try it. I might as well just try it and see what happens since I have a save right at that point.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Spoiler

Wait, so you can't remove the tadpole at all in Act 1?

lol, everything was a false choice all along.

Spoiler

Halsin can do it? No.

Spoiler

Volo? Yes. Let him do his surgery.

 

[DeepOcean]

Cohh finished his lp and I finished watching it and I don't get it. Where's actual Faerun, and Sword Coast? There wasn't even a realistic settlement of any kind. Basically beginning is some tiefling village, druid circle, goblin dungon, some extra dungeons and quests scattered around; then barely few levels old he jumped into Underdark and pushes Hook Horrors and Bulettes from ledges, doing quests for Good Mushroom Village and meets good illithid who wants to make underdark great again. And then approaches something which looks like big lair of an Enemy.

That gave me feeling that Ch 1 is this then Ch 2 is Underdark (?) and Ch 3 is actual Baldur's Gate but ON FIRE because it would probably be attacked by magic tadpoles - those that don't do anything, because Magic.

If that is the case, that would suck.

How is Ch 1? Can you actually travel on a non linear way and explore freely the country side like you can on BG 1 or they try to railroad you?

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Cohh finished his lp and I finished watching it and I don't get it. Where's actual Faerun, and Sword Coast? There wasn't even a realistic settlement of any kind. Basically beginning is some tiefling village, druid circle, goblin dungon, some extra dungeons and quests scattered around; then barely few levels old he jumped into Underdark and pushes Hook Horrors and Bulettes from ledges, doing quests for Good Mushroom Village and meets good illithid who wants to make underdark great again. And then approaches something which looks like big lair of an Enemy.

That gave me feeling that Ch 1 is this then Ch 2 is Underdark (?) and Ch 3 is actual Baldur's Gate but ON FIRE because it would probably be attacked by magic tadpoles - those that don't do anything, because Magic.

If that is the case, that would suck.

How is Ch 1? Can you actually travel on a non linear way and explore freely the country side like you can on BG 1 or they try to railroad you?

It's all one big map with no loading screens. Relatively nonlinear, well designed imo.
I just went in whatever direction and did stuff until I ran out of stuff to do, didn't do it in any particular order.

 

[Sharpedge]

Spoiler

Wait, so you can't remove the tadpole at all in Act 1?

lol, everything was a false choice all along.

Spoiler

Halsin can do it? No.

Spoiler

Volo? Yes. Let him do his surgery.

Spoiler

I think the Hag in the swamp can allegedly do it, but there is a heavy penalty for having it removed.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

Fell for the BG3 meme and the mapping of the controls is grinding my gears (particularly in regards to rotating the camera and the lack of WASD movement outside of combat).

That said, the character models for the PC look quite nice and the opening music is absolutely gorgeous.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

One thing I haven't seen brought up yet is the facial animations.
Other than the bugged ones, they're some of the best I've seen in an RPG in a long time.

 

[a cut of domestic sheep prime]

One thing I haven't seen brought up yet is the facial animations.
Other than the bugged ones, they're some of the best I've seen in an RPG in a long time.

Eh, some are ok, sure, but nothing Witcher 3 level.

As I've said many times before, this is Dragon Age level stuff, which means it's going to be really decent, but nothing epic.