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Game News Baldur's Gate 3 Community Update #14: Patch 6 - Forging the Arcane

Discussion in 'News & Content Feedback' started by Infinitron, Oct 15, 2021.

  1. Fenix Arcane Vatnik

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    Much ado about nothing.
     
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  2. KeighnMcDeath RPG Codex Boomer

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    I wouldn't always count on mod support to fix or make a game better. I didn't try the demo or buy early access (or buy it as GOG does have it) so I should shut my trap.

    Maybe like a bandaid I should just rush buy the latest: BG3, DISCO, Path WOTR, CP2077... eh whatever else.

    Nah... I can wait longer.
     
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  3. MicoSelva Prestigious Gentleman The House Always Wins Patron

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    I remember being awestruck when I first reach the Underdark in Baldur's Gate 2. It was such a nice surprise and a new, unknown situation for my party to deal with. It still gives me shivers when I think about it.

    These days RPG devs seem keen on revealing everything up front, sacrificing mystery and joy of exploration for marketing. I really hate this.
     
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  4. Ulfhednar Learned

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    They keep saying ‘Baldur’s Gate 3’, but when I watch the video it’s just BalD:OS Gate 3... meh...
     
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  5. gulagdandy Novice

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    I mean. It's an isometric CRPG set in the Forgotten Realms, and it will ostensibly feature some characters from the original games at some point. So yeah, I can see how it can be considered a sequel. But I agree with everyone here that it could have taken more design cues from BG1 and 2.

    I personally would have liked it if they at least had referenced the original UI. I think it's pretty iconic and holds up pretty well, and much more immersive than the current one.
     
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  6. Roguey Codex Staff Sawyerite

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    https://www.mobygames.com/game/baldurs-gate-ii-shadows-of-amn/cover-art/gameCoverId,7320/

    Visiting the Underdark was a selling point on the box itself. Back then you just didn't pay any attention to these things.
     
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  7. Decado Prestigious Gentleman Old time handsome face wrecker Patron

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    I'm not picking on you, but I want to focus on a word you used (that I assume you used on purpose) which is "ostensibly." Because what the word actually means (and again, not picking on you) is that something appears a certain way that it may not actually be; to use the literal dictionary term it means "apparently or purportedly, but perhaps not actually."

    And I have to say that your use of the word has quite remarkably captured the feeling I get when I watch the game being played -- when I read the dialog, when I see the combat, when I look at the classes, when I try to follow the limited story that has so far been released. This game is ostensibly a Baldur's Gate game. It makes a great effort to appear as one; it is apparently or purportedly a Baldur's Gate game, but perhaps not actually. What does it mean that some characters from the original games may appear, at some point? One gets the feeling he is about to have his expectations subverted. This is only ever enjoyable when you don't know it is happening and further, only works occasionally (in the hands of a truly gifted writer, for example, which I am sure we are not dealing with here).

    The whole thing feels flimsy, artificial. It's fake news. They have had ample opportunities to showcase how this game will connect to the first two, or at least proceed from them. As I recall, the original third entry in the BG story -- The Black Hound -- was not directly related to BG 1/2. Okay. Maybe that would have worked, and maybe not. But the license was surely in better hands at the time. Maybe Black Isle were the only ones who could release a BGIII only tangentially connected to BG 1/2, and maybe we wouldn't have cared. But too much time has passed, and there has been 20 years of pontificating over BG2. You cannot just pick this thing up again, unless it bears some semblance to the thing it used to be.

    The fanfare of Larian's BG 3 announcement quickly dissolved. We're left with a rather generic looking DnD game, one that exists amidst a growing crowd of similar games to include Pillars, Pathfinder, Solasta, and more.

    The game will no doubt do well, buttressed by "people" who "like" "hardcore RPGs." Sure, fine, whatever. But by my lights, Sven has some explaining to do. In what way is the Baldur's Gate title anything more than a marketing ploy, a way to borrow the credibility of the two preceding games? To put it another way, if the words "Baldur's Gate" were removed from the title of the game, what would change? Would you know it was the third in a series? If not, what is the name doing -- other than what I suspect it is doing, which is not good?
     
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  8. MicoSelva Prestigious Gentleman The House Always Wins Patron

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    The only thing I read about it before release was a short preview blurb in a printed magazine. I never saw the box until it arrived in the mail. Also, Polish box is different. You should not assume things. ;)
     
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  9. Roguey Codex Staff Sawyerite

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    'fair nough, but that info was there for the people looking for it https://web.archive.org/web/2000081...lt.ign.com/features/intelligence/bg2soa.shtml

     
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  10. Gyor Learned

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    Starting off with Wild Magic was silly, it's by far the most niche and off putting of the Sorcerer subclasses, Divine Soul and Shadow Soul would have been the easiest to implement and are among the most popular.

    But that is my only complaint, Sorcerers are fun.
     
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  11. Skdursh Learned

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    I don't really care who gets butthurt over the truth of it, but Larian makes pretty decent games. As far as modern big-name RPGs go, they are the best we are getting out of the AAA sector. Naming this "Baldur's Gate 3" was a mistake, but that's really the only negative thing I can say about it.
     
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  12. Rinslin Merwind Liturgist

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    Btw, in the middle of the fucking night, my mind (tormented by boredom and insomnia) conjured a theory that in was push from WoTC to shoehorn Wild Magic sorc into he game, because there a certain youtube channel doing a D&D campaign with plot involving a Wild Magic sorc and Divination wizard and, oh boy, sponsorships form WoTC drop like a rain, even though channel is not very big. Also some codexers compained about WoTC being obsessed with Divination wizard( this school manipulates with rolls too), so maybe WotC really intervened in development of BG3. This could also explain, why Larian decided to add new classes, instead of ,you know, finishing the fucking game first.

    P.S. After writing this comment I want to sleep again, truly, every BG3 thread is magical place. This one casting sleep and main one casting power word - blind and mind blank, just to forget stupid nonsense written here.
     
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  13. Larianshill Scholar

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    So, you think WotC has some sort of plot...
     
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  14. Bigg Boss Arcane

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    This is how I feel. It might not feel like Baldur's Gate but it feels ok for what it is. They really do need to keep the Divinity out of the BG though. If I buy this shit and find myself casting rain and then lightning to stun I will throw my fucking monitor out the window.
     
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  15. Fenix Arcane Vatnik

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    Uncanney valley effect?
     
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  16. Delterius Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    how dare you

    assume being silly is a bad thing
     
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  17. Tyrion8338 Novice

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    I`ve loved original baldur`s gate games and I really enjoyed bg3 early access. I`m looking forward to playing full version.
     
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  18. luj1 You're all shills

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    The ruleset and cinematic dialogue are shite

    Plus cringe writing, idiotic companions and SJW stuff
     
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