Game News Baldur's Gate - Ten Years After

[elander_]

The Baldurs Gate series may not be brilliant but it still beats everything D&D related that was done before and after it. I'm talking about the game as a whole because if you separate a D&D into it's components then you have ToEE combat and Planescape story telling. Now if you could combine these two into a single game it would be awesome.

 

[Black]

The Baldurs Gate series may not be brilliant but it still beats everything D&D related that was done before and after it.

MOTB never happened or what?
And if we're talking about pure D&D adaptation then I heard something about a game called... Temple of Elemental Evil or something.

 

[DriacKin]

BG was a great game...10 years ago. LET IT DIE, CODEXERS!

I really wish that Bioware would let BG2 die off, and actually start doing something new with their games instead of just copying the BG2 formula over and over again

 

[Black]

BG was a great game...10 years ago. LET IT DIE, CODEXERS!

I really wish that Bioware would let BG2 die off, and actually start doing something new with their games instead of just copying the BG2 formula over and over again

Well, they did something new.
And Mass Effect came out.
Maybe they should just stop making games

 

[fastpunk]

Hey, no matter your opinion on Bioware games, Baldur's Gate 2 is a must play. If you take it apart and judge it piece by piece you'll definitely end up unimpressed, but as a whole it's really good. There's so much stuff to do and the city of Athkatla is awesome. Anyone who hasn't tried BG2 should definitely consider it.

 

[Volourn]

"definitely"

You are 'definitely' wrong.

 

[elander_]

I really wish that Bioware would let BG2 die off, and actually start doing something new with their games instead of just copying the BG2 formula over and over again

They can do much worse than copying an old successful formula. They can dumb it down and then sell it as the next great thing in gaming. Before you wish that people don't copy old games be careful with what you wish.

 

[Smarts]

You mean like that Sarevok's two-hander +2 that you get from the trapped djinn in the first dungeon of BG2?

Yeah, Gorion totally gave that to you.

Because Spellhold never happened. No sir.

Good thing you got her out before she told the Empire where the Rebel Base was.

I'm sorry, I can't discuss this seriously with someone whose forum name begins with 'Darth'. I'm pretty sure you see the Star Wars story in news broadcasts and on the back of cereal packets.

 

[Longshanks]

The story clearly has intended Star Wars overtones. Boo, the giant space hamster (ie Chewy) was obviously a nod to this. Even throw in Khalid as C-3PO if you like. No surprise they went on to make KOTOR and Mass Effect.

 

[Drakron]

Except not, the giant space hamster is a Spelljammer joke.

 

[ixg]

also because of the phase based combat.

what?

 

[aries202]

also because of the phase based combat.

what?

also known as the round based combat or the real time with pause combat that has become Bioware's trademark through the years. In BG1 a round is 6 seconds, a turn is 60 seconds, I think? You pause the game, decide what that characters are going to do; the unpause, and the action happen in real time, but delayed because each character is on their own individual 6 seconds rounds...

 

[ixg]

No, that's called real time with pause.

 

[Redeye]

also because of the phase based combat.

what?

also known as the round based combat or the real time with pause combat that has become Bioware's trademark through the years. In BG1 a round is 6 seconds, a turn is 60 seconds, I think? You pause the game, decide what that characters are going to do; the unpause, and the action happen in real time, but delayed because each character is on their own individual 6 seconds rounds...

AD&D 1e Segment is 6 seconds, Round is 10 segments, Turn is 10 Rounds.
I'm not sure how they sped it up for BG, but I'm sure it was more than 1 round per 6 seconds because then the combat would be super slow. Count it out: 1-2-3-...
Maybe it was 1 round every 2-3 seconds.


@thread: Noober is Jar Jar

 

[Carlos' Bitch1]

It's not a bad game really. I had plenty of fun with it. Indeed there are better games and better parts of games but as a whole I enjoyed it.

 

[Volourn]

"AD&D 1e Segment is 6 seconds, Round is 10 segments, Turn is 10 Rounds."

What a fuckin' tool. Don't speak if ignorant.

In AD&D 2E 9ie. BG's rules), a round is 60 seconds. A turn is 10 rounds. Segment? You must be referring to initivave which determines when someone actually takes their turn.

BG (and, most of BIO's games) shortend it to 6 seconds because who the fuck would wnat to wait an entire 60 seconds for their turn in a video game? LMAO

In 3E, a round was achanged to 6 seconds, and a turn was still 10 rounds.

Fuckin' n00bs.

 

[Jeff Graw]

Funny thing, though:

I still have not played any of the BG games. At all. Ever.

Don't plan on it now, after seeing Lumpy's LP thread where he completely trashed it.

Well, you're missing out. The Infinity engine is beautiful and just "feels" right, there's some C&C with characters being able to disapprove and leave your party and/or kill one another. and while Bioware's mannerisms are present, they don't retarded enough to notice too much (unless you're really looking) until the BG2 Throne of Bhaal expansion.

 

[Redeye]

"AD&D 1e Segment is 6 seconds, Round is 10 segments, Turn is 10 Rounds."

What a fuckin' tool. Don't speak if ignorant.

In AD&D 2E 9ie. BG's rules), a round is 60 seconds. A turn is 10 rounds. Segment? You must be referring to initivave which determines when someone actually takes their turn.

BG (and, most of BIO's games) shortend it to 6 seconds because who the fuck would wnat to wait an entire 60 seconds for their turn in a video game? LMAO

In 3E, a round was achanged to 6 seconds, and a turn was still 10 rounds.

Fuckin' n00bs.

Read the Whole Post.
The second line and after implicitly indicated that BG rules were different. I negected to mention possible 2E variations because I though the educated folks here would fill in the details for themselves.
Also: 1 segment of 6 seconds x 10 = 60 seconds. (1 Round)

Also: "don't speak if ignorant" - segments were used to count how long it takes to cast a spell. A spell with a 1 segment casting time like Magic Missile would launch 6 seconds (1 segment) after beginning of a round in PnP (if it were cast at the very beginning of a round) , a 9-segment (generally a 9th level spell) would occur 54 seconds after the beginning of a round.

As noted in the original post, it was sped up for BG.

 

[Occam]

"AD&D 1e Segment is 6 seconds, Round is 10 segments, Turn is 10 Rounds."

What a fuckin' tool. Don't speak if ignorant.

In AD&D 2E 9ie. BG's rules), a round is 60 seconds. A turn is 10 rounds. Segment? You must be referring to initivave which determines when someone actually takes their turn.

BG (and, most of BIO's games) shortend it to 6 seconds because who the fuck would wnat to wait an entire 60 seconds for their turn in a video game? LMAO

In 3E, a round was achanged to 6 seconds, and a turn was still 10 rounds.

Fuckin' n00bs.

Read the Whole Post.
The second line and after implicitly indicated that BG rules were different. I negected to mention possible 2E variations because I though the educated folks here would fill in the details for themselves.
Also: 1 segment of 6 seconds x 10 = 60 seconds. (1 Round)

Also: "don't speak if ignorant" - segments were used to count how long it takes to cast a spell. A spell with a 1 segment casting time like Magic Missile would launch 6 seconds (1 segment) after beginning of a round in PnP (if it were cast at the very beginning of a round) , a 9-segment (generally a 9th level spell) would occur 54 seconds after the beginning of a round.

As noted in the original post, it was sped up for BG.

Owned.

 

[Longshanks]

Except not, the giant space hamster is a Spelljammer joke.

I believe it serves both purposes nicely. Not that I knew a thing about Spelljammer before you mentioned it :wink:.

 

[Vaarna_Aarne]

The Baldurs Gate series may not be brilliant but it still beats everything D&D related that was done before and after it.

MOTB never happened or what?
And if we're talking about pure D&D adaptation then I heard something about a game called... Temple of Elemental Evil or something.

PS:T

 

[Applegate's Breasts]

The hell? Was that article about Baldur's Gate or Dragon Age?

 

[Melcar]

There is like a DA plug every 3 fucking lines.

 

[Drakron]

I believe it serves both purposes nicely. Not that I knew a thing about Spelljammer before you mentioned it :wink:.

Spelljammer was a short lived setting that was one of the two settings that connected the different D&D settings (the other was Planescape), even if Ravenloft was "disconnected" from it due to Ravenloft being a planar setting and not a "world".

Its a real obscure reference, someone on BioWare did knew their stuff (example, in BG2 the Githyanki board thge ship after Spellhold and the ship they use is a Spelljammer ship) also the text of most of the books on the game(s) was directly lifted from the Forgotten Realms 2nd Ed. AD&D Campaign Setting Box.

 

[Melcar]

Ah, Spelljammer. It was like a geek orgy.