Battlefield 5 - going back to WW2

[AwesomeButton]

So, this game seems dead. And Angry Joe gave it a "V/10"...

 

[aweigh]

Oh, I guarantee you that devs pushing their own agendas is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY worse than "gamers expecting historical accuracy".

The former is premeditated and malicious.

 

[Dexter]

I don't know which is more retarded, developers trying to push equality issues into games or gamers that expect "historical accuracy" from a Battlefield game?

 

[Dexter]

https://twitter.com/tweetelenarie

I hope they turn the next "Battlefield" into an even bigger shitshow.

 

[Big Wrangle]

Make the next one some futuristic World War 4 shit and everyone will forget. Problem solved.

 

[Black]

https://twitter.com/tweetelenarie

I hope they turn the next "Battlefield" into an even bigger shitshow.

SIGH

 

[agentorange]

I don't know which is more retarded, developers trying to push equality issues into games or gamers that expect "historical accuracy" from a Battlefield game?

At least for me, and I assume for a lot of others, it's not so much the lack of historical accuracy, but the self-congratulatory attitude that they have about the changes they've made. For example I have no issue with the game Project Darkness, which has women fighting with vampires and werewolves in WW2, because the developers didn't say "We're gonna show the real heroes of WW2, women and furries! Fuck you white men!" It's clearly a fantastical interpretation of WW2.

And really, Battlefield games may not have been historically accurate games worthy of being cited in a research paper or some shit, but they were basically realistic and somewhat grounded, with the usual video game abstraction, they weren't outright fantasy or alt-history. The Bad Company series was the one that was supposed to be the more XTREME off-shoot of the series with some alt-history elements, but they didn't make this new Battlefield part of that series.

 

[DeepOcean]

But hey, I really support EA going on this direction, maybe on their next FIFA, they should include a 50% female players quota on the roster, I think EA should keep the good fight, with those sale trajectories they are having, maybe on the future we could have a real definitive incline. I think those brave male feminists at DICE should go all the way and maybe one day start collecting some unemployment checks to show how aware they are of the inequality of the world, that would certainly make the world a better place.

 

[Dexter]

Btw. apparently they pushed all the "bugfixes" since release back and tried releasing it in some big Patch that was supposed to come out today, this is apparently what BFV players got instead:

 

[AwesomeButton]

https://twitter.com/tweetelenarie

I hope they turn the next "Battlefield" into an even bigger shitshow.

If anything, you can't make shitty games which abuse the Battlefield name harder and for longer than I can abstain from buying them. Let's see who blinks first. Retards.

 

[Jimmious]

But hey, I really support EA going on this direction, maybe on their next FIFA, they should include a 50% female players quota on the roster

Afaik FIFA does have women football since a year or two

 

[Makabb]

I don't know which is more retarded, developers trying to push equality issues into games or gamers that expect "historical accuracy" from a Battlefield game?

For a second I thought this is real untill I saw Dice and EA, today you never can be sure anymore.

 

[Roygbiv]

Btw. apparently they pushed all the "bugfixes" since release back and tried releasing it in some big Patch that was supposed to come out today, this is apparently what BFV players got instead:

I thought that black guy in the center was wearing headphones around his neck for about 5 minutes.

 

[Hellion]

http://boundingintocomics.com/2018/12/04/ea-mocks-battlefield-v-critics-despite-poor-sales/

EA Mocks Battlefield V Critics Despite Poor Sales

In celebration of the release of their new title, EA Dice recently hosted a launch party in Stockholm, Sweden for the development staff behind Battlefield V. At one point during the celebration, EA Dice projected upon a large screen a graphic which seemingly mocks the fans who complained about the game’s direction:

The graphic shown by EA displayed the hashtag #everyonesbattlefield surrounded by some of the comments directed towards EA by Battlefield fans. The hashtag was created in response to the rise of the protest hashtag #notmybattlefield.

The comments surrounding the featured hashtag read “Feminism ruins everything, feminazies [sp] are trying to rewrite history!”, “Genderfield 5!”, “What the f*** was [sp] the developers thinking!”, “White men! White men! White men!”, and “Did my grandfather storm the beaches of Normandy for this?!”

Battlefield V has been rife with controversy since it’s initial announcement. Announced as an immersive World War II experience, EA Dice revealed that the game would instead focus more on ‘fun’ and ‘diversity’ than historical accuracy, much to the dismay of players. In response to these criticisms and complaints, EA Dice’s then Chief-Design-Officer Patrick Soderlund infamously told players in an interview with Gamasutra that players had the options to “accept it or don’t buy the game”.

Though EA Dice may be confident enough in their product to openly mock detractors, the numbers concerning Battlefield V may prove that this smug confidence is undeserved. At about a month before release the pre-order numbers for Battlefield V were behind a competing game, Call of Duty: Black Ops 4, by 85%, leading analysts to warn that the game may be a ‘serious disappointment’ and also ‘put the company’s financial guidance at risk’. Even after EA noted that they would be making changes to the game in order to improve authenticity, these numbers were not seeing significant changes.

The game also saw discounts of up to 50% off during Black Friday and Cyber Monday, less than one week after the game’s release. While discounts on new titles during these shopping events are not uncommon, it is rare to see such a heavy discount for a recently released game (competing games Call of Duty: Black Ops 4 and Red Dead Redemption II’’s lowest sale prices were both $40 during the same sales event).

Despite releasing directly prior to Black Friday, Battlefield V sales were down 63% compared to its predecessor, Battlefield 1 (it is important to note that these sales charts only account for physical sales and do not include digital sales). The forecast for future sales does not hold much hope as critics give Battlefield V less than stellar reviews. Variety notes that Battlefield V “is an unfinished game”, Digital Trends noting that the game has “some pretty glaring faults”, and Eurogamer emphatically noting that it’s “the glitchiest, most technically troubled DICE’s sandbox multiplayer has been since the infamous launch of Battlefield 4, and even the launch itself is all over the place.” (The Eurogamer review was so disappointing to EA that an EA employee supposedly attempted to directly leap to Battlefield V’s defense).

EA also has yet to deliver the widely touted Firestorm mode (a Battle Royale-type mode in the vein of Fortnite). This mode, delayed for 5 months after launch as the team needed extra development time, could sway public opinion if delivered competently. However, judging by the initial release and reception, Firestorm’s release could be too little too late.

EA is already celebrating the release of Battlefield V as a major victory against ‘gamers’ and ‘toxicity’, but the factual data that is publicly available paints a very different picture. As sales returns come in far under projection and reviewers continue to point out the frustrating lack of polish, Battlefield V is on track to be a massive failure for the video gaming giant. It seems that when an audience comes to a game for a more authentic experience, they don’t want to be given a Fornite-esque aesthetic in a historic military setting.

 

[J_C]

http://boundingintocomics.com/2018/12/04/ea-mocks-battlefield-v-critics-despite-poor-sales/

EA Mocks Battlefield V Critics Despite Poor Sales

In celebration of the release of their new title, EA Dice recently hosted a launch party in Stockholm, Sweden for the development staff behind Battlefield V. At one point during the celebration, EA Dice projected upon a large screen a graphic which seemingly mocks the fans who complained about the game’s direction:

The graphic shown by EA displayed the hashtag #everyonesbattlefield surrounded by some of the comments directed towards EA by Battlefield fans. The hashtag was created in response to the rise of the protest hashtag #notmybattlefield.

The comments surrounding the featured hashtag read “Feminism ruins everything, feminazies [sp] are trying to rewrite history!”, “Genderfield 5!”, “What the f*** was [sp] the developers thinking!”, “White men! White men! White men!”, and “Did my grandfather storm the beaches of Normandy for this?!”

Battlefield V has been rife with controversy since it’s initial announcement. Announced as an immersive World War II experience, EA Dice revealed that the game would instead focus more on ‘fun’ and ‘diversity’ than historical accuracy, much to the dismay of players. In response to these criticisms and complaints, EA Dice’s then Chief-Design-Officer Patrick Soderlund infamously told players in an interview with Gamasutra that players had the options to “accept it or don’t buy the game”.

Though EA Dice may be confident enough in their product to openly mock detractors, the numbers concerning Battlefield V may prove that this smug confidence is undeserved. At about a month before release the pre-order numbers for Battlefield V were behind a competing game, Call of Duty: Black Ops 4, by 85%, leading analysts to warn that the game may be a ‘serious disappointment’ and also ‘put the company’s financial guidance at risk’. Even after EA noted that they would be making changes to the game in order to improve authenticity, these numbers were not seeing significant changes.

The game also saw discounts of up to 50% off during Black Friday and Cyber Monday, less than one week after the game’s release. While discounts on new titles during these shopping events are not uncommon, it is rare to see such a heavy discount for a recently released game (competing games Call of Duty: Black Ops 4 and Red Dead Redemption II’’s lowest sale prices were both $40 during the same sales event).

Despite releasing directly prior to Black Friday, Battlefield V sales were down 63% compared to its predecessor, Battlefield 1 (it is important to note that these sales charts only account for physical sales and do not include digital sales). The forecast for future sales does not hold much hope as critics give Battlefield V less than stellar reviews. Variety notes that Battlefield V “is an unfinished game”, Digital Trends noting that the game has “some pretty glaring faults”, and Eurogamer emphatically noting that it’s “the glitchiest, most technically troubled DICE’s sandbox multiplayer has been since the infamous launch of Battlefield 4, and even the launch itself is all over the place.” (The Eurogamer review was so disappointing to EA that an EA employee supposedly attempted to directly leap to Battlefield V’s defense).

EA also has yet to deliver the widely touted Firestorm mode (a Battle Royale-type mode in the vein of Fortnite). This mode, delayed for 5 months after launch as the team needed extra development time, could sway public opinion if delivered competently. However, judging by the initial release and reception, Firestorm’s release could be too little too late.

EA is already celebrating the release of Battlefield V as a major victory against ‘gamers’ and ‘toxicity’, but the factual data that is publicly available paints a very different picture. As sales returns come in far under projection and reviewers continue to point out the frustrating lack of polish, Battlefield V is on track to be a massive failure for the video gaming giant. It seems that when an audience comes to a game for a more authentic experience, they don’t want to be given a Fornite-esque aesthetic in a historic military setting.

I wonder what hurts more. The feelings of some gamers who had been mocked by EA like this, or the millions of dollars which EA lost because of BF5.

 

[Reinhardt]

https://twitter.com/tweetelenarie

I hope they turn the next "Battlefield" into an even bigger shitshow.

ZIEG

fixed

 

[J_C]

But hey, I really support EA going on this direction, maybe on their next FIFA, they should include a 50% female players quota on the roster

Afaik FIFA does have women football since a year or two

Does it suck as much as it sucks in real life?

 

[DeepOcean]

If the tech bubble bursts it's not going to bring down any AAA game publishers, the companies that will go bust are the "mega-startups" like Tesla and Uber etc. that live off investor money rather than sales. Vidya game sales would probably increase as people who lose their jobs due to the crash can no longer afford luxury entertainment and turn to gaming as a cheaper way to spend their free time.
The entertainment industry has always been largely recession-proof.

Many of those companies are overledged as fuck, dunno about this.

 

[Hellion]

The new "The Last Tiger" war story that was introduced after the delayed update is rather decent for the most part. They're trying to pass a constant over-melodramatic "German soldier disillusioned with the war" vibe but at least you control an imba Tiger tank and destroy around 9.000.000 Shermans.

 

[Generic-Giant-Spider]

As a father if your daughter asks you why she can't be a girl in a video game you should do the right thing and tell her to get the fuck off your computer and go back to practicing piano and ballet and playing with her pink dressed dolls.

If your daughter is not doing this, you're raising a dyke or a porn star.

 

[Grimlorn]

I wonder at what point is this all illegal? Corporations are legally required to do everything the can to earn money for investors or stock holders. But in this case, EA seems to be putting social justice ideology before earning money, and even mocking their consumers. This is reflected in their stock value going from about $150 in July to $80 today. Investors should be livid and considering legal action against them.

 

[Big Wrangle]

It's an attempt at staying relevant I guess, the "bad publicity" tactic. But let's be honest, BF5's fate is likely sealed at this point, they could get the greatest PR of all-time next week and nothing will change.

 

[DemonKing]

EA is already celebrating the release of Battlefield V as a major victory against ‘gamers’

I'm no businessman but surely the idea of releasing a product that pisses off your core demographic is counter productive?

I'm pretty sure the audience for an authentic WW2 experience would be much bigger than the audience of SJW's desperate to play a strong, powerful, disabled woman of colour in a quasi-historical setting. Seems like the lunatics are running the asylum at EA at the moment.

It's a shame because the actual game is decent and the SJW elements are not too intrusive, but they're shooting themselves in the foot by doubling down on this crap publically.

 

[Generic-Giant-Spider]

The last classic EA game was NHL '94. Change my mind.

 

[Taka-Haradin puolipeikko]

The last classic EA game was NHL '94. Change my mind.

Dark Omen was pretty good.