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Baldur's Gate Beamdog's Baldur's Gate 1 & 2 Enhanced Editions

Discussion in 'General RPG Discussion' started by Xzar, Feb 28, 2012.

  1. Nano Prestigious Gentleman Arcane Patron

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    The SCS version nerfs Chant, just FYI.
     
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  2. Fedora Master Arcane Patron

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    The fucks so bad about an aoe +1/-1?
     
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  3. Average Manatee Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    I mean... I guess it stacks with Prayer to give +2/-2 to everyone, which means your 10d6 fireball gets goes from an average of 10x3.5 damage to 10x5 damage, so +15 to average damage, and the enemies get -15 if they did a fireball. Doesn't seem terribly nerf-worthy though. You have to cast it in battle, its slow, and it makes you slow as hell and mostly useless generally.
     
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  4. Wayward Son Fails to keep valuable team members alive

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    i actually forgot iwdification the last time I installed bg. Like it somehow completely slipped my mind to install that lol.
     
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  5. Infinitron I post news Patron

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    https://steamcommunity.com/games/228280/announcements/detail/3025823552043692355

    Also BG2:EE.
     
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  6. kangaxx Learned

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    Why are they still patching these?
     
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  7. Melcar Arcane

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    Because.
     
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  8. oldmanpaco Master of Siestas

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    To ruin mod compatibility.

    LOL
     
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  9. Nano Prestigious Gentleman Arcane Patron

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    Does Beamdog have any other reason to exist now?
     
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  10. Tom Selleck Arcane

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    I am glad they keep updating my baldurs-gate-on-my-ipad-while-doing-a-turd experience, though
     
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  11. Xeon Augur

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    Huh, I don't think there is any benefit for them to still patch the games. Unless BG3 is giving them some exposure again or something. Not sure what dropping support for 32bit system could help for such an old game. I doubt most people who own the EE still use 32bit systems but still feels kinda weird.

    Overall, kudus for continuing the support after all these years I guess.
     
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  12. Gordian Nutt Educated

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    Still cannot understand why they call these editions 'enhanced'

    Denchanced needs to be a word or just stick with Diminished Edition
     
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  13. Mr. Magniloquent Liturgist

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    I'm getting around to playing Baldur's Gate EE for the first time. This series was an obsession for me, so I thought it might be fun to compare it to Kingmaker since I just got done with my 2nd KM play through. My last BG play-through was in 2014 or 2015. I wanted to see what vanilla was like, but also try out the Beamdog content. I'm also running linux now, so EE seemed like a no brainer. Thus far, the game holds up very well. Character building is pretty much non-existent, but the game itself is still very enjoyable. Many of the companions in KM were "meh", so the relatively lower interaction with my party members is actually a bit refreshing.

    Outside of loading times, all the beamdog changes do actually suck. I do not like their UI changes at all. I plan on taking both Neera and Rasad, though Neera is making me hold my nose already. I've only just gotten to the Nashkel mines. I've got a long way to go until SoD, but I'm having a great time anyway. This game truly is a masterpiece.
     
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  14. Pizzashoes Learned

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    Beamdog's version is pretty bad compared to a well modded installation, but that would require some knowledge and effort to set up.
     
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    Abashed the Beamdog stood and saw how awful making games is.
     
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  16. Mr. Magniloquent Liturgist

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    Pizzashoes Mods got me rehooked back into the game. I have a mod list and install order guide on my profile that I made.
    Show Spoiler

    Game 1
    Game 2
    No CD Hack
    Ascension
    Wheels of Prophecy
    Baldur's Gate 2 Fixpack

    Baldur's Gate Trilogy
    Baldur's Gate Trilogy Tweaks

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    Baldur's Gate 1 Mods
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    Baldur's Gate I Restored Narration
    Baldur's gate Lightmaps
    Baldur's Gate Unfinished Business
    Baldur's Gate Mini-Quests & Encounters
    NPCs
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    Level 1 NPCs
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    Baldur's Gate Tweaks

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    Baldur's Gate 2 Mods & Else
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    Baldur's Gate 2 Unfinished Business
    Pocket Plane Group Quest Pack
    Assassinations
    Pocket Plane Banter
    iepBanter
    Baldur's Gate 2 Creature Fixer
    Oversight
    Rogue Rebalancing
    Improved Horns
    Item Revisions
    One Pixel Productions
    Baldur's Gate II Sheild Animation Fix
    PnP Free Action
    Wildmage Expansion
    WizardSlayer Mod
    Shapeshifter Mod
    Spell Revisions
    Picky Familiars
    PnP Celestials
    Sword Coast Strategems II
    gMinion
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    eSeries (PC Scripts)
    WideScreen
    Generalized Biffing
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    I played it enough for year unmodded to where I remember the differences. I do want to play through it unmodded for comparison, but I'm still getting the urge to install some of my favorites. One in particular that gets looked over is aTweaks from Spellhold studios. The PnP Fiends feature makes devils and demons FAR more threatening both in stats and behavior. Moving caster HLA to a single innate per day was also a really good feature. Wheels of Prophecy also gave Monks some badass HLA that almost make them worth the investment. That being said, I'm probably going to drop Rasad after I do his BG quest. I don't feel like carrying his dead weight to the Underdark before he starts performing.
     
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  17. Average Manatee Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    It's amazing how non-EE BG functions, since apparently there's around 10 or 20 bugs per spell what with how every EE patch fixes "hundreds" of bugs every time they update.
     
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  18. kangaxx Learned

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    Usually gets the rope as soon as she appears in my playthroughs. I find her intolerable.

    The only Beamdog NPC who doesn't get ignored or even killed on sight is Dorn.
     
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  19. Orobis Arcane Sychophantic Noob

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    Does that mean you accept Dorn's advances?
     
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  20. kangaxx Learned

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    I have done so once. Orc'ed.
     
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  21. Chippy Arcane

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    So not only do they keep patching it to fuckup the mods, but now they're changing system requirements so that some poor sod on a potato PC can't play it?. Watta bunch of cunts.
     
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  22. NJClaw Ontopolover by choice Patron

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    Fuck Beamdog, obviously, but are 32-bit systems even classifiable as computers anymore?
     
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  23. Gargaune Scholar

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    It's not like that, they're trying to tidy up their overextended pipelines. Beamdog's a relatively small company, and while they're not dealing with AAA-level developments here, they're covering so many different platforms that it's clearly difficult for them to keep up - you've got the IE-based EEs on multiple PC storefronts, Android, iOS, Xbox and PS, and then NWN EE on PCs, Android and iOS.

    All those permutations are a maintenance nightmare, so now that Apple's forced them to migrate to 64-bit anyway, they're deprecating the outgoing 32-bit support to streamline their production processes.
     
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  24. Xeon Augur

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    Man, if the only reason they dropped 32bit was because of mobile then that's kinda fucked up.
     
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  25. Gargaune Scholar

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    That's not exactly what I meant - Apple barred 32-bit applications from their store three years ago, with iOS 11, which forced Beamdog to hurry up and port all their applicable titles to 64-bit with priority back then. I think they even went MIA on the App Store for a bit at the time, though I might be misremembering. Now, since they're likely under pressure to trim their convoluted multiplatform pipelines and telemetry probably suggests shrinking 32-bit use among their PC playerbase, they figured they might as well give 32-bit the axe and buy themselves some breathing room.
     
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