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[MetalCraze]

Because we all know it's going to suck as an RPG.

Skyrim is RPG?

 

[hoopy]

You know you are desperate when a game contains "Torture, serial murder of innocent people, gleefully sadistic violence, lots of sexual and rape innuendo, and some surprisingly salty language", and you feel the need to complain about how the bad guys like a particular swear word

It actually does sound really annoying. From what I've heard there's no end to it, you'll hear yourself being called a bitch every time you're within earshot of an enemy. I don't know why anyone would put up with that shit, let alone pay money for it.

 

[Oriebam]

You know you are desperate when a game contains "Torture, serial murder of innocent people, gleefully sadistic violence, lots of sexual and rape innuendo, and some surprisingly salty language", and you feel the need to complain about how the bad guys like a particular swear word

It actually does sound really annoying. From what I've heard there's no end to it, you'll hear yourself being called a bitch every time you're within earshot of an enemy. I don't know why anyone would put up with that shit, let alone pay money for it.

I fucking hated being called a bat every single fucking room and deathscreen in the first game. What the fuck were they thinking?

 

[Sacculina]

I fucking hated being called a bat every single fucking room and deathscreen in the first game. What the fuck were they thinking?

Uh-huh. Being called a bat (for dressing as a bat) is as insulting as being called a bitch (for being a woman), eh?

The sooner this thread gets moved to GD the better.

 

[Angthoron]

Makes me wonder why that person isn't railing against gangsta rap, I mean, aren't women in it always portrayed as prostitutes? The mind, it boggles, so many whats.

 

[racofer]

Because we all know it's going to suck as an RPG.

Skyrim is RPG?

Spells, swords, horseback ridding, Dragons (r) (c) (tm)...

 

[MetalCraze]

Ah - must be from the same opera where if a game has space in it - it's sci fi

 

[racofer]

I thought that was pretty obvious, Skyway.

 

[DraQ]

Because we all know it's not an RPG.

Fixed.

 

[Oriebam]

Yo skyway, remind me of why a game with sci-fi theme is supposed to be considered a fantasy game(like dragon age or the witcher) rather than a sci-fi lite/low sci-fi/whatever the genre is supposed to be called?

I fucking hated being called a bat every single fucking room and deathscreen in the first game. What the fuck were they thinking?

Uh-huh. Being called a bat (for dressing as a bat) is as insulting as being called a bitch (for being a woman), eh?

The sooner this thread gets moved to GD the better.

The point is he is prejudiced against certain animalsM) and you shouldn't be insulted by that

It's kind of like watching one of those semi-apologist movies* that are about racism and getting insulted by the fact that there are whites constantly calling a character a nigger

I mean, I don't get offended by the constant spamming of "imbecile" and "batshit insane" the first game does, nobody even thinks consciously about it for fucks sake, it also means nothing, why should other constant less-PC insults in the second be given attention

Of course you can argue that just for being politically incorrect(since any insult pertaining to that characteristic will be bad anyway, unless take the ultra goofy portal approach and replace "bitch" with "fat" "overweight" or whatever they say in cartoons) that shouldn't be in the game, but we're in the codex, we're supposed to bash that, are we not? Not to mention double standards and concluding the insults are in the game because the developers/people/industry hate women/want us to hate women, but the thing about political correctness overrides this.

*don't ask for any examples, just think of another common cliche instead

Also Jaesun why was this moved to GG?

 

[MetalCraze]

Yo skyway, remind me of why a game with sci-fi theme is supposed to be considered a fantasy game(like dragon age or the witcher) rather than a sci-fi lite/low sci-fi/whatever the genre is supposed to be called?

Because for science fiction to be science fiction it needs to have science in it.
And no magic.

Replace space in these so called "sci fi" games with Middle-Earth and shit won't change.

 

[Roguey]

You know you are desperate when a game contains "Torture, serial murder of innocent people, gleefully sadistic violence, lots of sexual and rape innuendo, and some surprisingly salty language", and you feel the need to complain about how the bad guys like a particular swear word

It actually does sound really annoying. From what I've heard there's no end to it, you'll hear yourself being called a bitch every time you're within earshot of an enemy. I don't know why anyone would put up with that shit, let alone pay money for it.

I'm a bitch, I'm a bitch, oh the bitch is back, stone cold sober as a matter of fact. I can bitch, I can bitch cause I'm better than you, it's the way that I move, the things that I do.

 

[DraQ]

Yo skyway, remind me of why a game with sci-fi theme is supposed to be considered a fantasy game(like dragon age or the witcher) rather than a sci-fi lite/low sci-fi/whatever the genre is supposed to be called?

You mean like any Star Wars game?

unless take the ultra goofy portal approach and replace "bitch" with "fat" "overweight" or whatever they say in cartoons

In Portal it worked because of the highly specific context.

but we're in the codex, we're supposed to bash that, are we not?

No, we're supposed to bash that because we're not a bunch of pinheaded morons and understand that imposing political correctness on games, novels and films automatically precludes them from portraying almost every historical, plausible or otherwise reasonably convincing setting ever.

We may strive for respecting people IRL (except not through PC, since it's just retarded, stifles freedom of speech and is a textbook example of harmful ideology before reality movement), but a utopia isn't viable setting for most kinds of fiction, including all kinds of fiction revolving around serious conflict.

 

[Sacculina]

I don't get offended by the constant spamming of "imbecile" and "batshit insane"

Do you actually belong to a group whose members are called "imbecile" and "batshit insane" for no reason other than your affiliation with that group? If you were, I believe "you would think consciously about it for fucks sake".

but we're in the codex, we're supposed to bash that, are we not?

At the Codex we bash derp of all kinds. Political correctness gone mad is be a perfectly bash-worthy target. So are unworthy responses to it.

 

[UserNamer]

I think the word bitch in batman asylum city is perfectly appropriate: the one who are using that word are savage criminal and their main role is getting their shit beaten the fuck out of them, it would be extra demeaning to demand they behave respectfully towards class A whores like catwoman and harley while they get smashed in every way it is possible to smash somebody using a wide array of martial arts moves.

In conclusion:
1)the use of the word bitch is completely appropriate and considering the miserable situation of the thugs who are using that word, berating them for their foul language is highly insensitive
2)If you get offended while playing a videogame, might I suggest you go outside and get raped? Oh and fuck you

 

[Oriebam]

@Sacculina
Assume there is a stealth game where you play as a obese protagonist and there's tons of bad guy dialogue calling you a fat fuck(a insult with ALMOST the same weight and potential meaning as bitch), and you're obese IRL, do you get offended by that? Would you consider that propaganda against fat people or hate speech? Would you be offended by (reasonably, as in not once every 10 seconds or so) constant repetition of the same word in a game? You know saying yes to this is unreasonable and that those were my points, so what's yours?

 

[hoopy]

I think the word bitch in batman asylum city is perfectly appropriate: the one who are using that word are savage criminal and their main role is getting their shit beaten the fuck out of them, it would be extra demeaning to demand they behave respectfully towards class A whores like catwoman and harley while they get smashed in every way it is possible to smash somebody using a wide array of martial arts moves.

In conclusion:
1)the use of the word bitch is completely appropriate and considering the miserable situation of the thugs who are using that word, berating them for their foul language is highly insensitive
2)If you get offended while playing a videogame, might I suggest you go outside and get raped? Oh and fuck you

Yeah, but how often do they use the word? It sounds to me like they say it every two seconds.

 

[Sacculina]

@Sacculina
Assume there is a stealth game where you play as a obese protagonist and there's tons of bad guy dialogue calling you a fat fuck(a insult with ALMOST the same weight and potential meaning as bitch), and you're obese IRL, do you get offended by that? Would you consider that propaganda against fat people or hate speech? Would you be offended by (reasonably, as in not once every 10 seconds or so) constant repetition of the same word in a game? You know saying yes to this is unreasonable and that those were my points, so what's yours?

Direct me to a scholarly account of human civilization showing that obese people have been regarded as inherently inferior and unable to rise above that for pretty much the entire length of history.

Edit: According to the site I linked, a good guy says 'bitch' too.

 

[sgc_meltdown]

wait I thought bitch had been appropriated and turned into a contextual symbol of strong independent feminine empowerment much like the term motherfucker has for men

but hrrm yes repetition of the term is a problem entertainment wise. I'm sure the codex can think of more character specific yet gender neutral taunt phrases to mix it up and diffuse the minefield of political tension

the alternative is to make all the thugs female but wait that would be complete femspolitation even if they all had drugged up men on collar chains or something

but then isn't this good stuff in a way that only villains and thugs here would use the term bitch, I'm sure all the smart ladies can tell it's not like we're dealing with role models here, they call you a bitch, you beat those cultural symbols of degenerate masculine oppression up and affirm your wombynhood for all little girls and fat gamers everywhere much like how when someone calls me a fag on 4chan I assert my manhood by brushing it off or taking on whatever argument they have and win another small victory for my homosexual brothers and sisters to boot instead of going "you c-called me a f-fag?! do you know the magnitude of institutionalised errors you're perpetuating on your fellow man here you whey-faced gutter varlet?! good people must know of this to the articlemobile! fume fume fume"

much like how a Reaper calls you an insect and you SHOOT IT IN THE DAMN FACE BECAUSE YOU ARE HUMAN AND HUMAN DON'T TAKE BULLSHIT and that's why mass effect isn't a gloomy subversive commentary on the frail mortality of human beings and their plight in an uncaring universe and arkham city isn't a subversive commentary on why women are actually bitches

perhaps there will be similar challenges with a midnighter beat em up, but then again if they can surmount the wildstorm version of "you are already dead" and batman can actually die in his own videogames the limits are our own politically inclusive imaginations

 

[Oriebam]

@Sacculina
Assume there is a stealth game where you play as a obese protagonist and there's tons of bad guy dialogue calling you a fat fuck(a insult with ALMOST the same weight and potential meaning as bitch), and you're obese IRL, do you get offended by that? Would you consider that propaganda against fat people or hate speech? Would you be offended by (reasonably, as in not once every 10 seconds or so) constant repetition of the same word in a game? You know saying yes to this is unreasonable and that those were my points, so what's yours?

Direct me to a scholarly account of human civilization showing that obese people have been regarded as inherently inferior and unable to rise above that for pretty much the entire length of history.

You haven't answered my question

and if yes tell why

Edit: According to the site I linked, a good guy says 'bitch' too.

that's comic-videogame lore, I dunno about that...How do I summoned Vaarna_Aarne

wait I thought bitch had been appropriated and turned into a contextual symbol of strong independent feminine empowerment much like the term motherfucker has for men

but hrrm yes repetition of the term is a problem entertainment wise. I'm sure the codex can think of more character specific yet gender neutral taunt phrases to mix it up and diffuse the minefield of political tension

the alternative is to make all the thugs female but wait that would be complete femspolitation even if they all had drugged up men on collar chains or something

but then isn't this good stuff in a way that only villains and thugs here would use the term bitch, I'm sure all the smart ladies can tell it's not like we're dealing with role models here, they call you a bitch, you beat those cultural symbols of degenerate masculine oppression up and affirm your wombynhood for all little girls and fat gamers everywhere much like how when someone calls me a fag on 4chan I assert my manhood by brushing it off and winning another small victory for my homosexual brothers and sisters to boot instead of going "you c-called me a f-fag?! do you know the magnitude of institutionalised errors you're perpetuating on your fellow man here you whey-faced gutter varlet?! good people must know of this!"

much like how a Reaper calls you an insect and you SHOOT IT IN THE DAMN FACE BECAUSE YOU ARE HUMAN AND HUMAN DON'T TAKE BULLSHIT and that's why mass effect isn't a subversive commentary on the frail mortality of human beings and their plight in an uncaring universe and arkham city isn't a subversive commentary on why women are actually bitches

perhaps there will be similar challenges with a midnighter beat em up, but then again if they can surmount the wildstorm version of "you are already dead" and batman can actually die in his own videogames the limits are our own politically inclusive imaginations

I don't understand any of your potato speech, but that last part of your post was p. funny

 

[sgc_meltdown]

I don't understand any of your potato speech

bro a true feminist intellectual would have understood the paltry und obvious insights in my inherently biased masculine post

also I'm thinking there will be 3 buttons in midnighter - the winnering

A - summon Apollo
B - Win
C - Jump

you know what the fuckers are going to disable his chip at the beginning of the game anyway

 

[hoopy]

wait I thought bitch had been appropriated and turned into a contextual symbol of strong independent feminine empowerment much like the term motherfucker has for men

No, that was yesterday. Today it's a demeaning word. Tomorrow it may be symbol of empowerment again. For more information, please consult your local feminist political officer.

Meanwhile in the Border House:

And there is this sort of bogeyman, whenever someone talks about romance in the games, including same-sex romance, and the bogeyman they talk about is Dragon Age 2, where all of the romanceable characters were available to both genders. And to me, that should be the standard going forward. Like, I don’t see any reason to do anything but that ever again. [...] They’re all–they’re available to both genders, and, yeah, that should definitely be the standard going forward.

And I wonder if a lot of good can come from, let’s say, this very, this market that’s saturated with, let’s say, people who have expectations about heterosexuality. And lots of male gamers who tend to be very forward about their heterosexuality. If there were games that just allowed you, without judgement, to just try out what is it like to be another sexuality or another identity, or to have a romance of a particular situation.

Can you see where this is going?

 

[sgc_meltdown]

Can you see where this is going?

Shit I know it's going to be horrible if players can make Midnighter romance a woman in his game

 

[Sacculina]

@Sacculina
Assume there is a stealth game where you play as a obese protagonist and there's tons of bad guy dialogue calling you a fat fuck(a insult with ALMOST the same weight and potential meaning as bitch), and you're obese IRL, do you get offended by that? Would you consider that propaganda against fat people or hate speech? Would you be offended by (reasonably, as in not once every 10 seconds or so) constant repetition of the same word in a game? You know saying yes to this is unreasonable and that those were my points, so what's yours?

Direct me to a scholarly account of human civilization showing that obese people have been regarded as inherently inferior and unable to rise above that for pretty much the entire length of history.

You haven't answered my question

and if yes tell why

You haven't been here at the Codex as long as I have, but I have trouble believing that you don't understand what an actual insult is. If you honestly think that being called a 'bat' or 'fat' is comparable to 'bitch', you're either priviledged or thick (or perhaps both). But I'll help you out.

'Bat' - insult based on silly costume
'Fat' - insult based on appearance and unattractiveness
'Fag' - insult based on receptient's supposed homosexual behaviour
'Bitch' - insult based on the premise that the recepient is one or both of the following: 1. a woman 2. a person in sexual submission

I think that removing the word 'bitch' for political correctness alone is stupid on many levels. But if anything, the derpy reaction to an already derpy article only validates the article's message.

And now you've gone and made me defend the Border House. I hope you're proud of yourself.

 

[Excommunicator]

What a ridiculous discussion. Take your social agendas back to school

All that matters is whether or not it fits the context, and having not even laid eyes on a screenshot of the game (although in knowing what "Batman" and "Arkham City" are) I can confidently say that this is probably a very good representation of the vocabulary and reactivity of criminals and psychos whether for a comic book or real world context.

Anyway it shouldn't offend you unless you've taken ownership of the word, and you can't do that unless you believe yourself to be a bitch, in which case the AI would be quite correct huh