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CD Projekt's CYBERPUNK 2077 Release Thread - Concerned For The Consoles

Discussion in 'CD Projekt Red' started by Sam Ecorners, Dec 10, 2020.

  1. RobotSquirrel Learned

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    I stopped watching when he found himself in game at that point it was obvious what was going on. Its a very bad example and he kept deflecting everytime a bug happened.
     
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  2. Delterius Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    hey guys, it turns out

    cdpr promised refunds before asking microsoft and sony about it

    lmao
     
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  3. J_C One Bit Studio Patron Developer Sad Loser

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    Sony announced the refunds themselves, so I doubt CDPR didn't ask them. As for Microsoft, I dunno.
     
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  4. Belegarsson Think about hairy dwarfs all the time ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Patron

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    Reading the Trauma Team part reminded me of cop response in Mafia 3. Basically in that game, if you do crime in poor neighborhoods full of POC then it'd take them longer to response. This can be applied directly to this game, it actually makes sense if Trauma Team doesn't pull up to an aftermath of gangsters shooting each other in bumfuck nowhere because they can't afford TT Premium, so this system on paper is already easier to implement than in GTA, where ambulance always appears no matter who the victim is.
     
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  5. TheHeroOfTime Arcane

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    One thing that catched my eye back in the teaser trailer of Cyberpunk 2077 was the police. For me the trailer hinted that the setting of the game could potentially be a cyberpunk city heavily watched over by the police (And the corpos through them). Even at the start of the game, when you are in the car with Jackie there's a moment where the special elite police MAX-TAC does appear:

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    But they never do later in the game in the same fashion when you are free-roaming the city. You expected them to be more present, appearing following some scum ncps in random events or even after you for killing a lot of civilians and stuff. But they barely do (I think they chase you when you reach maximum level of wanted, but I'm not sure). It's very dissapointing in that regard.
     
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  6. mondblut Arcane

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    Imagine a clone being made of you. Is he you? He thinks he is, but you, I doubt so. Now imagine a clone being made of you, then you being killed immediately afterwards. Do you keep living in that clone? He thinks he does, but you - you are dead, replaced by an imposter.

    For a third person, there is no difference between the original and the clone, and neither it is for the clone, so it's all fine. But I wouldn't wish to be the one who is being cloned.
     
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  7. AwesomeButton Personally falsified the US election results Patron

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  8. Delterius Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    someone doesn't know the magical powers of sony's return policy rip J_C bro
     
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  9. Manjuice Nutella Arcane

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    Was it? I thought it's the only real happy "and they lived happily ever after" ending, implying that Aldecaldos' contacts outside of California will fix his reconfigured DNA, giving him a longer lifespan. The only "bitter" thing for me was the burden of leadership for Panam, having to constantly skip dates lmao
     
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  10. msxyz Augur

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  11. KVVRR Learned

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    If we go by what Alt says engrams aren't all that sophisticated when compared to AIs in the cyberspace. She can read Jhonny so well she doesn't even need to really talk to him to know what he's going to say.
    I THINK that it's something like engrams = program emulating the human mind, while AIs = actual artificial intelligence. Not necessarily human, though both have a need to survive.
    So while engrams are "human" they're really just a program running on a piece of tech. True AI can move freely through cyberspace, become something more from what we see from the taxi one and Alt. I think?

    is there a place that explains the tech of this setting? I'm not sure I've understood it all very well, I just know that it looked cool. There are some neat ideas too, like the blackwall.
     
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  12. KVVRR Learned

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    There's no way to fix V by that point - everyone has told him so, from Vic, to the people who actually made the tech, to superpowerful AI's. It might have been the stupid pink mostache I gave him at the start of the game obscuring his face but my V looked more contemplative than happy on that last scene with her.
    [​IMG] I took it as him just accepting his fate and trying to be happy with the people he cared about instead of helplessly trying to fight it. So I guess in that sense yeah, it is the true happy ending.
     
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  13. Gerrard Arcane

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    >wet even under the overhang
    Stalker Clear Sky did it better 12 years ago.

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    Even better question, who the fuck cares about current Top Gear?
     
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  14. ChildInTime Learned

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    I think by that point
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    V accepts he/she will die, just like in the rob the space casino and leave Arasaka space station endings. Only question is how and on whose terms i.e. - die while pulling off the biggest heist in history, or live his/her last days on the road with a newfound family.
     
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  15. KVVRR Learned

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    yup, those are also my thoughts, should've put them in there as well from the start.
     
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  16. Riddler Magister Patron

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    What happens when you go to sleep? Do the current instantiation of you die just because you go lose consciousness?

    If you are put under anesthesia, get cloned down to the the subatomic level and then only the clone wakes up, what then?
     
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  17. ChildInTime Learned

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    The only two
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    "happy" endings by my count are leaving with nomads like you said, and giving Johnny Vs body after storming Arasaka tower on your own, especially the latter - Rogue or Aldecaldos don't die, V gets a sort of immortality, even if it's only digital, Johnny gets to actually fix his mistakes from the previous life.
     
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  18. Reinhardt Arcane

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    Fuck, compared to this JoJo's villains of the week are peak of straight masculinity. And these people unironically think they are monocled because they don't play animu games.
     
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  19. fantadomat Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck Edgy

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    Ahhhh wasting your time mate. At this point most normal people had their fun and left the thread,now it is filled with butthurt fanboys.
     
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  20. Manjuice Nutella Arcane

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    Well, in my ending he was cuddling with his waifu and they both had a hint of a smile and peace in their eyes, hopeful for what awaits them ahead. Still, even if it won't work, better to die (with a family) as yourself in your body and with your brain, than, well, not.
     
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  21. mondblut Arcane

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  22. ChildInTime Learned

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    Apparently in Cyberpunk the engrams are actually "souls", the real deal, like cortical stacks in Altered Carbon, so it's not a conciousness problem. in the
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    ending where Alt uses Soulkiller on you, V doesn't even know that she is already an engram until Johnny tells her. You can actually see when an Engram is made from a dead person who has no "soul" - Jackie was copied by Arasaka after he died, and his engram is just stuck on a loop of repeating phrases.
     
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  23. J_C One Bit Studio Patron Developer Sad Loser

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    I didn't know that. I just read a newspiece 2 days ago which was about Sony offering refunds. But it seems it was Fake News.
     
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  24. mondblut Arcane

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    A clone wouldn't know he's a clone, living the original's life as usual. Maybe my original iteration is screaming in its frozen hell while I am typing this. I cannot know until this iteration is replaced with another.
     
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  25. Hóngwèibīng Arcane Vatnik

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    Doesn't really prove that the engram isn't a copy of the original consciousness though. The fact that an engram made from a dead person is less sophisticated than one made from a living person can be explained by the fact that in the former case there's less data to properly transfer from the individual to the engram.

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    On that note, I'm pretty sure that Saburo's engram was made before Yorinobu killed him ergo it isn't the real Saburo taking over Yorinobu's body in the Arasaka ending. This also serves to explain why the engram is more articulate than Jackie's when V and later on Arasaka's board of directors interacts with it since it was made from a living Saburo.
     
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