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CD Projekt's CYBERPUNK 2077 Release Thread - Concerned For The Consoles

Discussion in 'CD Projekt Red' started by Sam Ecorners, Dec 10, 2020.

  1. Bliblablubb Arcane

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    It still baffles me that they didn't implement a way to change your looks ingame, hair and makeup at least. They have so few options to begin with in the char gen and didn't even bother making different clothing morphs for titsize after all.

    Ruins the immersion as well.
    Corpo background has a strikt dresscode, how does the game explain V running around with a pink 'fro at work?
    Since they insisted of making the cut content into a montage, they could even make V change into a more punk look by herself to represent her new life (and players being able to revert back). That requires no big effort in coding ffs.
    But like this it feels like the whole char gen was just an afterthought marketing gag.
    Like many other things.
    Sad.
     
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  2. ekrolo2 Learned

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    Not a fucking chance.
     
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  3. Danikas Arcane

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    That's the car im driving in those fps videos :lol:
     
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  4. Child of Malkav Arbiter

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    Finally finished this overrated piece of shit. Near the finale I just rushed the main story hoping to end already. I also rushed a little too fast because my only options at the end were to side with Arasaka or kill myself. Saved beforehand, sided with the Arasaka, didn't like it, reloaded, killed myself.
    Then the credits song "you lost everything" rolls in. Yeah, fuck you very much.
    Life paths didn't matter for shit despite me choosing them almost every time they popped up in dialogue.
    Playing as a non combat build is the biggest mistake one can make. This is alleviated somewhat if you focus on the weaknesses of your opponent or boss and having weapons that deal various elemental damage. This game encourages combat at all costs. You absolutely must spec into guns or melee weapons and after that go with anything else. And why the hell are blades and blunt weapons in different categories? Whatever. The design that permeates this game is the same as in Witcher 3. Pure shit. These people didn't play many games in their lives.
    CDPR's strength lies clearly in the story, writing and quest intertwining and world building. The map (especially the area outside the city, the Badlands I think it's called) is very nice, very beautiful. Driving through there at max speed on a bike or a car is something else.
    Body awareness can go die. It fucks up the movement of the character, the responsiveness massively. And besides, your boobs aren't big enough to see them when looking down so it's even more pointless.
    Stealth is fucked and the bugs associated with it and it's perks, fuck it even more. Once you get used to it though, it becomes a bit better, playable, useful even. But, rarely.
    AI doesn't exist in this game, as this has already been covered and documented. Cops spawn behind you or all around you resulting in a very fast and fatal gangbang.
    Perks are bad. Really bad. 80 - 90% of them are multiple ranks with percentage increases to damage or accuracy or whatever. Again, combat focused. They even have descriptions that are almost identical to those you find in MMOs (like WoW), duration, stacks, the same language. There's one that increases the crit chance after you enter stealth for like 7 seconds, just an example. I really feel they wanted to add mutiplayer and when they realized they're out of time (and competence) they just made these perks universal for both SP and MP. There are a few that serve to unlock new abilities, crafting recipes or are simply required to get to another perk.
    Looting system is shit. You find the same weapons but with a different color or rarity. There are also only a few weapons. Pistols, rifles, shotguns etc. of each type (power, tech, smart). And they just keep repeating. The melee weapons come into lethal or non lethal variety, with not that many on either side. You can get a better picture of this if you look in the crafting menu.
    Collecting and dismantling everything gets tedious fast. You also cannot craft in bulk. You want to craft 50 medkits or whatever they're called or ammo or at other consumable? Yeah, you better press and hold (not just press, because why would it be?) that button 50 times.
    Each attribute point increases whatever bonus it governs by a phenomenal 0.5% or in the case of melee damage, by 1.5%. Yeah, heavy stuff here. The MMO design can be felt throughout the game.
    Character customization is pretty shit. Recently found that what determines your gender and the NPC response to you is the voice that you choose, between male or female. Yeah, the voice decides what's what, who's what and what's up.
    Damage calculation is fucked as people can make crit builds and score 1 million damage regularly, or is inconsistent over long distances.
    Generally when you want to get into a location, you have a few options, either the front door, or a backdoor that requires an attribute check and with the double jump that you get it opens up a bit more.
    Quick hacks are few and only some are useful. Ping is very good, it's the see through wall stuff, cripple movement is good for bosses, reboot optics is good for stealth, cyberpsychosis is very goodin general as it makes enemies attack their allies, and there are more very situational ones. I thought request backup is the equivalent of WD2's system of calling a rival gang to battle their enemies but no, it's the opposite.
    And I can go on but I'm tired now.
    I restarted the game as nomad (played a corpo before) and I tried killing the sheriff by running him over and the car just goes through him and he starts investigating the disturbance, as if he was distracted. I don't even know why I tried, I don't know what I expected anymore but yeah. Also, the boob slider is pure decline. Saints Row 3 and 4 did it justice.
    I didn't even mention the millions of bugs, the internet does it better.
    Going to play it a bit, try a combat build, experiment with some stuff, and finally uninstall this thing.
    And about that Vavra guy (that his name?), sad to see another one biting the dust. Seeing him call this game a masterpiece gave me the best outburst of laughter I had in years.
    And what the hell is going on with this thread? What's up with all the shills around here lately? CDPR must be paying you hard since they made their investment back in one day. Paychecks galore. You know, I'm starting to think that luj is right. You're all shills. Fucking reddit outcasts that came here of all places.
    Couldn't you go to Resetera? It's similar to Reddit. It even starts with your favorite word "Re" which you might recognize as being your kind's mating sound.
     
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  5. Turjan Arcane

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    Yes. As I said, it drives okay as long as the road is straight.
    Edit: I should probably go and look what the car I meant is actually called next time I have time to play. It seemed to be an electric one.
     
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  6. Gerrard Arcane

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    The fact that you think FH has good physics is a testament to how dumb you are.

    E:


    Behold realistic physics according to Forza fans.
     
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  7. Bliblablubb Arcane

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    I accidently discovered that major NPCs dying over the course of the game get a virtual tombstone in that memorial hall.
    Gonna be very overcrowded by the end lf the game.
    :negative:
     
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  8. AwesomeButton Personally falsified the US election results Patron

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    No, that's not my case. The stealth starts out as way too easy for the simple reason that playing without the minimap is near-impossible whereas playing with the minimap shows you the facing of enemies. The inaudible footsteps while crouched would have been nice as an upgrade, like in Deus Ex, but instead you get it for free. The wall hack was in Deus Ex too, but was super expensive on your energy and lasted for a short time.

    A what now?
    https://www.pcgamer.com/after-eight-years-of-development-cyberpunk-2077-made-a-profit-in-one-day/

    Or be like me and turn off all antialiasing from nvidia control panel. Playing on 1080p upscaled to 1440p the game is just blurry enough :D

    That supposedly exists but it's halfway done and will be patched in. The real immersion-breaker is not having any reactivity from NPCs (and I don't mean random blurbs on the street) to the way you are dressed and whether it fits the situation.
     
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  9. orcinator Liturgist

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    It makes me appreciate all those mid 00's devs who could crank out a working GTA clone in their sleep while the horde of slavs struggles with basic shit like car AI.
     
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  10. Tyrr Educated

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    Remember this official slide?
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    The RPG mechanics in Cyberpunk 2077 aren't bad, they're just "advanced".
     
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  11. Maxie Arcane

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    https://www.powerpyx.com/cyberpunk-2077-story-choices-guide/

     
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  12. Gerrard Arcane

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    lol no
    On Steam alone there were at least several hundred K refund requests
    https://store.steampowered.com/stats/support
    The "Refund requests' value was over 200K for several days since launch.

    And Sony Japan made a support form just for Cyberpunk refunds.
     
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  13. Robber Baron Learned

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    So does it have less C&C than the new Black Ops?
     
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  14. ekrolo2 Learned

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    If even half of this is true then that's a mega decline from W3.
     
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  15. moon knight Matt7895's alt

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    I can't believe this is the same studio who made The Witcher 2
     
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  16. simtam Novice

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    Even in the Maelstrom mission right away, the choices are not entirely in the dialogue options. That said, I would enjoy more dialogue options, even if they wouldn't be C&C. The one time I played CP2020 I recall there was a Media class, why can't I role-play The Adventures of Young Spider Jerusalem? VA in Polish localization seem skilled enough.

    The 4/10 review guy? I don't sense much political bias there, he seems more like a "my vision of cyberpunk is the most mine" kind of guy. Props for Tyler Durdeen reference (even if not about inserting dick frames).
     
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  17. thesheeep Arcane Patron

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    That's still not many compared to how many purchases there were.
    Plus on Steam it's simply impossible to tell how many just bought the game, did some review bombing cause amgery bois and then refunded...

    Huh?
    https://archive.is/GnURk

    I guess it's not impossible, but not exactly easy, either.
     
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  18. Decado Prestigious Gentleman Old time handsome face wrecker Patron

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    Update: haven't touched this game since Sunday. I have no plan to. Commencing another playthrough of Bloodborne. Really excited for Elite Odyssey and Solasta.
     
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  19. Bliblablubb Arcane

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    The only real C&C I came across was "kill NPC yes/no", with not killing him results in him disappearing from the game or getting a mission later. To kill him. Ooookay. :hahano:

    Well, and pissing off Judy without knowing it apparently. Taking a reward after her mission results in her not letting V at her...V. Because she did it for moneys and not for her? V doesn't even get the option to explain herself.
    Lol wymyn. Quality writing.
     
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  20. Grampy_Bone Arcane

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    It's true CDPR did not make as detailed a city-driving open world game as Rockstar has.

    But come on. Fucking GTA missions are scripted as fuck. Never catch the guy you're chasing until he's scripted to crash, then watch a cutscene. So much gameplay consists of listening to conversations in cars/on horseback. Popamole corridor shooting with mandatory auto-aim. Just lock-on, tap the head, repeat forever.
     
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  21. AwesomeButton Personally falsified the US election results Patron

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    BTW guys, bonuses from cloth mods don't stack. I have a mask and pants with the same mod - Bully (+30% crit damage), and when I put on both and check the stats, the crit damage is shown to be the same. That is unless there is a UI bug, which is not impossible, considering the rest of the damage stats don't show your currently equipped weapon stats and just stay at 0.
     
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  22. Bliblablubb Arcane

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    Btw, are there no female voice actors of japanese descent in the US? Pretty much every female "japanese" NPC in this game sounds like Michelle Yeoh. They also look chinese actually.
    The conversation between Tanaka and the jap fixer was hillarious. While he sounded like a proper samurai, she sounded like mama-san trying to sell him some "special massages". :hahano:
     
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  23. Cpt. Dallas Educated

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    True. And for some point they are almost all timed.

    Handwave and pretend that CDPR had ditched all the origin stories and PC customization: one (male only) protagonist with one backstory (i.e. Geralt or TNO). No gorrillion outfits and Borderlands style weapons and crafting. Cut the perk tree in half. One vehicle, unless you steal one. All these wasted resources go into writing and C&C.

    The world would shit an even bigger brick and CDPR would be raked over the coals. The mainstream expectations from room temp IQ AAA buyers are that low. We're lucky they didn't throw in base building or Battle Royale mode. Or zombies/nazis.

    The game is OK for what it is: mainstream fast food dreck. I'll finish it, just like I'll get to the bottom of that supersize bag of pork rinds when I start.
     
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  24. Fedora Master Arcane Patron

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    EVEN THE ARCADE MACHINES ARE BUGGED
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  25. Alfgart Augur Patron

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    Divinity: Original Sin 2
    I'm about 25 hours in, and having fun. Not as great as it was hyped to be, but it's a good game nonetheless. There is a Black Metal radio that plays some real Black Metal, that's a whole +1 for me.
    Now someone more versed in drama and all that stuff, please explain to me, why does the reddit echo chamber and all the dangerhair game journalism hate CD Projekt so much? Since release I have seen countless negative articles, bitching about the most stupid and mundane things
     
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